sony vtc5 and vamo v5
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VTC5 and vamo V5, could be nothing safer. Plenty of amps to spare with whatever the Vamo demands. Your all good. Plus have great batts if you ever go mechanical too.
Technically, there's a very slim possibility that ANY battery has the potential to explode under the right conditions. All of that stored energy can be released very quickly if the battery goes into failure, or "thermal runaway".
Some batteries are more likely to vent flames or explode when they go into thermal runaway than others, namely ICR (Li-ion) batteries. These are available in protected & unprotected versions. Unprotected ICR batteries should NEVER be used in ANY mod for safety reasons (even in a regulated mod). If you must use an ICR battery, use only the protected version. Just a couple of years ago protected ICR batteries were recommended for mods, but today with newer, better, & safer battery chemistries available they are considered to be obsolete for mod use.
Today, either IMR (Li-Mn) or IMR/hybrid batteries are recommended for all applications in mods. They use a safer chemistry than ICR, do not require built-in protection in the battery, and are actually a higher performance battery which better suit our needs for mod use. They may still vent gas hot enough to cause second degree burns, but should not vent flames or explode like an ICR will.
Your Vamo is a regulated mod which has built-in protective circuitry in the chip. It will automatically recognize a short circuit in your setup which could damage a battery and it will refuse to fire upon request as a safety feature. This auto-protection is not available in a mechanical mod unless a Kick or safety fuse is added.
The Sony VTC series of batteries are an IMR/hybrid battery, so they are safe-chemistry. There will be virtually no possibility that this battery will explode when used in a regulated mod like the Vamo. For more information about mod batteries:
Rechargeable Batteries for Mods
Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?
Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries
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Sony VTC5 batteries that I have seen are flat top batteries. You may need something like:
$0.99 Round Super Strong Rare-Earth Magnets (5-Pack) 5-pack - 5mm*1mm / perfect for use on batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
$0.99 Round Super Strong Rare-Earth Magnets (5-Pack) 5-pack - 5mm*1mm / perfect for use on batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Sony VTC5 batteries that I have seen are flat top batteries. You may need something like:
$0.99 Round Super Strong Rare-Earth Magnets (5-Pack) 5-pack - 5mm*1mm / perfect for use on batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
flat tops work fine in the vamo. I use VTC5 in mine.
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The VTC5 won't be harmed by the Vamo, but it's serious overkill.
Why waste a 30A battery in a mod that's limited to 5A? Go for the 3100mAh purple Efest batteries instead. You'll get the exact same performance with an additional 500mAh of charge.
Why waste a 30A battery in a mod that's limited to 5A? Go for the 3100mAh purple Efest batteries instead. You'll get the exact same performance with an additional 500mAh of charge.
Sony VTC5 batteries that I have seen are flat top batteries. You may need something like:
$0.99 Round Super Strong Rare-Earth Magnets (5-Pack) 5-pack - 5mm*1mm / perfect for use on batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
NO !! Using magnets on flat top batteries is considered to be an unsafe battery practice and is to be avoided. This is considered to be "Not Advisable".
If your device requires button top batteries, then purchase the correct batteries for the job.
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This. I use VTC5's in my mech mod running .2-.5 ohms. That's what they're made for. Although I'm not familiar with the vamo, most electronic mods I've seen keep you from going below like 1 ohm. You could get a cheaper battery with a longer life depending on your build.
Not all of that mAh is in the useful voltage region though. For example, the vtc5 and LG he2 provide more vaping time than the 2900 mAh Panasonic pd/pf at most amp draws. I don't remember the specifics about the 3100 mAh Efest, but the voltage curve wasn't flattering. The vtc5 might actually last longer.
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I'd be very surprised if any battery was specifically designed for vaping.
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Soon there will be enough of us and they will start making batteries, and a bunch of other stuff, for us.
I know what you mean, and I didn't mean to imply that the battery was specifically designed for vaping. .What I meant to say was that it was designed for a low resistance circuit due to the amperage output of the battery. .I guess I should have written that in the vaping world, it is used for low ohm builds.
This is really interesting, and I honestly never thought of looking through voltage curves for different types of batteries. Thanks for the info!
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Check dampfakkus.de. Plenty of tests of different batteries at different amp loads. I find them really interesting, but I'm a nerd
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Technical: Why High Drain Batteries?
I didn't exactly follow everything in the post, but it seemed like it wouldn't be a bad thing to run VTC5s in 15W max mods, I've got 2 that I've been using in a vamo and VTR with no problems
I didn't exactly follow everything in the post, but it seemed like it wouldn't be a bad thing to run VTC5s in 15W max mods, I've got 2 that I've been using in a vamo and VTR with no problems
Define "useful voltage region" in a VOLTAGE REGULATED mod.
There is no voltage drop in a regulated mod. It's the same power being delivered from beginning to end of the charge. The only question is how much charge is available. 3100mAh will provide more charge than 2600mAh.
Regulated voltage devices work until batteries go down to around 3.3-3.4V output, they don't keep going until the batteries are outputting at 0.1V and stop once its 0V, if the battery goes down from its max voltage to 3.3V after only 600mAH and the rest of the mAHs aren't capable of being put out by the vape, then it essentially changes the effective mAH of the battery, thus wanting a flatter voltage discharge curve that puts out more mAh at a usable voltage
edit* My exact numbers may be wrong but the concept still applies
PBusardo has done a lot of testing on batteries and shows their discharge curves which can be seen here
http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/battery-information/
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A battery charge from full until about 3.3v or so, where regulated mods shut off. A large part of the energy is in the below 3.3v region. For example, at a 5 amp draw the vtc5 has 1731 mAh from 4.2-3.3v whereas the new Efest has 1845 mAh (tests at dampfakkus - as a comparison, 1769 mAh for the "35A" Efest [2500 mAh], 1611 mAh for the Samsung 20r [2000 mAh], and 1565 mAh for the Panasonic pf [2900 mAh]). A slight win for the Efest, but not by 500 mAh.
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I have a Kecig K100, but i'm not really interested in sub ohming, I like my ohm to be around 1.4-1.5. I have tried a .8 ohm but the vape was to hot for me. I got the vtc5 because they are great batteries and if my vamo does happen to go out then I don't have to worry about if my resistance is to low when I use my mech mod. And plus $8 for a vtc5 pretty good price.
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