South African Vapers....how are you managing?

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CaveFurby

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With your severe and total ban on e-liquid, cigarettes and alcohol right now...how are you folks making out?
Did you have any idea it would be this severe? Did you have any warning? Really feel bad for you folks down there, and wish there were something we could do. How long is this to last, any idea?
 

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I've seen some videos so I don't know if that's real life or if they're picking out certain videos to make things look a certain way.. I understand Public Health but what I don't understand is how they think forcing people to stay in the small one or two room places with many many many people in one housing unit is going to help. I would think the best thing to do in areas where people live in very small houses with many family members would be to encourage them to not stay in. But I suspect that just like everywhere else they're not trying to protect the poor they're trying to protect the rich. I bet that there's not a lot of rich people that are going without alcohol and nicotine
 

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Life is more important than the economy.
Human life is not sustainable without an economy, at least not at anywhere near the population levels we currently have in most parts of the world. Damage the economy too much and and more people will end up dying of poverty than the virus itself could possibly kill.

You want to hear senseless restrictions: My business has a vendor in South Africa. They got a bunch of stuff packed and ready to ship the day before the lock-down went into effect and then it sat, not allowed to leave the country for weeks.
 

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On a brighter note
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A Cape Town sunset.
The mountains in the skyline is Table Mountain.
 

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The beauty of nature will be there, long after we are gone. That is something to enjoy, I guess.

I'm afraid I am on economy's side, how food and medication and all else are structured today? I'm sorry but no farmer growing food and even if they are essential well guess what ,lacking any job only the government can "hand It out" that tends to not go so well anywhere. Yes I am talking Russia but so many other places as well.

I was told definitively I have COVID and to go to the ER, I will go see my PCP tomorrow. But the ONE wonderful thing about having it is I will walk around the world, a free woman, and infecting no one.

Collapsing of economies (especially when SOME may need some intensive treatment) will lead to more poverty and suffering than COVID ever did and I was sick for about a month before my "downward slide." So as someone with a moderate to severe case (if only due to my smoking history and concerns about that) I will take COIVID 19 3 or 4 times a year than what is GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT WILL and we will be so sorry when it does.

I have never met a person who starved to death say, "I wish I'd had COVID." That is because they are 100% DEAD, not because COVID is incredibly fatal. A PITA, treatment available, vaccines on the way COME ON. COVID people leaving hospitals cured don't say, "Gosh I wish I starved for a LACK of RESOURCES."

COViD is nastier than the flu and in my case lasted longer, but it's only the past couple days I have been really ill, getting a chest X ray tomorrow.

I am glad you are doing "okay" for now. I hope it continues...

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With your severe and total ban on e-liquid, cigarettes and alcohol right now...how are you folks making out?
Did you have any idea it would be this severe? Did you have any warning? Really feel bad for you folks down there, and wish there were something we could do. How long is this to last, any idea?

I have removed my replies. I didn't come to argue so I hope my new replies will attract positive feedback and not debates or arguments.

While people might think. Economic structures are the same all over, the fact remains it's not. Our structure is split and I think in more than two.
There have been looting of bottle stores.
Fake and cigarettes and even illegal cigarette sales happening.
And our ministers says the Ban is and was a success.
Not true. There were studies held by University staff which proved otherwise.
Plus we get to see people doing their thing.
Alcohol sales I'm not sure. A lot more people can survive not drinking here and a lot of them have been brewing their own beverages.
People are addicted and there's no sugar coating it and this makes it hard for many folk out here.people have reverted to smoking tea.
A pack would normally cost R35 (average)
That same pack would now in lockdown cost R250 and people are buying it.

Lucky for me that boat sailed,but family members are having trouble.

I didn't work during lockdown so didn't have any income at all.
And it's getting tougher ,but it's fine. I have God in my life that eases the pain.

So there's good and bad during the lockdown for us and I'm just happy to be alive and well and that my family is still healthy and safe.
 
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