Some homemade attys and genesis

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Scubabatdan

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Scuba could you elaborate on the airflow part of your design? I see that the slots in the tank lend to the draw airflow but it is the top piece that i am confused by. Does the top cap o-ring fit inside of the tank? I wondered how airflow will get past the top piece o-ring.

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No problem, the air would come in through a hole in the poly tube and pass the coil, the slots in the side of the reservoir will allow the vapor to the top. Since the mouth piece is made to seal the reservoir, the side step with the holes allow air to flow through the channels up the outside of the resivor into the mouth piece. The air path is outside of the o-ring. I am considering needing a second oring to seal the top of the poly tube so the air system is closed beteen the hole and mouth piece.
Still a concept in progress.
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Dan, one small thing. Would vapor/condensate build up in the passageways and start to gurgle? Maybe fewer larger channels so it drains back down easily and doesn't clog or cling especially in corners.

With the bottle version, how clean is the bottle when you take it out to refill?
 

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@ lorderos33 I have 34 and 36 a1 left and some nicrome 60 I was kind of in a hurry 2 dying cartos left at the time(I'm fine now) and had to find a US supplier with a supply of the stuff...also currently not programmable electronics...I have a PTN78020 in a 6 NiZN supplied mod it will also accept a 12 v input for external power(not passthru it bypasses the batteries) it can output 5A at 2.2 if need be I have tested that...my voltage range is 2.2-9.5 with 12v external or a max of 7.6 on NiZN...

I am building a PWM with Micro-controller setup but thats a bit off as that is part of a touch screen system and I am still getting the touch screen figured out...
 

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lorderos where did you buy your 32 guage kanthal? Can you you explain what you mean by grade of kanthal wire? i just thought we had to order 32 guage or 36 guage or just nichrome wire. I want to get some nichrome wire so does anyone know what type Nichrome wire i need? madvapes sells nichrome 60 is that ok?

Here's where I got my 32ga kanthal. The grade is a-1 so it is the good stuff, and cheap to boot. He runs out but usually has it again pretty quickly. It's a pretty good supply of the stuff for under $5 (not including shipping) so you will be able to experiment with coils to your hearts content :)

I will post the kanthal grades chart with summaries of the different grade's properties.
 

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@ lorderos33 I have 34 and 36 a1 left and some nicrome 60 I was kind of in a hurry 2 dying cartos left at the time(I'm fine now) and had to find a US supplier with a supply of the stuff...also currently not programmable electronics...I have a PTN78020 in a 6 NiZN supplied mod it will also accept a 12 v input for external power(not passthru it bypasses the batteries) it can output 5A at 2.2 if need be I have tested that...my voltage range is 2.2-9.5 with 12v external or a max of 7.6 on NiZN...

I am building a PWM with Micro-controller setup but thats a bit off as that is part of a touch screen system and I am still getting the touch screen figured out...

Is that 5A or 5V and what is the resistance you are going across? It sounds like you're doing some big wattache for the application and I wuld expect juice to burn up unless you had ALOT of juice flow to keep up.
 

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Hi,
No problem, the air would come in through a hole in the poly tube and pass the coil, the slots in the side of the reservoir will allow the vapor to the top. Since the mouth piece is made to seal the reservoir, the side step with the holes allow air to flow through the channels up the outside of the resivor into the mouth piece. The air path is outside of the o-ring. I am considering needing a second oring to seal the top of the poly tube so the air system is closed beteen the hole and mouth piece.
Still a concept in progress.
Dan

I think I'm going to put one of these together as a prototype...gotta start sourcing some small diameter stainless tube and elbows. :)

I'd quote the joker's "where does he get all those wonderful toys?", but I already know the answer. He makes them, lol, good stuff Dan. Really, really good stuff :)
 

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Is that 5A or 5V and what is the resistance you are going across? It sounds like you're doing some big wattache for the application and I wuld expect juice to burn up unless you had ALOT of juice flow to keep up.

it has the capability of 5A(well technically 6A but the most I have gotten is 5) I have tried every voltage up the scale starting a 2.2-6v.....

I was just telling you the capabilities of my mod so you would have an understanding of what I had...I am thinking for the amount of wicking I am getting I need to lower the resistance...as unless I can only run 2 to 3 turns I am getting 3-4 ohms...IDK I'm beginning to suspect my meter is giving a bad reading...its a $19 special from Frys...My good one doesn't do ohms...and my old one is analog...


I'd quote the joker's "where does he get all those wonderful toys?", but I already know the answer. He makes them, lol, good stuff Dan. Really, really good stuff :)

He knew that too:laugh::vapor:
 
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Are you getting 3-4 ohms at the coil or across the whole mod? I know if I measure just the coil I get one ohm reading and if I measure the mod with the power supply attached I get a much higher value.

In my experience, when I don't have enough resistance at the coil, even without being able to read any shorts, the whole coil will glow red within a second or 1.5 seconds and then simply flash burn all the juice in the wick in less than 3 seconds (20mm mesh rolled to 2mm with a good 3/4 - 1" extra above the coil). I get a burnt taste at that point. I would say to go to 4 or 5 wraps. That should help tame the power output you are putting in a bit and get you a much more enjoyable vape. At 3 coils I get just about 2 ohms with 32 ga and at 2.9A and 3.7V I can get things to even out and not burn real quick. I still have to pulse the button at about 2 secs on 1-2 seconds off, but it generates clouds of vapor you can't see through, lol.

The down-side to it is that when you do get it dialed in right, you will go through a bunch of juice, but that's not a bad thing since it tastes amazing and you only need one or two good puffs and the nic craving is gone.

I've had a few people try my mod without knowing how much vapor came out and they start to choke on inhale. I love seeing that, HAHAHAHAHAHA :)

I always get the same response....tastes great but man it's got some kick.

They usually proceed to take another puff or two and almost without fai say they haven't felt that nic rush since they first started smoking.
 

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I get that res reading from the wire...after I install it on the gen tank...

hence why I need 32ga and maybe 28ga...the other 2 seem to be too high a resistance...and I never did see a link to the guy you got the kanthal from...

and as to juice usage...:laugh: I have enough for a couple of years at 20 ml a day...:evil::lol:

I go thru 10-12 now...:vapor::vapor::vapor::vapor::vapor::vapor::vapor:
 
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Yea hence why I need 32ga and maybe 28ga...the other 2 seem to be too high a resistance...and I never did see a link to the guy you got the kanthal from...

and as to juice usage...:laugh: I have enough for a couple of years at 20 ml a day...:evil::lol:

I go thru 10-12 now...:vapor::vapor::vapor::vapor::vapor::vapor::vapor:


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I would say that's a good supply then :)

Sorry about the link...i thought I pasted it, my bad. Here it is though.
Resistance heating wire, Kanthal A-1 32 awg 75ft | eBay
$4.50 + $2.00 shipping. I thought it was a great deal for 75' of Kanthal A-1. I think I'm going to try to source some Kanthal-AE. I'm just curious how the fast reacting alloy will work in a genesis.
 

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Modumust Fever you say,,,,,,,,,,,:toast:

Yes, yes Dr. Gummy. I have seen a number of these cases. Seems to stem mostly from over exposure to some German member on the ECF Forums site and some reference to a small winged mammal that somehow has acquired the ability to use diving equipment and a Polish person who seems to like Mortal Kombat.

The only known cure is a lathe, a milling machine, some acrylic, stainless steel and aluminum raw stock, and various other metallic and silica based materials. A workshop toput it all in is a plus followed by weeks of intensive research and finally a prototype build of some device called a "PEE VEE" or a "MOD"???

The final recovery seems to consist of many hours of "vaping" oneself silly, preferably at an accelerated rate than can be achieved by means of a commercially available e-cig device.

It's a rather difficult affliction, but thank god there is a cure.
 

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WRONG!,,,, there is no cure, one can only treat the symptoms as you described above.
Unlike other viruses this one seems to be transmitted visually. It may even be some type of computer virus that not even Norton can detect. as almost all of the infected seem to spend a lot of time looking at Pee Vees on their computers and talking to other infected people about their affliction
 
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