Spock dissed vaping via twitter

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    SleeZy

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    This is a quote from the link This is the dumbest thing I have read in a long time! The problem is the majority of the population has no clue
    how PV's can help smokers quite! drug addicts are given methadone to get off hard drugs and it,s acceptable how are PV's different?
    even if you think it is the lesser of two evils it is the lesser!

    Exactly! But this doesn't benefit the goverment in any way that's their biggest issue.
    The insurance companies can't charge you extra for being a smoker anymore.
    Tax losses
    Everything else is just excuses!
     

    molimelight

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    Someone who tweets should send him the link to this article. The author actually utilizes a formula using probability to determine that a lifetime of tobacco Harm Reduction (THR) is less harmful than one more month of smoking!

    HRJ | Full text | Debunking the claim that abstinence is usually healthier for smokers than switching to a low-risk alternative, and other observations about anti-tobacco-harm-reduction arguments

    "We can estimate that if smokers who are going to eventually cause themselves to die from smoking will smoke an average of 18,000 days, then the average such current smoker has about 9,000 days of smoking ahead of him. (This is would be exactly true if we were in steady-state with respect to smoking and if smokers with fewer days of smoking ahead of them were not more likely to already be doomed. Failures of these assumptions will tend toward canceling out, and the net error seems to be within the limited precision built into the calculation.) Thus, using the conservative simplification above, if the average such smoker switches immediately, he has a 9,000/5×106 ≈ 1/600 chance of dying from Smokeless Tobacco (ST) use. Comparing this to his extra probability of dying from smoking by waiting longer to completely quit, at 1/18,000 chance of causing death per day, shows that this is the equivalent of delaying quitting by about one month. Thus, on average, this smoker only endures greater total risk from using a THR product for the rest of his life if he were going to become abstinent in less than a month."

    Surely Spock would see the logic there! :blink:
     

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    something to remember about all celebrity's more correctly actors,actress and such they are paid to to lie and there stand point can be paid for.
    the only truth to Mr.Neemoy comments is that he wished he quit smoking sooner. the rest could have been paid for by the ANTIZ
     
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    "Because non smokers / youths shouldn't vape for the heck of it imo." - sleezy

    I didn't quote your whole post... wasn't needed.

    I'm kinda scratching my head over this opinion, which seems to be pretty much ECF-standard. So, it's fine for us who used to smoke, but we should oppose anyone "new" from vaping?

    Anyone "new" should not smoke, drink, vape or have unprotected you know what.
    Eat liver and vegies like mama said.
     

    Ken_A

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    something to remember about all celebrity's more correctly actors,actress and such they are paid to to lie and there stand point can be paid for.
    the only truth to Mr.Neemoy comments is that he wished he quit smoking sooner. the rest could have been paid for by the ANTIZ

    More likely just his individual feelings. I hope he takes my last tweet to heart and reads the studies...
     

    emus

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    We should all be so lucky to make 82 years of age with or without COPD.

    Right on. Nimoy is a highly successful few decades smoker. I consider smokers that break 60 w/o serious health issues successful.

    Many vegans don't break 80.

    If warning label said you will develop COPD at 80 we would have lots more smokers.
     

    Robino1

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    Fact: He is 80 years old and what a life he has had!
    Fact: He lived in LA, the smog capitol of the US, and he is 80 years old
    Fact: Most celebrities that smoked in their younger life did so in the LA area, smog capitol of the US

    I wonder why no one is thinking that the smog may have played a big part of his COPD?
     

    KODIAK (TM)

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    We should all be so lucky to make 82 years of age with or without COPD.
    And still appearing in every incarnation of Star Trek since like 1903. :D

    My mother smoked for like 60 years. Died at 88 with COPD. Of course the dementia made quitting easy at 86 because she forgot she ever smoked.
     

    PLANofMAN

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    Fact: He is 80 years old and what a life he has had!
    Fact: He lived in LA, the smog capitol of the US, and he is 80 years old
    Fact: Most celebrities that smoked in their younger life did so in the LA area, smog capitol of the US

    I wonder why no one is thinking that the smog may have played a big part of his COPD?
    See post #21.
     

    Bunnykiller

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    Fact: He is 80 years old and what a life he has had!
    Fact: He lived in LA, the smog capitol of the US, and he is 80 years old
    Fact: Most celebrities that smoked in their younger life did so in the LA area, smog capitol of the US

    I wonder why no one is thinking that the smog may have played a big part of his COPD?

    ;) maybe the smoking kept him alive for 80 yrs in LA counter-reacted the smog that does everyone else in by the age of 78....
    no tellin....
     
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