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I'm really looking forward to vaperev's next shipment, definitely going to have to give this thing a shot.
Square is one of my fav's & is with me every day. Kayfun's are used in rotation. Square is tricky to get setup right. There is a fine line between flooding & dry hits. When gotten right it is a great vape. Kayfiun is tricky to get airflow adjusted right to avoid dry hits.
I've used both the SQuape and the Kayfun extensively. Both have their pluses and minuses. Overall, I'd say the SQuape ekes out the narrowest of victory just due to its ease of use alone.
Both produce a great tasting and full bodied vape. The Kayfun wins this category. I get 3 to 4 days on a cotton wick in the Kayfun, and 2 to 3 days in the SQuape. The Kayfun is such a pain to change the wick and fill compared to the SQuape, that this point alone causes it to fall below the SQuape.
Just my opinion of course
Both produce a great tasting and full bodied vape. The Kayfun wins this category. I get 3 to 4 days on a cotton wick in the Kayfun, and 2 to 3 days in the SQuape. The Kayfun is such a pain to change the wick and fill compared to the SQuape, that this point alone causes it to fall below the SQuape.
Just my opinion of course
The Squape was my first RBA. I got it because it was supposed to be easy to build. Well it IS easy to build. But as others have said, it's tricky to get the wicking just right, and the lack of any airflow adjustment combined with a relatively tight draw doesn't help this at all. I used the Squape as my primary atty for a while but was constantly fiddling with it. Then I got a Russian 91%, built it, and vaped it for over a week straight without doing a darn thing to it except refilling it. Since then I've bought another Russian 91% and two KFL+ (v2s). For me, those atties just work, no muss, no fuss. Yes, unlike a Squape, you can't take 'em apart and put 'em back together without draining them. But I don't have to -- and I much prefer not having to. Now, I use several of my Kayfun-type atties every day, while my Squape is back in its box on a shelf, right next to a Taifun GT, which I only built once and decided it wasn't right for me either. The only thing I've found that I actually like better than a Kayfun-type atty is a bottom-feeder, but that kind of thing has it's own set of issues.
just received a newsletter by stattqualm incl. this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCOL_k3ajS0
Looks fan-friggin-tastic!
And, real quick because I KNOW it's in here somewhere but I can't find it:
Where does one drill to help out the airflow on the current Squape clones? Do you drill vertically down into the airflow hole in the deck (below where the coil sits) or horizontally into the holes in the 510 connection?
And, real quick because I KNOW it's in here somewhere but I can't find it:
Where does one drill to help out the airflow on the current Squape clones? Do you drill vertically down into the airflow hole in the deck (below where the coil sits) or horizontally into the holes in the 510 connection?
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KFL+/Russian 91%: Best flavor of any RBA I've tried. Deck is tricky to learn and kinda fiddly. Difficult to dissamble and toy with your setup once filled makes it annoying to learn. There will be a lot of trial and error with this device until you learn a setup that works with your materials and to your liking, which makes the design very unfriendly in this regard. Easy filling, side air inlet, looks like a million bucks.
SQuape: Flavor CAN be nearly as good KFL+, clouds are about equal (very good). SQuape is dumb easy to build on. The inverted deck allows the channels to act as a guide. Put your microcoil together and set wrapping rod right in the channels. Thumbscrews allow tool-less attachment of legs, though I'd still recommend a screwdriver. The 'difficult' part of the SQuape is simply the wicking. Sometimes your wicks just won't :/, though it's difficult to understand what is different between a working wick and a non-working one. You can dismantle a SQuape while it's still filled and mess or replace your setup. Huge plus for a beginner. It looks kinda ugly in my opinion, but that isn't really a huge factor for me. The two real negatives with a SQuape in comparison to a KFL+ style RBA are kinda big in my opinion. No airflow adjustment and the air inlets seated in the threading of the 510 connector. That's just a terrible design, outdated, and will obviously cause issues with some devices and is just all-around suboptimal. The wicking thing is kinda a mystery, but I think a quirk of the long vertical channels. The wick has to be precisely there at the top to provide capillary action. Simply a little too much, a cut that isn't precisely neat, or not enough and it just won't work right. Again, these differences are so slight to the eye that you just can't discern a difference between something that wicks right and something that doesn't.
So KFL+/Russian is the recommendation even though it is slightly tougher to initially build on. Stattqualm or a cloner will obviously redesign the SQuape in the future with airflow control and side air inlet and then there will be a real contender to the uncontested KFL deck/chamber/channel design.
Edit: Damn Noscript always turning my formatting into a freaking wall of text!
KFL+/Russian 91%: Best flavor of any RBA I've tried. Deck is tricky to learn and kinda fiddly. Difficult to dissamble and toy with your setup once filled makes it annoying to learn. There will be a lot of trial and error with this device until you learn a setup that works with your materials and to your liking, which makes the design very unfriendly in this regard. Easy filling, side air inlet, looks like a million bucks.
SQuape: Flavor CAN be nearly as good KFL+, clouds are about equal (very good). SQuape is dumb easy to build on. The inverted deck allows the channels to act as a guide. Put your microcoil together and set wrapping rod right in the channels. Thumbscrews allow tool-less attachment of legs, though I'd still recommend a screwdriver. The 'difficult' part of the SQuape is simply the wicking. Sometimes your wicks just won't :/, though it's difficult to understand what is different between a working wick and a non-working one. You can dismantle a SQuape while it's still filled and mess or replace your setup. Huge plus for a beginner. It looks kinda ugly in my opinion, but that isn't really a huge factor for me. The two real negatives with a SQuape in comparison to a KFL+ style RBA are kinda big in my opinion. No airflow adjustment and the air inlets seated in the threading of the 510 connector. That's just a terrible design, outdated, and will obviously cause issues with some devices and is just all-around suboptimal. The wicking thing is kinda a mystery, but I think a quirk of the long vertical channels. The wick has to be precisely there at the top to provide capillary action. Simply a little too much, a cut that isn't precisely neat, or not enough and it just won't work right. Again, these differences are so slight to the eye that you just can't discern a difference between something that wicks right and something that doesn't.
So KFL+/Russian is the recommendation even though it is slightly tougher to initially build on. Stattqualm or a cloner will obviously redesign the SQuape in the future with airflow control and side air inlet and then there will be a real contender to the uncontested KFL deck/chamber/channel design.
Edit: Damn Noscript always turning my formatting into a freaking wall of text!
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This is an awesome video. I am perfectly happy with my current Squape. The video makes it appear that the manufacturers have spent a great deal of time, effort and thought into the improvements. While, to this point, I have had no interest in the clones or even a second genuine Squape I will absolutely pull the trigger on this next version. I just hope it is easily ordered and in sufficient quantities that anyone and everyone that chooses to will be able to buy one.
Ain't that the truth. I do not understand how these manufacturers stay in business. They make some product then seem to go dormant for a long time then dribble some more out. I realize it tends to keep demand up but it sure doesn't make for very good cash flow.
Wow, I missed that! Design is too good and the kinda severe minuses were obviously going to be worked out in an update. I feel like Stattqualm is inside my head! This will definitely be the next big thing. Adjustable decks?! Wow. I guess we know why there wasn't a sorta stepping stone vx style update to the SQuape. They were busy developing something that not only resolves the issues of the original SQuape but introduces a lot of 'first' features.
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I anybody interested into the new Squape R(eloaded)? -- if you look at their homepage, they say it will be available this July. For me, it looks very interesting with airflowcontrol, glass and interchangeable decks. I guess - this new atomizer will be a game changer! I hope they will be available early July ;-)
and they're almost up: StattQualm SQuape R[eloaded] Atomiser Kit - Cloud 9 Vaping
I'm eager to see reviews of this. I wanted to like my Squape clone soooo much. But I either got dry hits or (eventual) leaking.
I'm almost positive it's just due to the poor QC on the clone. I keep meaning to dry dremmeling out the air hole. At this point, it wouldn't even bother me if I hash it up, since it's nigh-unusable right now a anyway.
I'm almost positive it's just due to the poor QC on the clone. I keep meaning to dry dremmeling out the air hole. At this point, it wouldn't even bother me if I hash it up, since it's nigh-unusable right now a anyway.
Oh... Shiny COLORFUL things... I'm such a sucker. The sQuape reloaded looks awesome. Glass windows too. Hmm... Maybe authentic tank #3 will need to happen. And then I swear I'm done. I swear.
I've tried the clones enough to know that this thing vapes like a champ when it is manufactured correctly. Fasttech could never get the right suppliers for this one and gave up on carrying it. It will probably be the first authentic atomizer I purchase once available.
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Since I have the V1 Squape I really did not want the new silver one & was a little disappointed that the colors were not available July 5th. But it got me back into my V1 in a big way. Loving it all over again. Now I am really looking forward to the color run so I can use it right next to my V1.
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