Some homemade attys and genesis

[Vageorge]

These porous diffuser sticks might make good wicks

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Or you could place the coil inside one of these filter rings.

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Thats all, brain empty.

 

[raidy]

These porous diffuser sticks might make good wicks

Or you could place the coil inside one of these filter rings.

Thats all, brain empty.

Hi Vageorge,

I had tested with different porous ceramics from ceramtec a year ago. They give me some samples
The problems was:
1) Not enough liquid flow (ml/h).
2) The ceramic clogged very quickly.

But the basic in your idea ist good, compliment!

 

[perlionsmitnick]

I began experimenting with wicking sticks last night. Very nice idea Vageorge. These sticks are like lots of tiny straws all bunched up together. So far I need to move the stick even with top of genisis and let SS extend above it so that there is no burnt wood taste. This may be a solution to the low supply/refresh problem.

Can anyone enlighten me whether or not the length of the SS wick plays a roll in liquid supply? I am using 325 mesh and genisis is about 70 mm long. I have also tried everything from 20mm to 60 mm rolled into about 3 mm tube. That is why I am tying the wicking stiick.

From what I've read, people are having problems even when using 400 mesh SS.

 

[asdaq]

In a longer thinner tank the wick would be longer, but submerged in liquid, so length doesn't really matter, maybe if it was almost empty and held vertically all the time. What does seem to matter is how far it must travel through the top cap and above that point, where it could be pinched, bent or have an air bubble trapped inside. I've got one about 70mm @ 5v that wicks well.

 

[Krythis]

I just put in an order for more clear glass drip bottles and threw in some clear tubing to make a wicking atty. Min order is 10', but from what I can tell this tubing appears perfect. Thoughts?

 

[Quick1]

I think you all are trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Myself, as well as others, do not have a problem with wicking. To me that implies the oxidized SS mesh as a wicking material to be more than adaquate.

I have a 1/8" air hole, I use 32 gauge kanthal wrapped to 1.8 ohms around 2 mm diameter #400 mesh. I direct inhale. I like more TH than most. I have no problems generating large lung fulls of very dense vapor. I'm using extremely thick (100% VG) juice. My mesh goes all the way to the bottom of the tank and I get about the same vape until it's completely empty. My coil covers about 2/3 of the ~8 mm of mesh that sticks out of the top.

Maybe it's the heat you use, or how you wrap your coil, or how you roll your mesh, or how much air flows over it, or something... but it's not the mesh material.

 

[asdaq]

Krythis, is this to go with some 5' SS tubing I think you have? Looks decent, but please get a larger size than 1/4". 1/2" for smaller, 3/4" for larger. 1" if you plan to get into 26XXX batts

 

[Quick1]

Can anyone enlighten me whether or not the length of the SS wick plays a roll in liquid supply?

Yes. Capillary action works against gravity. (that's why trees can only grow to some maximum fixed height). I have no problem draining my tank with a 40 mm long wick -- so the #400 mesh rolled to 2 mm diameter is plenty sufficient for at least that length.

From what I've read, people are having problems even when using 400 mesh SS.

I'm not.

 

[Krythis]

Krythis, is this to go with some 5' SS tubing I think you have? Looks decent, but please get a larger size than 1/4". 1/2" for smaller, 3/4" for larger. 1" if you plan to get into 26XXX batts

Good memory Yes I have 2 5' sections of SS tube I use for bottom feeders.

The 1/4" is actually .344" ID and .54" OD. My plan is to have a ~1" reservoir on a Tornado, if my math is correct this would give me about 1.5ml per fill.

Upon further consideration(thx asdaq) I decided to go with 3/8(.473" ID .675" OD). This will be a little easier to work with, although still a bit small.

 

[asdaq]

That' 3/8" ' corresponds to 17/12mm which means the wall is 2.5. That is really thick stuff. The hybrid has 20/16mm with 2mm wall and is like an armored tank. I have 15/13mm and it is still plenty. Important is to consider that you need to fit a lot on the inside, caps, orings, holes etc.

 

[michal.jansto]

I think you all are trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

Hihi, it sounds like an oxymoron . If the problem is solved, so there.

The wicking sticks I fear with overcooking .

 

[Krythis]

That' 3/8" ' corresponds to 17/12mm which means the wall is 2.5. That is really thick stuff. The hybrid has 20/16mm with 2mm wall and is like an armored tank. I have 15/13mm and it is still plenty. Important is to consider that you need to fit a lot on the inside, caps, orings, holes etc.

Correct, wall is .091". Sounds like it may be thicker than necessary, guess it'll at least give me something to play around with until I have a better understanding of what's needed.

 

[ken729]

I really want to try my hand at making a Genesis atty...probelm is i don't have the tools to make the caps and other things. Is anyone selling a "kit" for those of us that are not fortunate enough to be able to make? I understand Raidy doesn't want people selling the atty's..thats fine. But the machined parts? Help!

 

[Quick1]

My silicone sealer is having a hard time adhearing to the acrylic tube... It seems to get a good grip on the aluminum base but, twice now, the tube has broken loose (you can turn it and it seeps a bit). Strange that the top seems to have glued on there well.

Any suggestions? Does silicone have a hard time adhering to acrylic? Maybe if I roughed it with fine sand paper? Maybe I didn't get it really clean before sealing? Maybe I should have used rubbing alcohol or somehing. What I'm looking for is some sort of semi-permanent sealer. I want to be able to take it apart to rebuild if I have to. So something that would seal and hold tightly but also something that would allow prying it apart without damaging it.

 

[Dave_uk]

What I'm looking for is some sort of semi-permanent sealer. I want to be able to take it apart to rebuild if I have to. So something that would seal and hold tightly but also something that would allow prying it apart without damaging it.

Hi Quick1

I think the answer your looking for is an O ring..

Maybe with a matching groove inside the acrylic tube for the O ring to 'pop' into.

This should stop it just sliding apart and may relieve any stress on the acrylic tube.

Maybe.

 

[Turbo]

I really want to try my hand at making a Genesis atty...probelm is i don't have the tools to make the caps and other things. Is anyone selling a "kit" for those of us that are not fortunate enough to be able to make? I understand Raidy doesn't want people selling the atty's..thats fine. But the machined parts? Help!

Well 'peaceoffcake' did a couple co-ops for parts but he's not doing anymore at the moment. A couple people have made the caps out of other materials, like stewalin or ceramic, so there's a way.

 

[perlionsmitnick]

What does this mean? Are you saying you have an open hole in the top for filling or something?

How do you keep liquid from running out?

 

[Turbo]

What does this mean? Are you saying you have an open hole in the top for filling or something?

How do you keep liquid from running out?

It's the cap that covers the Genisis atty where the air hole is. 'quick' uses a larger diameter because he direct inhales. Most of us are using two; one about .5/.7mm and another directly across from it and lower 1mm, like 'jensb's pic below.

 

[perlionsmitnick]

It's the cap that covers the Genisis atty where the air hole is. 'quick' uses a larger diameter because he direct inhales. Most of us are using two; one about .5/.7mm and another directly across from it and lower 1mm, like 'jensb's pic below.

Oh, my duh moment. I thought he meant air hole through to the juice tank. I use 3 or 4 .5 mm holes at the same height as the coil.

Still trying to find the right combination of variables for my setup.

 

[Turbo]

Oh, my duh moment. I thought he meant air hole through to the juice tank. I use 3 or 4 .5 mm holes at the same height as the coil.

Still trying to find the right combination of variables for my setup.

That's what it's all about, your last statement.