Some homemade attys and genesis

[mwa102464]

Oh yea I had about forgotten about that. I went and looked at them again and after 2 months submerged in the different juice, Still the only change at all was the one in my tap water. the others look just fine. and on a side note My alum end caps on the "Gummy tank are now in daily use for about 8 months (un-anodized, bare alum) no visual signs of any problem
PS all my drip tips are the same too. I'll post this also over in the original thread even if it does mean starting it all up again.

It's the liquid that counts that must be tested here, I too have now put some liquid in 3 containers made from Aluminum with 3 pieces of different types of aluminum in each container 2014,6061,6063 and am also doing a test, especially since there are numerous different types of aluminum out there and also it is being taken granite for that what the material is that people are using is the good stuff, none of it is good in my opinion unless double or tiple anodized if it's touching liquids. I want to learn how to identify different aluminum so we know what is what compared to what we are told is being used, its a lot of reading but anyway Gummy is helping the community and sending these liquids off to be tested and that's big to learn what is in the liquids after being in this aluminum for a long time.

Gummy I would think it has been long enough and you could send those liquids off now, know one is going to leave liquid sitting in a PV for more than 3 months how long has it been now ? Also obviously there are many different Aluminum's out there on the market, what TYPE of Aluminum are you conducting your test with Gummy? I forget what you told me or if you ever did because there are so many different types as below.


* 7075 aluminium
* 2024 aluminium
* 5052 aluminium
# 2090 aluminium
# 2124 aluminium
# 2195 aluminium
# 2219 aluminium
# 2324 aluminium
# 5059 aluminium
# 6013 aluminium
# 7050 aluminium
# 7055 aluminium
# 7150 aluminium
# 7475 aluminium
* 5052 aluminium
* 5059 aluminium
* 5083 aluminium
* 5086 aluminium
* 6061 aluminium
* 6063 aluminium
6111 aluminium

 

[Gummy Bear]

It was 6061-T3 I posted the pics over in the original thread.

You should move/copy this over to that thread.

 

[Scubabatdan]

Scubabatdan
Very very nice mod really innovative as usual with you . I like your work you've, done this is another fine example of your skill and talent . And thanks for sharing your mod and the pic's of it with us .One question ,. So since you've been vaping the Gen do you like it more than your other mods that you've made in the past ? If so can you explain why and how.
Thanks Dan

Hey Dan,
Yes I like the GEN better for two reasons... SS and a tank! and it is easier to replace the coil over the CE2 tank mods I did with SS. LOL needless to say I have 10 XL CE2's NIB that are gathering dust. And other past mods I did use fire wick or batting material and like a stock 510 you have to refill constantly. I can get about 3-4 days between refills on this!

Hey Scuba.

A few questions.

Looks like you are using Nichrome is it? And is it 60 or 80? From all the wraps it looks like a rather fine gauge, 36? Hows that working/holding up for you?

In this pic I notice some very long leads from coil to clips. In my own meager experiments this caused intense glowing. Having the actual leads as short as possible with the connectors almost touching the mesh coil worked much better. Any comments observations?

Actually it is 34ga 60 and it is holding up fine! Yes the longer leads do add to the overall ohms rating so future versions will be closer. Also it does not matter if its long or short the intense glowing is comming from a short with the SS. So if it is long you will see it is shorting versus short it will melt with out notice. I think I have figured out why the SS is shorting randomly with the pre heated SS wick. I want to do a test to confirm my theory first.
Dan

 

[Robert T]

Well verdict is half in on Grainger...No business account no brick and mortar store yet for SS mesh...knew I shoulda gotten that tax # years ago...lol
I wonder if Scubabatdans order has come in yet...
@Scubabatdan Hey Scuba! is it the right stuff?!!...LOL

I ordered the 400 SS mesh from Grainger with no problem, looks like the right stuff but haven't used it yet, if McMasters has it you should order from them since with the shipping it cost me $29 and it took a week for a 12" X 12" sheet.

 

[Scubabatdan]

I ordered the 400 SS mesh from Grainger with no problem, looks like the right stuff but haven't used it yet, if McMasters has it you should order from them since with the shipping it cost me $29 and it took a week for a 12" X 12" sheet.

Hey I never ordered it from there, I went back and checked my paypal transactions and I paid 25.44 USD with shipping to the themeshcompany.com for 2 sheets of A4 (8.25 x 11.75). When I got the package in I had recieved 5 sheets! So from a cost stand point it was cheaper for me to go with the mesh company.
Dan

 

[Quick1]

Hey I never ordered it from there, I went back and checked my paypal transactions and I paid 25.44 USD with shipping to the themeshcompany.com for 2 sheets of A4 (8.25 x 11.75). When I got the package in I had recieved 5 sheets! So from a cost stand point it was cheaper for me to go with the mesh company.
Dan

Same here. I think their deal was buy 2, get 1 extra sheet free. Everyone I know of got 2 or more free sheets. Not sure if that's still their practice but the result was basically $25 for hundreds of wicks.

 

[Yankee802]

I just received my SS mesh from themeshcompany today, got 3 1/2 sheets.

Scubadan: what have you found to be the best solution for wicks? I.e. width, tightness of roll, tightness/loops of coil?

 

[Scubabatdan]

I just received my SS mesh from themeshcompany today, got 3 1/2 sheets.

Scubadan: what have you found to be the best solution for wicks? I.e. width, tightness of roll, tightness/loops of coil?

Hi,
Well I have been playing with altering the way I roll the wick. I had been just rolling it and continue to compress roll until it would not roll and tighter. The problem with this is the edge has tiny little finger sticking out from the cut mesh. You can feel them when you slide it through you finger. This could be what is shorting the coil out when it is wound to tight, acts as a ground to the power from the pos heats a much shorter wire causing it to burn out.

So what I have been testing is first fold the one edge in about 2mm then roll from the other side so the edge that is folded over is under the mesh. Result a smooth wick free of burs for lack of a better word.

Visual:


For a GEN mod it depends on the hole size as to how large a wrap you make. Mine are about 2mm in diameter and fit not loose, but not tight in the hole. The size of the mesh I start with is about 3/4" x the length I need for my mod. I wrap the SS as tight as I can get it. Work it slow so it is even as it gets smaller.

For the coils I over wind 1/2 turn and then let it relax and connect to the terminals. Not to tight but not to loose. You should be able to move the coil easily on the SS. So far I have great luck with no shorting. Before I was doing the pre-fold on one edge I was getting random shorts. None so far this way.

Hope this helps.
Dan

 

[Robert T]

Did you have the same problem with the ce2 mod? It seems you said something about your Pro Vari reading short once in awhile but did it burn the coil?

 

[Scubabatdan]

Did you have the same problem with the ce2 mod? It seems you said something about your Pro Vari reading short once in awhile but did it burn the coil?

Naw didnt burn the coil, the ohms rating was to low on the atty, 1.1 and the provari was shutting down due to over overvoltage spikes. 2.4ohms seems to be the level I like with the provari.
Dan

 

[Yankee802]

Ok, just burned two coils, I'm doing something wrong. I rolled the wick, wrapped with my 36g nichrome 60 about 5 times, and put it on my provari. Last one read 2.4o, then I hit the button to test it, and the leads glowed and the coil dropped off. ??

 

[Scubabatdan]

Ok, just burned two coils, I'm doing something wrong. I rolled the wick, wrapped with my 36g nichrome 60 about 5 times, and put it on my provari. Last one read 2.4o, then I hit the button to test it, and the leads glowed and the coil dropped off. ??

Ummm you did not mention heat treating the section of the SS that the coil is wrapped around....

I use a windproof lighter, and heat the area up RED HOT, the dip it in water, I do that three times so it turns black. Then I wrap my nichrome around it.

Dan

 

[Gummy Bear]

@Yankee802
Was the mesh wet?
I don't know if you did but, You really shouldn't dry burn a Genisis.

 

[asdaq]

Dan, those wire ends can be troublesome, but they can be oxidized too. You might like another method, roll it inwards from both sides until they meet in the middle. Rather like cinnamon bark. This would give the multi-wick feel too.

 

[Scubabatdan]

Dan, those wire ends can be troublesome, but they can be oxidized too. You might like another method, roll it inwards from both sides until they meet in the middle. Rather like cinnamon bark. This would give the multi-wick feel too.

Yeah that will work too, anything to keeps the edges to the inside minimizes the possibility of shorting.
Dan

 

[OBeer-WAN-Kenobi]

Ergh..........Just ruined two of those omoron D2F-L switches from digikey like POC used. It must be the heat from the soldering iron. I was extra careful on the second one and see no visual damage but the darned thing let's 3.7 volts through in the open position and 3.8 in the closed.

I'm going to try to find a more robust switch that will fit in my design I guess.

 

[Quick1]

Yeah that will work too, anything to keeps the edges to the inside minimizes the possibility of shorting.

I like that idea of the 2mm fold-in at the other end... never thought of that. If I get inspired (less lazy ) I'll try that next time I roll a wick. The leads shouldn't be a problem and oxidising them wouldn't serve much purpose. I just install and do short burst test fires to see what portions glow. Get a glow, nudge the coil above or below slightly up or down on the mesh with a tooth pick and repeat until they're gone (if it's a lead then it's right where it first contacts the mesh). very short, increasing duration button applications until you are confident there are no shorts to the mesh and you won't burn through any coils.

 

[cos]

I know I haven't contributed much to the US coop other than opinion, but I still want to make sure I get on the list. Been a very busy year so far, and haven't had much time to get on here. I have been gone for two months, and I know a lot has happened, so if there is a list I need to be on please let me know. Thanks everyone!

UA72Riddle RockWoman is in charge of the CO-OP but she is still looking around and getting ideas and prices so the list is not really started yet. But we do have people interested so your not too late at all. Since then there have been a few people making their own versions of the Genisis. Persis for one and Scubadatdan has just made one also. Just letting you know you are not too late top the CO-OP party lol.

 

[cos]

Dan i really like that design you made for the Genisis CE2. I might have to go to my friends house and show him some specs so he can set up the lathe. Dan are there just 2 wires running inside the ss inside from the 510 connection? any other wires? Like the idea of the SS mesh set up this way also. Excellent work Dan.

 

[Scubabatdan]

UA72Riddle RockWoman is in charge of the CO-OP but she is still looking around and getting ideas and prices so the list is not really started yet. But we do have people interested so your not too late at all. Since then there have been a few people making their own versions of the Genisis. Persis for one and Scubadatdan has just made one also. Just letting you know you are not too late top the CO-OP party lol.

Hey IF I can I was going to make a couple GEN mods for prizes at VapeStock... I hope I get them done in time, will add a couple new ideas into them

Dan