Soft Cap Turbos for 808 have Arrived!!!!!

[Belletrist]

^^*nodnods* marty said it well. we're not talking about the prefilleds and liquid, but the batting itself.

basically, when you look into a carto you see white stuffing/polyfill, the white fabric air flow tube, and the atomizer wire running through the tube and then folding over and disappearing into the filler.

most of these cartos have white polyfill that reaches about the midway point in the cartomizer, leaving quite a bit of headspace under the cap. the white airflow tube sticks up above this maybe an eighth of an inch--anyhow, it's obviously projecting out of the polyfill.

i don't think the QC is too bad, actually, i haven't noticed too many where this isn't the case, but i have seen a few--maybe 3? (this is from a sample size of ~30 blanks). the ones that don't fit this pattern don't have the white airflow tube/atomizer wire sticking out above the polyfill; instead, the 'top' of the atty wire (where it curves down again) and the tube are level with the top of the polyfill. these don't perform quite as well.

i'll take some pics if you need 'em to explain what i mean. or maybe draw a diagram, that might actually be easier.

i should get my softcaps today!! any minute!!

 

[wisteelersfan]

Belle, I really think you'll be beyond thrilled with these soft caps. I've even traded away all my premiums from the other place away over the weekend. More shorty autos for me this week now!! I even sent a box of the turbos from my stash to a fellow poster that lives about an hour away today. She tried ordering some based on the great reviews they have been getting and they were already gone. Had to make her promise to send me a box back when Ben gets more though. LOL

 

[Gribeau]

That's interesting. Most people I've asked about the Premium soft caps concur with the 1ml/slightly less reading on them.

I'm not claiming that I've got reliable information. I definitely don't have a large enough sample to make any authoritative statements regarding the average fill level. Maybe the ones I got happened to get a bit more batting, so they hold more juice. Hard to say.

That's really interesting, because I suspect the other-brand hard caps are the same manufacturer as the Turbos, and also because I (and plenty of others) experience the soft caps getting pretty darn hot. However, since all the other-brand-hardcaps begin their lives as factory filled, there's no tellin.

Again with the small sample size. Based upon the information I've found I believe that the QC is not stringent, there's definitely a fair bit of variation at play. If my carts have more batting maybe they insulate better. Maybe the wires happen to be placed badly in my hardcaps. Who knows? I'm just a noob with his first order.

 

[mini_art]

Got my new softcaps and the 2 I have opened both have the wire running flush across the top of the batting not sticking up like the hardcaps had.
Personally I love this new cart! It isnt getting hot , good th and great vapor with a nice draw. I cant ask for more then that. Well mabey a way to color code them?
A nice thin line of color running around the bottom would be great.
Mabey a choice of black or white?

We are never satisfied are we? lololol

I am very very happy with these

 

[Belletrist]

I'm not claiming that I've got reliable information. I definitely don't have a large enough sample to make any authoritative statements regarding the average fill level. Maybe the ones I got happened to get a bit more batting, so they hold more juice. Hard to say.

Again with the small sample size. Based upon the information I've found I believe that the QC is not stringent, there's definitely a fair bit of variation at play. If my carts have more batting maybe they insulate better. Maybe the wires happen to be placed badly in my hardcaps. Who knows? I'm just a noob with his first order.

Oh, I'm not contradicting you, if it came across that way. When I say something's interesting or surprising, I actually mean it's "interesting" or "surprising" not "Yeah, right, I don't believe you."

Mines are here. I have removed those little plastic wrappers from all of them, and filled up one to test. Will give an initial review tonight since my especial love of the hard caps was directly related to their consistency over the course of hours, and I'll review again after using a few over the course of a few days.

 

[lairkeeper]

I'd love to see the turbos stay black with the vapornine writing in different colors as a way to code them to flavors.

Mine got here today and I'm working on the first test run....

 

[syntaxevasion]

Got my new softcaps and the 2 I have opened both have the wire running flush across the top of the batting not sticking up like the hardcaps had.
Personally I love this new cart! It isnt getting hot , good th and great vapor with a nice draw. I cant ask for more then that. Well mabey a way to color code them?
A nice thin line of color running around the bottom would be great.
Mabey a choice of black or white?

We are never satisfied are we? lololol

I am very very happy with these

you may be happily surprised in the near future..

 

[syntaxevasion]

I'd love to see the turbos stay black with the vapornine writing in different colors as a way to code them to flavors.

Mine got here today and I'm working on the first test run....

another interesting idea! Would like to see how they'd turn out

Ben

 

[Gribeau]

I would totally order a boatload more of these things if there were some good color options. I'd sort of prefer having more than just black/white as the main color, but if that isn't happening I'd be content with a colored logo or something.

 

[unit40]

Ben, you definitely hit the nail square on the head with these. Just got my order in today. You see, I have been looking for the perfect vape ever since january when I quit analogs. I started with regular "family" cartomizers, experimented with many different flavers and suppliers of juice. Then became kindof leery of the cartos so I tried 901 atties which work awesome at 3.7v. Tried them at 5v with TV tobacco....yuck. Got some HV atties and a 5v mod.....better. But my atomizers keep goin' south. But your new turbos, on my 5v mod, just absolutely kick budd. The caps are so easy to use, and I like how they are a combo washer/cap. Keeps the draw centered over the tube, keeps the juice out. Now I was having problems with the regular cartos, as were some others, but when I hit these for a few seconds at 5v, they just put out the most perfect vapor and the flavor I'm getting is exactly what I have been looking for. It is really good. I did have a tough time condom filling through the battery end at first. the batting seems to be denser (?) and soaks up the liquid differently, plus I was in a rush, but I have learned to keep them topped off anyway - no different to me than dripping with an atty - just to be safe. Another thing, although I'm assuming all the ones I ordered must be black, I just take out my knife and cut a 1mm strip around the carto - like a band - to "label it" and peel the sticker away. I love the way these turbos crackle and pop at first draw... Nice job Ben. I've read a lot on this forum and I like how you listen to your customers and make every attempt to communicate with them (us) and keep improving the goods.

 

[Flowersoul]

Ben,

I received my Turbos on Saturday and held off posting until I was able to test three of them filled with TV flavors.

I am absolutely thrilled with these carts. The caps are exceptionally easy to take off, the filler seems to be more compact and I had to use a cap and a half to fill them.

I don't think it's my imagination when I say that my flavors are tasting extremely mellow without sacrificing throat hit or vapor........especially vapor.

I have used the other carts, and no matter what juice I used, I didn't get the satisfaction I'm getting with the Turbos.

I am using labels to distinguish flavors, so that's not a problem for me.

You've got a winner here Ben, and my friends here in Florida want to know when you will have more of these in stock!

Gracie

 

[Gribeau]

I'll line up a larger number of examples later if it's requested, I'm just throwing these up as a reference on what we're talking about in manufacturing oddities. I took all of these caps off with just my fingers, nothing was shoved inside.

Notice that the center tube on the first one (from the left) sticks up noticeably above the batting.
The wire on the second is waaay up there.
You can barely see the tube on the rightmost carto, it's buried in batting.

I am NOT saying any of this is necessarily a problem. It's just stuff that has been mentioned and I thought it'd be nice to have pictures.

 

[Belletrist]

Perfect pics, Gribeau. I have built a little pyramid out of cartomizers but haven't done anything as useful as take photos of the insides, lol.

I did, however, type up an initial first-day review, and I'll do a review vid (ECF safe, lol) after a couple days.

 

[Katya]

Pay attention Ben....I have noticed some QC problems with these Turbo hard caps...of course all I have right now is the first batch with the glue on/in them. The new ones will be different,right Ben??? ANyway....what I have noticed is that there is a real inconsistancy in the amount of filling...and it seems to make a big difference. That picture I posted was out of a carto that had filling all the way up to the top of the heating element and completely covering the wick. Most of them have about 1/3 less filling...I find that the ones that last the longest have filling that comes about half way up the carto and leaves a good bit of the element and wick exposed.

anybody have any thoughts about this and what it might mean in the ultimate sceme of things ? QUOTE]


Lori, I think you're brilliant. I've also noticed that my first batch of hard caps was somewhat inconsistent, some cartos seemed to perform better and last longer. I opened only three of them so far, and the first visual inspection confirmed your observations. One of my hardcaps had the bent wire so high above the batting that I thought I had pulled it up while prying the cap off. I actually tried to push it back into the batting.

Anyway, I would really like to know what you all think, especially now when it's easy to open them and really take a look. I feel that the protruding wire and/or the extra air pocket above the filler have something to do with the overall performance of the cartomizer, but I have no idea which and what and how and why. We need our resident geek squad to chime in. Scott? Jazz? Drozd? Any thoughts? Belle? What's your theory? And why is the little hole in the battery end of the carto smaller than in the hard caps? Is it a different design?

I also got a pack of 555 prefilled cartos. I'm vaping happily on the first one. Nice, salty, peanutty taste, but performance-wise--disappointing. Dull, sluggish draw, less vapor, no pop and crackle. Dud? Tried another one, same thing. Seem a bit dryish? I don't have any 555 juice to refill... Nothing to write home about.

Ben, there's just one little thing that annoys me. For some reason, both protective silicon caps have this little nub inside. It makes refilling very messy. Can we have only one nub for the battery end, please? And the other one plain and flat?

Tomorrow I'll fill some of my new softies and report my findings. Happy turbo vaping, everyone!

 

[cos]

Good Morn to all
Does anyone know when Ben is getting restocked on these new cartomizers? Heard they are fantastic and would like to buy some. Thank you

Cos

 

[Katmar]

Good Morn to all
Does anyone know when Ben is getting restocked on these new cartomizers? Heard they are fantastic and would like to buy some. Thank you

Cos

Somewhere around the 19th, Ben said.

 

[keyzygirl]

Should we form a line here?

 

[Katmar]

Should we form a line here?

ROFL.........I broke down and ordered the carolina tobacco carts. I figure, if I don't like them, I'll wash them out and use my stuff. These are the soft caps.
I sure would make sure to check in EVERY day. Man, people are pouncing on them!

 

[jazzguy]

Okay, these are fantastic. But I just looked down at my desk and noticed something funny.

At least I think it's funny!


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[Belletrist]

LOL, jazz.

Katya--my theory is (please protect your foreheads with appropriate armor, sciency types) that the protruding wire serves to keep the already-vaporized vapor (duh) heated on its way out--gives it a little extra punch. So less vapor is 'wasted' by turning back into liquid via condensation/transferring heat to the carto shell (because the extra warmth would *insert magic of thermodynamics here*, so it would make it out of the carto as vapor. So we end up with more vapor volume, and rather than getting it by 'more heat' we're getting it by having the liquid first heated to vaporization (where the wick/batting contacts the wire) and it continues to be heated as it passes over the exposed wire. It's not that the wire is "hotter" than a regular carto, it's just that the vapor doesn't have to pass through as much cool air space.