Standard Provari or Mini Provari. Suggestions please.

[p.opus]

Hey Guys,

It appears I will be buying a Provari. Believe it or not, my reasoning has nothing to do with vape quality.

I currently have 3 iTaste vv3's and 1 MVP2 and I have vaped a Provari at a local vape shop and quite frankly I can't tell the difference. And even though I prefer variable wattage, I'm still looking to buy a Provari...Why???!!???

With the latest push by the EU to ban e-cig sales, and the push by ANTZ and the FDA to heavily regulate vaping here in the US, I am afraid that the future landscape of vaping may be dominated by proprietary e-cigs and cartridges provided lovingly by Big Tobacco. I also think that once BT has a stranglehold on the market, BT will raise the prices of e-cigs to the point that only the "rich and powerful" will be able to afford them, citing "stiff taxes and FDA quality inspections" as being the reason for the price hike.

While the hollywood elite and hipsters vape their Thousand dollar e-cigs, the rest of us will be forced to go back to the leaf.

I was a slave to Big Tobacoo for many years, I'm not going to let that happen to me again. I am already keeping all my Kanger heads and just bought some wire and wicking material so that I can learn to recoil. I am cutting back on my nicotine consumption to zero so I don't pay the Tobacco Use Surcharge my health insurance will try to stick me with. I will be learning to make my own zero nic e-juice using PG/VG and food flavorings.

My final plan involves not having to rely on "disposable" e-cig batteries in case these devices are no longer available.

Thus the Provari. These devices are damn near indestructable, from what I understand, and they use standard LiIon batteries that have other commercial uses outside of e-cigs, so the FDA can't touch me there.

What model of Provari do you guys prefer, the Mini or Standard. I know the standard will give longer vape time. But I kind of like the smaller size of the mini.

Is there any compelling reason to choose one over the other? Are batteries for one more plentiful than the other?

Thanks for your input, I look forward to your opinions so I can order one from Provape while I still can....

 

[EvilZoe]

A Mini with an extender cap will give you the capacity for a larger battery and you still have the option of going smaller if you like. You can even get another extender to use along with the extender cap and use 18650s in it.

 

[Ozwald]

Based on your reasons for getting one, I'd agree with Zoe & not just because she'll whip me with the Cat-o-Nine again ... on second thought maybe I should... nevermind, irrelevant.

If you get the mini, there are a few choices to bump it all the way up to a 650, Tatroe for example. You could have the option to run 350's, 490's or 650's depending on what you have available. The regular size with an extender cap will only allow you to use the 490's & 650's, not the 350's. You may want to consider getting the "pass-through" as well. It removes the battery from the equation. It basically is an insert that replaces the battery & end cap, allowing you to plug it into the wall direct... until Big Brother decides to ban electricity because some idiot gets electrocuted by sticking a fork in the socket... oh, hi Kali... didn't see you there.

 

[Train2]

That literally is the only difference - do you want to run the "good for a handful of hours" 18350's with a really compact device?
That, or perhaps you have an aesthetic preference for the teardrops vs. the "crop circles".
Performance and features are identical.
Me, I couldn't decide either, so I got one of each.

 

[SirSteve]

Size wise a standard ProVari with the 18500 is about a 1/4 taller that my Sigelei Zmax mini with an 18350, with the 18650 extension the ProVari is about 3/4 of an inch taller the Sig Zmax mini. My point is the ProVari is already shorter than many other devices, so I don't think you can go wrong either way. Of course EvilZoe and Ozwald have very good points.

Really can't go wrong no matter what you do, I will say 18350 don't hold much of a charge, so if you go that way, plan on changing batteries more often. If you carry batteries with you, I would highly recommend using a plastic battery case. Best to you.

 

[p.opus]

Based on your reasons for getting one, I'd agree with Zoe & not just because she'll whip me with the Cat-o-Nine again ... on second thought maybe I should... nevermind, irrelevant.

If you get the mini, there are a few choices to bump it all the way up to a 650, Tatroe for example. You could have the option to run 350's, 490's or 650's depending on what you have available. The regular size with an extender cap will only allow you to use the 490's & 650's, not the 350's. You may want to consider getting the "pass-through" as well. It removes the battery from the equation. It basically is an insert that replaces the battery & end cap, allowing you to plug it into the wall direct... until Big Brother decides to ban electricity because some idiot gets electrocuted by sticking a fork in the socket... oh, hi Kali... didn't see you there.

I've thought about that, but the passthrough is pretty pricey and while it appears that I am acting paranoid, my question is do any of these batteries have any possibility of being discontinued or are they industry standard.

Does anyone know what other "industrial" uses these batteries have? Are they a common standard that will continue to be used indefinitely (like AA, D etc...) or are they really specialized power packs that the "e-cig" market is keeping "alive" because the industry has moved to another form factor?

 

[Baditude]

The 18650 battery is the most common and plentiful battery for mods. Both the standard and mini require button top "high drain" batteries, which include the IMR and hybrid chemistry (not protected ICR li-ion batteries).

 

[Ozwald]

The pass through isn't cheap, but if your concerns are real I would consider it worth every penny.

The batteries are used in the high-end flashlight market, I'm sure there are others, but I couldn't name them off the top of my head. Either way, they are not exclusive to the vaping market, but I would bet there's a lot more of them being used by folks like us than in any other. So if e-cigs do 'go down' they demand will follow as will the production.

 

[fleur_de_lis-in-FL]

Does anyone know what other "industrial" uses these batteries have? Are they a common standard that will continue to be used indefinitely (like AA, D etc...) or are they really specialized power packs that the "e-cig" market is keeping "alive" because the industry has moved to another form factor?

Some of the batteries are used in flashlights.

 

[Thrasher]

The pass through isn't cheap, but if your concerns are real I would consider it worth every penny.

The batteries are used in the high-end flashlight market, I'm sure there are others, but I couldn't name them off the top of my head. Either way, they are not exclusive to the vaping market, but I would bet there's a lot more of them being used by folks like us than in any other. So if e-cigs do 'go down' they demand will follow as will the production.

head over to the flashlight forums, as small as vaping is right now, they wouldnt notice if we stooped using them too much.


as for the op Originally i would say get the full size with extention cap but with all the addon rings for the mini now you can have all 3 sizes.

 

[Train2]

the Tesla.
Powered by six thousand eight hundred thirty-one 18650 batteries.

I've thought about that, but the passthrough is pretty pricey and while it appears that I am acting paranoid, my question is do any of these batteries have any possibility of being discontinued or are they industry standard.

Does anyone know what other "industrial" uses these batteries have? Are they a common standard that will continue to be used indefinitely (like AA, D etc...) or are they really specialized power packs that the "e-cig" market is keeping "alive" because the industry has moved to another form factor?

 

[Ozwald]

the Tesla.
Powered by six thousand eight hundred thirty-one 18650 batteries.

2 words. Hyper Loop.

 

[Ladiekali]

until Big Brother decides to ban electricity because some idiot gets electrocuted by sticking a fork in the socket... oh, hi Kali... didn't see you there.

No that was last time, next time im trying a runcible spoon, just gotta find one!

As far as size, i perfer the larger provari to my mini, but if i had to choose one, id go with the larger for the all day battery life, or id do like zoe says, get the mini, with the extender cap and have the best of both worlds!

 

[Ozwald]

No that was last time, next time im trying a runcible spoon, just gotta find one!

As far as size, i perfer the larger provari to my mini, but if i had to choose one, id go with the larger for the all day battery life, or id do like zoe says, get the mini, with the extender cap and have the best of both worlds!

With the newer aftermarket caps the mini is more versatile though. With the full, you can't use the smallest battery, just the larger 2. With the mini & the aftermarket extension rings you can use all 3. And I agree, the runcible spoon might prove more effective. Make sure it's authentic silver though. The plating just can't handle the extra current.

 

[Ladiekali]

I guess it all depends on your cash flow and what you have to spend. I bought both. But i wanted two.
I thought of just going for the mini and getting the extension cap.
But the big P was calling me. Loove me, loove me i need a home. I will be good to you and treat you right.
How can you say no to that?

 

[Topwater Elvis]

The mini without the extension cap is too mini for my hands.
The standard size is a good fit, with extension cap = perfect size for me.

 

[Thrasher]

the Tesla.
Powered by six thousand eight hundred thirty-one 18650 batteries.

----- Bursting into flames every chance they get lol -----------

 

[Ozwald]

The mini without the extension cap is too mini for my hands.
The standard size is a good fit, with extension cap = perfect size for me.

My mini has never had the regular cap on it either. I don't have any 650's, so I can't speak to that, but I definitely wouldn't want anything smaller than a mini + extension (ever so slightly smaller than the regular). But considering the OP's stated concerns I would still recommend it since it still has more options if SHTF. For example if an alien race of giant one-eyed Chihuahua's descends on the planet, eats all the 490's & 650's, with the regular sized you're screwed. Twice. Once for having no batteries & twice for having to dodge large electrified turds that will be scattered across the ground. But if you have a mini, you can still vape with the 350's since nothing else is available. Big picture.

 

[qorax]

Hey Guys,

It appears I will be buying a Provari. Believe it or not, my reasoning has nothing to do with vape quality...

Is there any compelling reason to choose one over the other? Are batteries for one more plentiful than the other?... I look forward to your opinions so I can order one from Provape while I still can....

Given your own perfect reasoning and logic ~ I'd opine GET BOTH! If not at one go - one at a time!

I was in your same shoes a few days back... chose the Standard with an extender cap... purely b'coz I'm used to vaping with 18500 & 18650s. Five days into it I now know that I need both! Why? B'coz I find the Provari, as everyone foretold, is frugal on batteries! Thus, even an 18350 could run a distance with it as never before!

As such, it really could be handy when up-n-about... b'coz, I get it, now! It will run my day with just one (or max two) additional spare 18350s in my pocket!

Which is why - let the dust settle a bit - and I'm getting one more ~ the P-Mini this time√

 

[p.opus]

But the big P was calling me. Loove me, loove me i need a home. I will be good to you and treat you right.
How can you say no to that?

That's what I'm afraid of. My new addiction to buying vape gear is being fueled by my paranoia that the e-cig will be eliminated overnight.

I already have 4 completely capable batteries. 3 itaste vv3's and 1 MVP. As I said before while I love the quality of the Provari and it's ability to use standard batteries, I really can't detect a difference in vape quality.

My shopping bug is fueling my paranoia which in turn is fueling my shopping bug, which in turn.........

Well, like my mamma used to say, I'm gonna have to sleep on it.