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If someone is going to suggest a small battery model because that is what they use 90% of the time and never suggest or downplay the suggestion of a 5 volt or variable volt model, then that person should also explain every time that they don't like throat hit, have only used a couple of models and have never used models that provide warmer vapor and more consistency.

That way the OP has an accurate reference point. A small battery model may be all the new person needs. But if one has never used a better battery model such as a good 5 volt or variable volt model, I find it difficult for them to understand why so many vapers use them and prefer them.

I can't recommend a 5 volt or variable volt because I've never used one. I think it's helpful when you and a few other people post and recommend one and actually go through the trouble to explain them like you do.

Many people that recommend mods don't do that. They just post 'try a BGED' it's the best one out there. No link, no explanation- nothing. I've been vaping awhile and I still don't understand what they're talking about much less who sells them and what they do.
 

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No more recharging batteries constantly, easy to use, affordable, will accept a bunch of goodies that you can purchase to try and find the most enjoyable experience.

Would you rather have to worry about batteries going dead all the time or have one last you almost all day? Most people want something that is worry free. The ego fits the bill and is a very good PV.
 

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I started with kr808d's and still hane them as a back up but I discovered I'm one of those "big throat hit" fans. I went with the Riva 1100 as my first big bat but quickly fell in love with a bottomfeeder and once I bought external batts I thought I might as well standardise so I traded the Riva for a Chuck (like it a lot) and caught a couple of epowers on sale and I'm very happy with my little 18650 arsenal, 3.7 with LR is OK for me most of the time but I do break into the cr123 batts for a little 6v hit now and again. Next step is vv because 3.7 is a little cool and 6 is a little hot.
All in all I'd have prob been better off just buying a provari to start with!!!
 

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I get TH and actually get annoyed with people who dismiss all slim ecigs. KR808D-1 is a 3.7v device, more voltage than Ego. With a 2.5ohm carto like Vapor4Life WOW cartos, the carto can easily get too hot for the lips. Some 24mg vapers cannot vape Vapor4Life a 24mg WOW carto with V4L WOW liquid on a KR808D-1. How can you say it has no TH?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html

Re 5v - too limiting for a newb. Isn't 5v too much voltage for a lot of the things they might want to try? I think newbs should be able to try a lot of different cartos and attys and tanks to see what they like. I recommend VV including 5v as a top option for a newb.
 
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So for people that started out with a smaller model, how long did it take you to step up to a larger format model?

As I stated in a previous post, I am in Iraq so having a larger model would make less sense for me at this time. I am still need time to toy with my G6 to see if its going to be enough or decide whether or not I should upgrade when I get home.
 

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So for people that started out with a smaller model, how long did it take you to step up to a larger format model?

As I stated in a previous post, I am in Iraq so having a larger model would make less sense for me at this time. I am still need time to toy with my G6 to see if its going to be enough or decide whether or not I should upgrade when I get home.

Maybe you'll never have to. Maybe you'll like the G6 and it'll be perfect for you. It might satisfy you. You can always pick up something bigger when you get home for longer batteries. Box mods or the ego are pretty inexpensive. Some people need 'more' and with an ego you can use Low resistance carts or attys to give them what they need. Some need more than that.

Hopefully you'll be completely happy with your kit. But if your anything like the rest of us, we never stop buying! It's our new addiction!
 

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I think I could probably easily use something smaller now that I've been vaping and my 'real' cig addiction is gone. I do have a 510 mini and use it when I go out. Some people go bigger because they just enjoy the vape they get with bigger pvs or mods and the ease of use- less filling and less charging.

I recommend an ego to new people starting because it seems to help people that have problems quitting or long time smokers make the transition from smoking to vaping.
 

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I get TH and actually get annoyed with people who dismiss all slim ecigs. KR808D-1 is a 3.7v device, more voltage than Ego. With a 2.5ohm carto like Vapor4Life WOW cartos, the carto can easily get too hot for the lips. Some 24mg vapers cannot vape Vapor4Life a 24mg WOW carto with V4L WOW liquid on a KR808D-1. How can you say it has no TH?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html

Oh! I much prefered the 808's TH to a 510 slim but that was my problem, the majority of supplyers carry every possible combo of 510 atty or carto you could want but are really limited in 808 selection. Since I didn't care if it looked like a analog it was just more convenient to move to a bigger 510 than try to find my "sweet spot" with the 808's. I know it's possible to get what you want out of the 808's it's just easyer to get there with a big batt 510 due to availability.

Luv ya Dormouse (Not Hairball) OH crap I luv Hairball too!!!.....uhhhh Luv everybody!! Not trying to diss your 808's Hun!
 
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I have seen it take as little as one day. For me it was 6 months. Those new 3.7v Riva 510's at Liberty-Flights.com and the under $30 price made it a no-brainer. I was about to drop my nicotine another level and thought I might like to vape LR sometimes for more heat. Plus at 3.7v, it give more oomph to my standard res 510 cartos and with an adapter is a same-voltage big battery for my KR8 cartos. I also got a couple of little 3.7v mod boxes (only reason I got 2 was color).
 

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I can't recommend a 5 volt or variable volt because I've never used one. I think it's helpful when you and a few other people post and recommend one and actually go through the trouble to explain them like you do.

Many people that recommend mods don't do that. They just post 'try a BGED' it's the best one out there. No link, no explanation- nothing. I've been vaping awhile and I still don't understand what they're talking about much less who sells them and what they do.

Much appreciated, swedishfish! A few people who post insistently to new ECF members have only used 3.7 volt or smaller battery models and seem to believe smaller battery models are the only option that should be considered. When you see a post that is 2 or 3 paragraphs long extolling the virtures of small battery models and then there is a perfunctory line that suggests you could also consider a "fat" battery model (fat not being a positive term for most people), that alone leaves the new person with the impression that small battery models are all they should consider.

You will rarely, if ever, see me responding to someone who states they must have their PV look like an analog or that they are a light smoker. I figure the people who like the small battery models are the best resource for helping that person even though I have used both of those models. When someone says they want good throat hit and less hassle and I see responses explaining the ends and outs of the small battery 510 or 808, I don't get that or see how it is helping.

Many times I explain that I am a heavy vaper who wants good battery life, consistency and good throat hit so the person can relate better to my suggestions in concert with their stated needs. Many times when I suggest the E-Power/Riva/eGo, I really believe the person would be better served with a good 5 volt or VV model because they are just much better in providing warm vapor and consistency. And I know this because I have used 15 different models over the last two and a half years of vaping. But if you do that, you will be criticized for suggesting a better battery model to a new person like it is some kind of vaping sin. I always find it amusing that some will say you shouldn't suggest a model like the 5 volt GLV2 because it is more complicated than say an 808. Let's see, with both models you charge the batteries, screw or drop them in, screw on a filled atomizer/cartomizer, push the button and vape.

I like to use the term "inhaled feel" of smoking because in my mind, for most people trying to transition to vaping, it better describes what they truely are looking for. After vaping on 15 models from 3.2 volt models to variable volt models, I have a good awareness of which models better simulate smoking. For some, an occassional inhale on a small battery model is all they need and there are plenty of models that provide that. I would like to see more of the frequent responders experience a wider range of models so they can provide a nice range of options to new people. If I have read it once, I have read it a thousand times that many wish they had gotten a better battery model initially and they would have saved money and reduced frustration.

The E-Power/eGo/Riva models are good beginner models and with the ability to use dual coil cartos are much closer to a 5 volt model. But they still can't come close to the battery life, throat hit, consistency and flexibility of the better variable volt models that have regulated boost circuit technology, plain and simple.
 
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I have seen it take as little as one day. For me it was 6 months. Those new 3.7v Riva 510's at Liberty-Flights.com and the under $30 price made it a no-brainer. I was about to drop my nicotine another level and thought I might like to vape LR sometimes for more heat. Plus at 3.7v, it give more oomph to my standard res 510 cartos and with an adapter is a same-voltage big battery for my KR8 cartos. I also got a couple of little 3.7v mod boxes (only reason I got 2 was color).



I think that's the perfect reason to have two!
 

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After 2 days of vaping and not smoking, so far so good. No clue if I am going to get the twitch for a smoke or not, but I guess I will cross that bridge when I get to it and take it one day at a time. So, I will stick with what I have and get something with a little more power if I start feeling like I need it. Its certainly something that, after reading everything, I am going to start considering for the upcoming future. Even if I dish out more money for another model next week or several months from now, its still less than the $225 a month I was spending on analogs.

You guys have been a great help none the less!!!!
 

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Maybe you'll never have to. Maybe you'll like the G6 and it'll be perfect for you. It might satisfy you. You can always pick up something bigger when you get home for longer batteries. Box mods or the ego are pretty inexpensive. Some people need 'more' and with an ego you can use Low resistance carts or attys to give them what they need. Some need more than that.

Hopefully you'll be completely happy with your kit. But if your anything like the rest of us, we never stop buying! It's our new addiction!

So for people that started out with a smaller model, how long did it take you to step up to a larger format model?

As I stated in a previous post, I am in Iraq so having a larger model would make less sense for me at this time. I am still need time to toy with my G6 to see if its going to be enough or decide whether or not I should upgrade when I get home.

I agree with swedishfish's comments. It may be all you need. However, even in Irag, you must have the ability to recharge batteries no matter what size they are in order to vape. There are a number of better battery models that for a heavy vaper, provide 7 hours to 21 hours on a charge before the need to charge it again or put in another battery. They are also, in almost all cases, more consistent and provide warmer vapor and no more complicated to use. So if these characteristics are attractive to you, you might want to consider one of the models that fit this category.

And by the way, thank you for your service!!!
 

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I was one of those who HAD to start out with an analog size (got a 901 automatic) and an analog feel ... maybe because I'm a female and maybe because I'd smoked for 40+ yrs. I couldn't imagine how ridiculous it would look to be toting around a box or a huge magic marker sized PV! Then ... about 2 wks in ... after recharging every 1 - 1 1/2 hrs, I quickly changed my thinking; bought an eGo-T kit, and have been delighted with the amt. of vapor, TH, day long batt life and just down right satisfaction. To hell with wanting an analog size!

BUT, as you will read here over and over again, everyone is different ... everyone goes at their own pace. We are, indeed, all individualistic in this World of Vaping. What unites us is the pleasure of this new, far healthier life style.
 

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I did a couple of weeks worth of intense research thru this site before I bought...I was looking for the best INITIAL cost Vs Performance Vs learning curve...that research led me to the Riva501 from Liberty Flights...3.7v, 7hr batt life and all the options readily available to a 510 user...I was not disappointed...extremely happy in fact...I recommend them because for a new user, who is looking for the simplest, least expensive and closest approximation to the ciggie experience, they are really hard to top...I really like the e-power and roughstak but there is a slightly higher learning curve and cost associated with them...and of course, I haven't used one so I can't in good conscience recommend one to a complete newb...I just wish those that do...and nothing wrong with those recommendations would give an accurate account of costs...especially those that say get VV or Provari or Reo or ?????...that is my opinion and like many opinions, is worth exactly what was paid for it

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I did a couple of weeks worth of intense research thru this site before I bought...I was looking for the best INITIAL cost Vs Performance Vs learning curve...that research led me to the Riva501 from Liberty Flights...3.7v, 7hr batt life and all the options readily available to a 510 user...I was not disappointed...extremely happy in fact...I recommend them because for a new user, who is looking for the simplest, least expensive and closest approximation to the ciggie experience, they are really hard to top...I really like the e-power and roughstak but there is a slightly higher learning curve and cost associated with them...and of course, I haven't used one so I can't in good conscience recommend one to a complete newb...I just wish those that do...and nothing wrong with those recommendations would give an accurate account of costs...especially those that say get VV or Provari or Reo or ?????...that is my opinion and like many opinions, is worth exactly what was paid for it

madjack:2cool:

I think this is a good explanation of your experience and I like the research you did and went with a model that you didn't have to change in a couple of weeks.

Unless someone states that they only have "x" amount to spend (like $40), I usually don't even consider the cost of the initial investment, just the performance of the model. I do consider cost in the same "category" of PV, however. Unless they only smoked a pack every week or two, no matter what their initial cost is, they are going to save money vaping over smoking.
 
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I never picked up my KR808 after I got my ego... That was 18+ months ago...
I have bought several mods... since... I still use my egos once in a while... but never pick up my Kr808 for more than a drag before I put it down in disappointment. It's unsatisfying and the battery charge doesn't last long enough to make me feel secure taking out of the house.

Some folks continue to prefer the slimmer 510/kr808/901 models... but it would seem that the vast majority of people who make it past 3 months move into a larger, more powerful PV...

Many of us were advised to get an ego at the start... but didn't listen... thought we needed it to look and feel like a cig :)
...so when new folks ask... most of us don't want the new person to make the same mistake... and perhaps, not a mistake... but the numbers would seem to indicate that most move up...
 

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I was one of those who HAD to start out with an analog size (got a 901 automatic) and an analog feel ... maybe because I'm a female and maybe because I'd smoked for 40+ yrs. I couldn't imagine how ridiculous it would look to be toting around a box or a huge magic marker sized PV! Then ... about 2 wks in ... after recharging every 1 - 1 1/2 hrs, I quickly changed my thinking; bought an eGo-T kit, and have been delighted with the amt. of vapor, TH, day long batt life and just down right satisfaction. To hell with wanting an analog size!

BUT, as you will read here over and over again, everyone is different ... everyone goes at their own pace. We are, indeed, all individualistic in this World of Vaping. What unites us is the pleasure of this new, far healthier life style.

My mom was like that. But it really did get her into vaping. Who knows, she may have needed that to make the transition. I didn't know if I even wanted to vape so I wasn't going to spend a lot to start and the ego was much cheaper and got good reviews. I wouldn't spend a huge amount up front, just in case. Unless you have big bucks and then order one of each!
Seriously, if I didn't buy so much juice, I could have gotten a Reo.
 
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