FDA So where is the outcry from the vendors?

[Katya]

And speaking of the FDA--here we go!

CASAA: First Call to Action for FDA Proposed Regulations - Consumer Request for an Extension of Comment Period

 

[tombaker]

I just called the FDA 'feedback/questions' number and got "Pat". I asked him: "With regards to the tobacco deeming doc...." Pat:"Ah yes..." ..."how many comments can an individual submit" He said: "As many as you want. You have a long time to comment and you could submit one a day, if you want. But as many as you want."

You are my 4th confirmation of this as fact. Its NOT one comment per entity. Its also, not a vote tally, its an open comment period.
20,000 comments that are the same, count as ONE. A comment made by a single person that is different that 20K that are the same, provided both are meaningful, creates 2 issues that FDA must remark on.

Now if you submit the same comment every day, over and over, its just a waste time because its still one comment and aggregated with all the similar comments.

 

[skoony]

Nonsense. Children have nothing to do with their willful ignorance. If anything, most of the retail locations are just fearful of mentioning that their products are under FDA scrutiny which doesn't help sales. That and I suspect the staff on duty at any given time is just clueless about all of this and aren't equipped to handle questions so they simply don't bring it up. I can understand this behavior at their retail locations but not providing a few helpful web links for all the traffic that hits their site is just inexcusable. (Some do now and it's getting better).

just saying,
even websites have a physical location.
get one local ANTZ who knows someone in the local government mad and before you know it
you have the health inspector,fire inspector,and building code inspector all up in your
business.you better have all your licenses up to date.compliance checks?some local
governments contract with talent agencies who specialize in under age kids who look
way over 21.i could go on.when in liberal lakes do as the liberal lakions do.

regards
mike

 

[Kent C]

You are my 4th confirmation of this as fact. Its NOT one comment per entity. Its also, not a vote tally, its an open comment period.
20,000 comments that are the same, count as ONE. A comment made by a single person that is different that 20K that are the same, provided both are meaningful, creates 2 issues that FDA must remark on.

Now if you submit the same comment every day, over and over, its just a waste time because its still one comment and aggregated with all the similar comments.

Which addresses what I said in a subsequent post:

There is a comment on a link in the post to one of the FDA docs that says this:

"A single, well-supported comment may carry more weight than a thousand form letters."

IOW, in bold... they are somehow?? able to tell the difference! And they take this into consideration.

Rather than a 'form letter' which you edit to "make it your own" - some guidelines, if known, should be listed as to what not to included in your comments. One of Elaine's comments was a good example. Someone commented (paraphrasing) "You don't have the authority to regulate nicotine." Well, obviously they do. I could imagine a 'well-supported' comment along those lines, but that had no support at all. I'm more for having people say what they think, it comes off more honest and it supports the concept and the reasons for the concept of free speech.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

Clark from Nicoticket recently took a few jabs at Harkin..

And his accompanying attachments are perfect...

https://www.facebook.com/tomharkin

 

[Katya]

What to do about those apathetic vendors (thanks DC!):

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eople-do-something-positive.html#post13176866

 

[Roger_Lafayette]

From a mass e-mail sent by Aqua Vapor (I assume this is okay, under the forum rules, since it looks like it was sent to all customers):

Please take the time to read the entire contents of this message as it has valuable information that will help you protect your right to vape and obtain the variety of products you use at affordable prices. The below information is being shared with you directly from the CASAA.org (The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association) announcement they sent out today, May 21st 2014.

The word "CASAA" contains a link to CTA #2.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

From a mass e-mail sent by Aqua Vapor (I assume this is okay, under the forum rules, since it looks like it was sent to all customers):



The word "CASAA" contains a link to CTA #2.

Looks like some of them are finally coming around...