Some Good Press

[KarlH007]

Came across this article in a link while I was checking the weather, imagine that! They're even offering up a deal where you pay $5 in S&H and you can recieve a trial starter kit, not sure whether it's a good product or not but there was a number of people commenting on the article saying that they've put an order in or already recieved the kit and are enjoying it.

www. livingto113 .com

 

[kristin]

This is an advertisement, not a real article. I suggest you delete the link or I'm sure an admin will be along soon to do it for you.

 

[Vocalek]

Did you notice this word at the top of the page? Advertorial

Be sure to read this thread, found in the New Members Forum / New Members Information: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/65772-do-not-order-free-trials.html

 

[jtpjc]

This is in the small print:

Membership Terms and Conditions: If I enroll in the refill membership program I am agreeing to be charged $79.99 + S&H in 15 days and each 30 days thereafter for a 10-filter refill pack. My credit card will be billed and my shipment will be sent automatically at those times.

 

[Vocalek]

And this point is total hogwash: Each cartridge costs less than $2 and is equivalent to an entire pack of cigarettes.

Equivalent in what way? In the number of puffs you can take, or in the delivery of nicotine? You might be able to get 200 puffs from one cartridge, but on a puff-per-puff basis, each puff of vapor delivers less nicotine than in a puff of smoke.

Also the cartridges pictured hold about 1/3 ml of liquid, and they don't say what % of the liquid is nicotine. If it's 16 mg / ml (1.6% nicotine) the cartridge would contain about 5 mg of nicotine, which is about 1/4 the amount of nicotine delivered by a pack of smokes.

But it gets worse. Later they state: "...along with 14 nicotine cartridges (a month's supply)." If a cartridge is equivalent to a pack of smokes, how is 14 cartridges a month's supply? All the months on my calendar contain a minimum of 28 days.

And further on they state: "7 Cartomizers worth 14 Packs of Cigarettes"

A cartridge and a cartomizer are two different things. Cartridges are used with three-piece designs (batter, atomizer, cartridge). Cartomizers are used with two-piece devices that consist of a battery, plus a combined cartridge / atomizer.

Some folks swear by cartomizers. But I have never seen the sense in throwing away a perfectly good atomizer just because there's no liquid left. IMHO, the only way cartomizers are worth while is if you refill them yourself instead of purchasing prefilled ones.

Spend some time in the New Members forum reading about various models. If you start off with a poorly designed e-cigarette, you will not be satisfied with it as a replacement for smoking.

 

[KarlH007]

I stumbled across this while at work and didn't look into the article that finely before posting it, you guys are right this is hogwash could a moderator please delete this thread?

 

[jtpjc]

I wouldn't mind if this thread stayed active, just to warn beginning vapers. Not everyone reads the stickies.

 

[TennDave]

I'm sort of glad this got posted- I say change the link but keep the thread.
I cannot turn my smoking neighbors onto vaping because they fell for this stuff...
Their point now is, "we tried that- it didn't work- it was a terrible experience for us, so we've given up and still smoke."
They do know however that I've used my vaping device for over 18 months now and have not returned to cigarettes.

 

[Kurt]

These companies must be run by bots. They are ALWAYS E9-type ecigs, a crappy old failed ecig technology, and they often have the same Heigl/Letterman video. And she is most probably NOT using an E9 ecig. Its probably a 510, which they are NOT selling. They can't. Their bot programs evidently only know E9 and carto subscription scams...or selling a $20 E9 kit for $150 dollars (White Cloud, GreenSmoke).

Still they do give vaping exposure, and eventually business to vendors that sell good PVs for much less, after the poor duped customer has gone through hell and a few hundred dollars for short-lived POS gear. I know that was the case for me in the beginning with GreenSmoke, which then got me here, and quickly to a 510.

 

[DC2]

I stumbled across this while at work and didn't look into the article that finely before posting it...

Don't worry, we've all fallen for those advertorials at some point.

 

[rolygate]

This thread closed. We'd make it a Sticky except no one ever reads them

Hmm, what about if we try pop-ups? Make all the stickies pop-ups instead? Yes, this sounds excellent, we'll get the coders on it right away.

















this was a joke, keep your shirt on dude