Some homemade attys and genesis

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WillyB

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Heard of Redilast a while ago. I'm guessing you compared against AWs. What were the comparison points that you chose Redilast on?
The Redilast2900 and the AW2900 are just re-wrapped Panasonic cells (they just add their own PCB as Panasonic cells are unprotected).

For Li-Ions, AW's own 2600 is a cheaper and better cell for our uses.

Note in this 2A drain test that although the Panasonics would last a tad longer in a flashlight the AW2600 maintains a higher voltage (less voltage sag) during a normal vaping range.

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You might also find the AW IMR trace interesting. Although it starts higher than the others the voltage drop is quite extreme and quick.
 

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I am in favor of a bit smaller tank, 1/2" ID 5/8" OD. The larger and closer to the POC design would be a 5/8" ID 3/4" OD. What is your preferred size?

I'd be ok w/ a 5/8" OD as well. We can always control the 'ml' it'll hold by length of the tank.

The 5/8"-3/4" is just a bit on the "fat" side. I wouldn't mind something a bit smaller in OD than your standard 14500 pv.
Length IS important. What it fits in, how prone it is to breaking. Long atty + drip tip means you end up with a LOT of leverage out towards the tip. Not good for excessive angular force towards the connector end.

What you want to weigh it against is capacity. I think 1 ml is the minimum and probably too small. I would find 1.5 ml capacity ideal. The Genisis I have now is about 3 ml.

The downside of 1/2" - 5/8" is the 1/16" wall thickness... I think that's a no go. I'd like to see 1/8" wall thickness at a minimum? A main factor inspiring this was tank replacement... because they break.
 

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I think mj was on the right track with his design with minor modification of the top section to have a removable cap. (starting to sound like a broken record at this point )

Thanks, but I think the cap is not necessary. To replace Kanthal, irrigation chamber for the liquid. I am running without the cap long enough. No maintenance required. The system is cheaper without the cap. Dimension is the ego ideal. Liquid capacity of 2.3 ml. I have a visual inspection of spirals.
I tested a lot of settings, but I did not find any better.
 

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The connection points for the 510 end and for the up top kanthal end are what is taking the longest.If it was just a matter of a tank (in inch measure) with a 510 connection point and upper metal disc that holds wire and mesh, we would be ready to produce right now.


how about this for the top post

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Although similar there are better choices. Like round ones that are basically a pin and a threaded sleeve. I don't think anyone is at that level of detail yet. :)

oh. I thought that was what Rockwoman meant by top connections.I use something similar but they are the connections out of an electronic thermostat.

Is the battery end being considered for the Co-op? I would consider jumping aboard for a 18650 in the smallest tube possible.

Screw-on top makes the most sense in my opinion.
 

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The 5/8"-3/4" is just a bit on the "fat" side. I wouldn't mind something a bit smaller in OD than your standard 14500 pv.
Length IS important. What it fits in, how prone it is to breaking. Long atty + drip tip means you end up with a LOT of leverage out towards the tip. Not good for excessive angular force towards the connector end.

What you want to weigh it against is capacity. I think 1 ml is the minimum and probably too small. I would find 1.5 ml capacity ideal. The Genisis I have now is about 3 ml.

The downside of 1/2" - 5/8" is the 1/16" wall thickness... I think that's a no go. I'd like to see 1/8" wall thickness at a minimum? A main factor inspiring this was tank replacement... because they break.


I agree...the smaller the better....these things are incredibly top heavy....and I usually dont get through a full tank without a 'freshen up' top off...dont see the issue with a smaller tank...
 

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A suggestion for the co-op.

If you can spec out all the parts, it would be awesome if you also included the kanthal and mesh (maybe 1 sq ft).

I keep telling myself I'll build a genesis, and probably will, but if I were to buy one, considering all the trial and error required to find out "what I like", the best purchase would be a set that included all the necessary start-up components.

Just my $0.02
 

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RockWoman My vote is 1/2" ID 5/8" OD
Thank you so much

Yup, I like that idea too... as long as it's not really long, then it just adds way too much length to some PVs which are already borderline too long as it is.

Hey cos, I just noticed your sig... you have two Hybrids?? You lucky SOB.... lol! :D
 

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Yup, I like that idea too... as long as it's not really long, then it just adds way too much length to some PVs which are already borderline too long as it is.

Hey cos, I just noticed your sig... you have two Hybrids?? You lucky SOB.... lol! :D

NatureBoy yeh i have 2. 1 for each hand.
 
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