Something weird or not?

[vapdivrr]

Not entirely sure , exactly why this happens. .. in my expensive regulated box mods this never happens, but I have 2 in which it does. I probably have 10 rta's and most of the 510 pins are all of the same lenght but a couple seem to protrude ever so slightly more, when these specific tanks are screwed into either of those two mods, within a few vapes or so, something happens and the cotton will singe. I know it's the lenght of the 510 pin in the tank that's doing it because it never happens with the other tanks. I think these slightly longer pins in the tank, depress the mods spring loaded pin up too much and maybe creates a short? What it feels like is alot of extra power being released which burns the cotton almost instantly. Now with my other , more expensive mods, this doesn't happen with those tanks, only on the cheaper mods.

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[jjatl]

Not entirely sure , exactly why this happens. .. in my expensive regulated box mods this never happens, but I have 2 in which it does. I probably have 10 rta's and most of the 510 pins are all of the same lenght but a couple seem to protrude ever so slightly more, when these specific tanks are screwed into either of those two mods, within a few vapes or so, something happens and the cotton will singe. I know it's the lenght of the 510 pin in the tank that's doing it because it never happens with the other tanks. I think these slightly longer pins in the tank, depress the mods spring loaded pin up too much and maybe creates a short? What it feels like is alot of extra power being released which burns the cotton almost instantly. Now with my other , more expensive mods, this doesn't happen with those tanks, only on the cheaper mods.

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When you fire the Mod and the Vape feels overly hot, is it reading the resistance correctly? If it is not reading the resistance correctly it can fire with too much power causing the issues that you are experiencing.

 

[vapdivrr]

When you fire the Mod and the Vape feels overly hot, is it reading the resistance correctly? If it is not reading the resistance correctly it can fire with too much power causing the issues that you are experiencing.

Good call, yes as I look at the resistance, it changes

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[zoiDman]

When you fire the Mod and the Vape feels overly hot, is it reading the resistance correctly? If it is not reading the resistance correctly it can fire with too much power causing the issues that you are experiencing.

Good call, yes as I look at the resistance, it changes

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I have an old IPV Mini that did this.

I would be Vaping alone Nicely on my normal .9 Ohms Coil @ 15 Watts and then Out of the Blue - Wham - Massive Dry Hit.

It took a couple of times to Figure Out that the Resistance the IPV Mini was seeing had jumped from .9 to 3.x Ohms. And when the Mod suddenly sees 3.x Ohms, it Needs to Crank Up the Voltage to maintain the Wattage.

Turns out the Solder Connection on the 510 Connector inside the Mod was Flakey. I Re-Solder it and the Problem seems to have gone away.

 

[vapdivrr]

I have an old IPV Mini that did this.

I would be Vaping alone Nicely on my normal .9 Ohms Coil @ 15 Watts and then Out of the Blue - Wham - Massive Dry Hit.

It took a couple of times to Figure Out that the Resistance the IPV Mini was seeing had jumped from .9 to 3.x Ohms. And when the Mod suddenly sees 3.x Ohms, it Needs to Crank Up the Voltage to maintain the Wattage.

Turns out the Solder Connection on the 510 Connector inside the Mod was Flakey. I Re-Solder it and the Problem seems to have gone away.

That's funny because I used to have an ipv mini and as I remember, it happened on that one also. There must be better connections or something on better mods, for them not to happen on them.

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[zoiDman]

That's funny because I used to have an ipv mini and as I remember, it happened on that one also. There must be better connections or something on better mods, for them not to happen on them.

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I think one of the Biggest Problems (with ALL e-Cigarette Hardware) is the OEM's feels they Need to get as Many Units Sold before their Mod is Cloned. So they try to Crank Out as many as Possible as Quickly as Possible. And when they do this, sometimes Quality can Suffer.

 

[crxess]

Look at the type of pin in each atomizer.

Catch and Twist.

The Mods Center pin, design dependent, may be getting twisted when attaching Tank - damaging Positive wire connection.

Split/adjustable pins tend to act as screwdrivers on Split(airflow) pins.

 

[jambi]

I've had this same issue on a couple of mods, specifically when running an IPV3 with my ....... step child Atty 3 RDA. Also happened occasionally with my Istick and subtank. Highly unpleasant to have resistance jump from .5 to 2.5 during a 50 watt draw.

Quick fix for me was to use a 510 510 adapter, which has the extra bonus of sparing the mod's 510 threads from wear and tear. Don't know why it works, but it does.

 

[herb]

That's funny because I used to have an ipv mini and as I remember, it happened on that one also. There must be better connections or something on better mods, for them not to happen on them.

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Actually no , it happens to expensive mods as well , just something you deal with and some have better luck then others.

 

[defdock]

This is one reason I run mods in voltage mode strictly....

Had this issue for the last week with my mini volt, come to find out the tanks coil was snapped. - it read fine and worked fine on every mod except the mini volt (only runs In watts)

when the Mod suddenly sees 3.x Ohms, it Needs to Crank Up the Voltage to maintain the Wattage

 

[zoiDman]

This is one reason I run mods in voltage mode strictly....

Had this issue for the last week with my mini volt, come to find out the tanks coil was snapped. - it read fine and worked fine on every mod except the mini volt (only runs In watts)

Very Good Point defdock.

 

[crxess]

This is one reason I run mods in voltage mode strictly....

Had this issue for the last week with my mini volt, come to find out the tanks coil was snapped. - it read fine and worked fine on every mod except the mini volt (only runs In watts)

So the mini Volt was the only Mod to let you know there Was an Issue with the Tank

 

[defdock]

So the mini Volt was the only Mod to let you know there Was an Issue with the Tank

The mini was the only mod to relentlessly me off for a week straight. Had just got done recoiling/wicking all my tanks to find out that one tank/battery combo didn't work for the oddest reason.

 

[vapdivrr]

Actually no , it happens to expensive mods as well , just something you deal with and some have better luck then others.

I'm sure it does but I can tell you that it doesn't with any of my authentic dna mods. I have 8 and none of them do it, only the 2 non authentic regulated mods

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[vapdivrr]

So the mini Volt was the only Mod to let you know there Was an Issue with the Tank

I don't think there is an issue with the tank, it's the mod.

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[vapdivrr]

I think one of the Biggest Problems (with ALL e-Cigarette Hardware) is the OEM's feels they Need to get as Many Units Sold before their Mod is Cloned. So they try to Crank Out as many as Possible as Quickly as Possible. And when they do this, sometimes Quality can Suffer.

At least with me, the oem are fine, it's the clone units that I am having the issue with

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[vapdivrr]

I've had this same issue on a couple of mods, specifically when running an IPV3 with my ....... step child Atty 3 RDA. Also happened occasionally with my Istick and subtank. Highly unpleasant to have resistance jump from .5 to 2.5 during a 50 watt draw.

Quick fix for me was to use a 510 510 adapter, which has the extra bonus of sparing the mod's 510 threads from wear and tear. Don't know why it works, but it does.

So what I have seen, and makes sense, is the mod is seeing a resistance increase and increases the wattage and I agree with this, now why is it seeing this resistance increase?

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[zoiDman]

So what I have seen, and makes sense, is the mod is seeing a resistance increase and increases the wattage and I agree with this, now why is it seeing this resistance increase?

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Just My Theory.

When the Connection between the Atty and the Mod is Flakey but still a Connection, the Mod "sees" a Very High Resistance. But since the Resistance that the Mod can Calculate Watts to is Limited, because the Voltage of the Mod is Limited, the Mod sets the Resistance/Voltage to the Highest Value that is Possible.

Instead of the Mod throwing an Error Message saying that the Ohms are "Too High".

I could be Completely Wrong. And this Probably Doesn't apply to Every Mod out there. But that is what I Think my IPV Mini was doing before I Re-Soldered it's 510 Connection Wire.

 

[defdock]

now why is it seeing this resistance increase?

Multitude of possibilities.
Snapped coil, for one. Unstable 510 connection due to poor solder job or weak threads. Loose coil connection. Or even the odd speck of dirt on the positive pin.
Even spring loaded pins are "off" to a varying degree - I can take an istick and screw on/off the tank multiple times to watch the resistance flutter.
Also heating of the coil causes a resistance change, some mods lock the initial value, and others do not so the resistance changes slightly with every puff untill it cools down back to room temp.

 

[vapdivrr]

Multitude of possibilities.
Snapped coil, for one. Unstable 510 connection due to poor solder job or weak threads. Loose coil connection. Or even the odd speck of dirt on the positive pin.
Even spring loaded pins are "off" to a varying degree - I can take an istick and screw on/off the tank multiple times to watch the resistance flutter.
Also heating of the coil causes a resistance change, some mods lock the initial value, and others do not so the resistance changes slightly with every puff untill it cools down back to room temp.

I think in my case it's to do with the Solder job. Because I noticed the 2 tanks that do it have a pin that's ever so slightly longer then my others, it pushes up the spring loaded pin in the mod, thus messes with the solder.

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