Some homemade attys and genesis

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Going from the hybrid and my own takes on this, it is really nice to have a tank tightly pressed on with o-rings (Quick might disagree)
lol, correct! All 3 of my acrylic tubes cracked due to the o-ring pressure. Maybe diameters were out of tolerance or the groove or whatever. There are 3 components there each with their own manufacturing tolerance. Cap diameter, groove shape and depth, O-ring and inner diameter of the tube. I expect the tolerances on the o-ring and inner diameter of the tube to be large. The fit has to be very tight/snug to seal as well as provide structural support -- for example I think you should be able to drop it on a carpeted floor with no effect. Just seems like way too much of a chance for fail there. If there is any other solution (which I can't think of) I'd prefer that. It would be great to have it threaded with a flat gasket but then you are going to need the threaded tank part which defeats the whole idea. One idea I can think of which probably wouldn't be cost effective would be a compression fitting. Collar nut and sleeve type of thing. If we can come up with some available tube material that can easily stand up to the o-ring pressure then that would be fine also. Needs to be shock resistant as well as hold up to lateral force. Try standing your 18650 sleeved hybrid on end on a table and tip it over. When it slaps flat on the table there is a considerable shock on the genisis.
threads for the for the cap.
I'm ALL for that.
For a central wire tube, I could go either way, it still needs to be routed and sealed at the top, but it could continue the ground nicely.
Yes, people forget that the vapor chamber is not dry. Condensation will eventually run down the tube. Having the top cap and the bottom cap/connector electrically connected would be convenient. The tube part not so important. The problem with a rigidly connected top and bottom cap is that you are constrained to a fixed tank tube length. With them not connected it doesn't have to be a precise length (or can be any length you prefer).
Pyrex seems hard to cut/machine but I'm not sure.
If the tank is less than steel strength then it needs to be replaceable. It needs to be replaceable with something that's readily available and with basic tools that most people are going to have or borrow (not a lathe).
I know this is supposed to be inches everything, but could the small holes still be mm? :) Just askin
The important part in inches is the tube so that it's easily obtained for replacement. All the small holes will have "soft" fittings like sealing the wire with shrink wrap around it so that shouldn't be a big deal. Metric screws are ubiquitous for the fill hole and maybe the negative connection if the caps are electrically connected.
 

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I agree with asdaq. We wanted easy to replace tanks and that's where the inch measure comes in. Most of the holes will probably stay metric. Hell it took me long enough to figure out how to roll a proper wick to just under 2mm, I don't want to make my fingers relearn now! I too like a threaded cap and I refill often enough to want a separate cap. As for cap material, I really don't care if I can see through it or not but, if we use O rings and a press on cap, we could change it to whatever we wanted? As much as i like threaded, it may be something to think about. I really like POC's design on this with the top lip that keeps juice in the wick area too. If the mechanical connections I have in mind work out, there will be no soldering except for maybe the 510 connection it self. I am hoping it works out because it will solve the top kanthal connection too. Patience, I am working on the design here whenever I am not working to death at the regular job.
 

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For the Stewalin substitution, I got this reply from Creartec:

1. The product is toxically harmless.
2. It is heat resistant up to 120 °C.
3. It is not water resistant, for this purpose the item has to be finished with "Plaster-Sealant"(Art. 78 521)
4. Stewalin is a similar material but not of such a high quality. Artestone is based on a phosphate-plaster and for this reason its
solidity is much higher.

Of course they say their product is better. but with regards to heat and water resistance, Stewalin still seems hard to beat.
 

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Sorry for the delay in answering, I've been crazy busy and haven't been reading much lately. My design was for a full mod, not a 510 connected tube, but what I'be been working on can very easily be adapted to work either way.

I'll send you the drawings after they are approved by Raidy if you'd like to check it out.

I'm trying to keep assembly to a simple process and still have an elegant design that will also be easy to produce (economical) and be extremely reliable.

It's presenting some interesting challenges to do all if it and have it turn out the way I'm envisioning it, lol, but should hopefully be something good to look at and enjoyable to vape :)
 
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RockWoman It really sounds great. I really appreciate all you are doing in this design and for the CO-OP. Like i said in the beginning i am still new to this moding thing and i am learning so much from everyone here. Sorry i have no ideas so i leave that to the proi modders like you guys. I have 2 hybrids and i do love them both. I doi want to say though everyone has some great ideas and i wanted to commend everyone for so much talent. I am so glad i am in on this CO-OP cause its gonna be great and the product that is agreed upon will be outta this world. Thanks to everyone. And a special thank you many times to Raidy himself. Also want to thank Peaceofcake again for doing all he did for making us Hybrid Genisis owners.
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Hi all
i was very busy the last weeks.
I read about the co-op sound good for you all. I stoped to use the "normal" genisis and just use the genisis LV now. These are the best i have ever seen and need a minimum of maintaince, no tanks or something, you just have to skrew in a new liquid bottle and back on track again.
Since this all my genisis and hybrid are not longer in use and i can enjoy vaping every day
 

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asdaq, yes you just change the tanks or fill new liquid in the vial.
hm about the kanthal i cant say so much because i use 80%PG now and just change my kanthal and mesh once a month.
btw the PG make vapor like VG liquids :p

Is this the box mod you pictured a little while ago Jens? The one that you built via the German forum? Either way a new pic would be nice ;)
 

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This one gives an idea of it:

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Well I just got my tracking number from country porch that WepX suggested to try out his crimp tubes.
I ordered them over two weeks ago!

Have you all been buying up their stock?

Maybe time to buy stock in silver. 8)

I've put my hybrid tweaking on hold until the tubes arrive. Didn't expect them to take that long!

Looking forward to trying them out. Thanks WepX.
 
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