Some homemade attys and genesis

[Turbo]

@ 'cos': There may be another switch, but the problem will be finding one that works w/ the hole and has the correct rating. Maybe someone can chime in and elaborate. The microswitch we have is a good switch and holds up well. I set mine halfway in and don't think it'll pocket fire.

@ 'rico': The only chance of buying one at the moment would be used. If I'm not mistaken 'peace' is not making a new batch.

 

[asdaq]

Cos, I've been thinking about it, but you'd need a big switch that has quite a flat housing. Recessing the switch does really change things though, You still find it fine with your finger against the slick SS finish, you can even hold your finger over it, but it takes a conscious press with some meat and bone to actually fire. There's another way without changing the switch soldering setup, just replace the button with a 5mm LED, preferably flat, with the legs snipped off. File/ sand the LED down til it is close to flush with the hybrid body with the switch in place. This method should be less invasive and keeps it simple.

I'm pretty sure Turbo's got it, but we have to wait til he wears something with pockets

 

[cos]

Thanks Turbo and asdaq. I appreciate the advice, I tell you though this Genisis is really something else. asdaq great idea about the 5mm led. i think i can recess the switch some more so maybe i will do that.
thanks. so where is everyone hanging out nowadays?
I sure learned so much from you guys here. Have a great weekend

 

[Rock Woman]

Ok folks...I need feedback from you all. I have cut polycarbonate, got in some 510 atty connectors and am in process of hand turning Delrin rod to make cap pieces for a Genisis and it is a PITA. Rather than buy a lathe, I would rather buy some parts. There is a guy in Poland making these. Price without shipping is ok....but I still need to get a ship quote and 10 orders. As an alternative, I know of a very, very good machine shop. These guys make important metal pieces for applications like space travel. Do I approach my friend, the owner, and see if we can get a quote to make these? I will do it but want some feedback. You all know SS is going to cost more than aluminum. If we get these in standard measurements, we can replace any broken tanks very easily though. Tell me what you all think or PM me if you think I'm cracked.

 

[Quick1]

If we get these in standard measurements, we can replace any broken tanks very easily though. Tell me what you all think or PM me if you think I'm cracked.

I'M IN!

Yes, go with a Genisis rather than a Hybrid approach. Most people already have a battery mod (like me ). So I'd like to see a Genisis with a 510 connector. I suspect Peaceoffcake would share his plans for a start and you could change the dimensions for the tank fit. Threaded mouth piece cap like the Hybrid.

1) make the cap 2 - 4 mm deeper for just a little bit more clearance.
2) Make the top cap threaded to screw on like the Hybrid does.

These guys make important metal pieces for applications like space travel.

hey, wait a minute... If they could make us a tank from space age material we wouldn't have to worry about replacing them

 

[theECB]

Rock Women, I would be interested as well. I agree about the Genesis atty part only with 510 connection. Please let me know more details as more become interested as well. I too have made delrin end caps using a wood lathe and a 2in chuck. My success was minimal. Stainless steel is a must in my opinion as well. Threaded cap....I am open to suggestions.

 

[asdaq]

Rockwoman, that is a great idea. Djgap's Genisis is made to go with the Indulgence, but then he added a 510 connection that is a brass plate that threads into the bottom of his genisis so you can get to the wiring. Nice feature. Also, he uses SS for the top cap too, not alu. He went with 2 holes in the cap so that you could block one as it is going to be difficult for someone to drill out another hole in SS at home. Also, his threads for the cap go higher, but someone said it impedes getting to the kanthal and mesh, so he will do them lower from now on. I had to pass as I actually don't have a battery mod that it would fit on and it would look awkward.

I would suggest a 3/4" or 7/8" overall OD for all parts, you guys should vote depending on what average sizes your mods are. Since these machinists sound good, and making a smaller genisis is quite difficult, I would even be interested in a 5/8" model, but I'm pretty sure that is just me.

If the top of the tank were not flat but slightly sloped towards the wick, this would help with getting a 'good to the last drop' tank.

Some sort of collar to go around the connection to keep the lines smooth and relieve the stress point would be nice, but probably too trivial.

 

[cos]

Rock Woman great idea and i am game. i would love to be on the list so please count me in.
It is great all you guys always have something continually going on. This is gonna be great. Im sure you will get way more than 10 people.

 

[chuckie]

I'm interested.I like my alum.mouthpiece cap,it's easy to drill an extra air hole in to if necessary.Other than that I'll wait on other suggestions.Please keep us posted.

 

[lexi60]

Rock Woman.
I'd be in for one. Maybe more depending on the cost.

 

[Turbo]

Count me in too. A 510 Genisis was going to be my next project. I agree on standard US measurements to make tank replacement easier. 'asdaq' and 'quick' gave good suggestions, we should discuss specs as we get closer.

 

[cos]

yeh asdaq and Quick know the measurements and know exactly what we need.
I was wondering how to get a 510 connection on the Genisis atty. Looks like we will have no problem getting 10 people will we Turbo? lol

 

[Rock Woman]

Great ideas, keep it coming, I have contacted my friend and we will meet next week. I am probably insane for taking on this project but I feel we need something like this in the states because so many people want a quality Genisis. The two big questions now are size and material. Aluminum is more cost effective and totally inert but is softer than steel and conducts heat but why couldn't we do this all aluminum?

 

[Quick1]

Aluminum is more cost effective and totally inert but is softer than steel and conducts heat but why couldn't we do this all aluminum?

Aluminum is perfectly fine. My two Genisis from Peaceoffcake are aluminum end caps and mouth piece cap. Works great and easily modifiable like drilling out holes or whatever. I did have one plastic mouth piece cap which I really liked too...but I lost it (since my mouth piece caps don't screw on they are prone to getting knocked off).

An aluminum tank would work but see-through would be preferable. I really don't need to see juice level anymore (a little less than 1/2 tank a day) but it's nice to see what's going on in there. If bubbles are appearing from the connector, that your mesh is vertical and to the bottom, whatever. On the other hand the convenience might not equal the advantage of an indestructible tank.

 

[Rock Woman]

Quick what about the upper and lower piece? The driptip cap, yes aluminum. The tank, plexi or polycarbonate standard ID size. But why not aluminum for the tank connection pieces?

Hell, why not rethink the connections too. If we are going to build an American version, why not make it easier and with the all the extra features we have always wanted? I have read other posts that do a version of the Genisis but with a sideways wick.

 

[traderdan]

Rock Women
I would also like to be considered for one. I like the side-ways pattern style would work good . Safe Aluminum would work for me also metal tank good for me I can machine a window epoxied in it after if I need . Thanks Dan

 

[chuckie]

Either tank is ok,but clear would be better.I'm with you on the connectors,an improvement on those would make my day.

 

[asdaq]

Even though I'm in mm-land, please consider me too. I think a clear tank is nicer too. I'm not sure I get what you mean with a sideways mount though, that the wick bends and lays horizontal in the coil?

edit: As for SS or alu for the top and bottom of the tank, it could go either way, but with SS you have higher strength with less material, but this isn't really an issue for these parts, except for around the connector.

Anyone else interested in a 5/8" OD?

 

[Rock Woman]

asdaq I could never forget you. If you were not in Poland I would send you the 1st 5/8 prototype! I too want a smaller one but am afraid of wrapping kanthal in such a small area. Scratch the all aluminum maybe, gummy just posted something on health hazards and we want to be safe where able so I guess just the top cap for aluminum.

Even though I'm in mm-land, please consider me too. I think a clear tank is nicer too. I'm not sure I get what you mean with a sideways mount though, that the wick bends and lays horizontal in the coil?

edit: As for SS or alu for the top and bottom of the tank, it could go either way, but with SS you have higher strength with less material, but this isn't really an issue for these parts, except for around the connector.

Anyone else interested in a 5/8" OD?

 

[Gummy Bear]

Perhaps you misunderstood me. I think Alum is very safe.