Vapor4life also used to have different levels of pg/vg in their ejuices....not sure if they still do....I will go and look, see.
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The biggest hurdle is getting the equipment that suits you that does not need charging every couple of hours like a cigalike. Some people are real sensitive to pg, so at least finding a flavor with more vg would be a start. I have the opposite problem I can't handle high vg it makes my lungs ache. Check out the site sugar and spice linked to. Don't give up it will be worth it in the long run even with some of the hassles along the way.
Some of their ejuices in a bottle are 25 pg/75 vg such as this peach. There are many other flavors also. And its offered in many different nic strengthsVapor4life also used to have different levels of pg/vg in their ejuices....not sure if they still do....I will go and look, see.
This juice can be used to fill their blank cartridges.
Peach e Juice (30 mL)
Not sure where you have been purchasing your stuff but shopping online is the way to go, pricing at local vape stores is expensive.
I'm in the U.K. and vapor4life doesn't seem easily available here. I'll look for something similar online.
I haven't found the small cig-a-like batteries to be a problem. They last me for almost the whole day. But if I have to try cartridges from another brand or buy a tank, they won't fit the batteries I have so I'll have to buy a new kit.
I haven't found the small cig-a-like batteries to be a problem. They last me for almost the whole day. But if I have to try cartridges from another brand or buy a tank, they won't fit the batteries I have so I'll have to buy a new kit.
They are proprietary and can't be interchanged for the most part.
I will say that my getting up and vaping (and using RTAs and DIY e-liquid) was WAY more expensive than smoking at first, and somewhat littered with unsuitable gear (for me). I also, once I got vaping working for me like any good addict made sure I was as stocked up and prepared as I could be with things I like (including nic in the freezer) as it's cheaper and more available NOW than it may be in the future. Perhaps I over prepared, but I'm fine with that.
With that said, the entire cost of my vaping "collection" cost less than: time off work for respiratory problems, the effort of quitting in and of itself, less than the cost of my inhalers, less than the cost of my meds to treat my smoking related illnesses, and etc.
I will also point out that my health costs would have INCREASED exponentially the more I smoked. I was smoking 3 ppd and the only reason that my vape collection (which is extensive) didn't cost me more than tobacco is that me and the husband have used an injector machine, buying bulk tobacco on the reservation, so no taxes and tubes. Smoking was comparatively cheap, and I was always looking for "cheap" ways to fuel my addiction.
Equally, I try to get the "best deals" (usually online, around holidays) and my costs have fallen dramatically. I have one gear here, and enough juice to last me a lifetime almost, in one giveaway (or so it feels). My costs have fallen off drastically and I expect that to continue.
I WILL say that my healthcare costs have gone down and I have NO worries moving forward about COPD although it's still possible a smoking related illness may grab me, but at this point (counting healthcare costs) it's hard for me to think that I have not come out even or ahead. Because nothing is more expensive than COPD until death, in real dollars and also cost of life.
It's worth your time to invest in a starter setup, even if you keep the cigalike as a backup. It's worth learning more about e-cigs so that you can succeed and find the best setups for you. You don't have to do it all at once.
I vaped through starting with a DL sub0hm setup which is not my style of vaping. I figured out and corrected a PG allergy, and I have an alternative (PEG400) to use in my DIY juices, merely because max VG even with some distilled water generates crazy clouds. I discovered all these things as I made progress and was ultimately successful..
I don't regret a minute learning about vaping, and I do not regret One Single Dime. Nor does my husband actually, we're both getting older and we'd like to die peacefully in bed, not the ICU. My husband only tried vaping again because he saw I was successful.
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I will say that my getting up and vaping (and using RTAs and DIY e-liquid) was WAY more expensive than smoking at first, and somewhat littered with unsuitable gear (for me). I also, once I got vaping working for me like any good addict made sure I was as stocked up and prepared as I could be with things I like (including nic in the freezer) as it's cheaper and more available NOW than it may be in the future. Perhaps I over prepared, but I'm fine with that.
With that said, the entire cost of my vaping "collection" cost less than: time off work for respiratory problems, the effort of quitting in and of itself, less than the cost of my inhalers, less than the cost of my meds to treat my smoking related illnesses, and etc.
I will also point out that my health costs would have INCREASED exponentially the more I smoked. I was smoking 3 ppd and the only reason that my vape collection (which is extensive) didn't cost me more than tobacco is that me and the husband have used an injector machine, buying bulk tobacco on the reservation, so no taxes and tubes. Smoking was comparatively cheap, and I was always looking for "cheap" ways to fuel my addiction.
Equally, I try to get the "best deals" (usually online, around holidays) and my costs have fallen dramatically. I have one gear here, and enough juice to last me a lifetime almost, in one giveaway (or so it feels). My costs have fallen off drastically and I expect that to continue.
I WILL say that my healthcare costs have gone down and I have NO worries moving forward about COPD although it's still possible a smoking related illness may grab me, but at this point (counting healthcare costs) it's hard for me to think that I have not come out even or ahead. Because nothing is more expensive than COPD until death, in real dollars and also cost of life.
It's worth your time to invest in a starter setup, even if you keep the cigalike as a backup. It's worth learning more about e-cigs so that you can succeed and find the best setups for you. You don't have to do it all at once.
I vaped through starting with a DL sub0hm setup which is not my style of vaping. I figured out and corrected a PG allergy, and I have an alternative (PEG400) to use in my DIY juices, merely because max VG even with some distilled water generates crazy clouds. I discovered all these things as I made progress and was ultimately successful..
I don't regret a minute learning about vaping, and I do not regret One Single Dime. Nor does my husband actually, we're both getting older and we'd like to die peacefully in bed, not the ICU. My husband only tried vaping again because he saw I was successful.
Anna
I had exactly the same experience about a month after I quit the cigs for vaping. Advice I found was to drink hot sugary tea. I vape like I smoked, 5 minutes and I am done for an hour or more. After about 36 hours, the sore throat was gone and never came back. That was 6 months ago.
Good luck.
Good luck.
The coil getting too hot, if that is happening, is mainly because with small devices the tendency is to run at maximum for more impressive output. Slight burning of the coil every hit will cause it to keep getting worse and an acrid flavor. What I get with all my smaller devices is flavor reaches maximum a second or two in and then progresses towards getting a bit dry and hot. With a battery unit with a button, letting go of the button for 1/2 second can allow one to keep vaping and control the temperature.
I had the same problems and even quit vaping for over a year. I didn't worry about quitting cigs at all at first, vaping was an almost unrelated pleasure. Then I still smoked early and late in the day. It does help if dual using to not switch back and forth constantly. After 2 months, the smoking reduction to about half began to improve my throat, as well as my ability to taste vapor.
If you truly can't do PG, VG can be used with some distilled water to thin it, but if anything I have more problems with VG and small devices, especially older designs, have trouble with wicking thick VG. Flavor is also poor, or requires more flavoring.
The best option now for small, high nicotine devices is to use Nicotine Salts e-juice in an open device, or the Juul which is the size of a cig, shaped different and made Salts popular.
I had the same problems and even quit vaping for over a year. I didn't worry about quitting cigs at all at first, vaping was an almost unrelated pleasure. Then I still smoked early and late in the day. It does help if dual using to not switch back and forth constantly. After 2 months, the smoking reduction to about half began to improve my throat, as well as my ability to taste vapor.
If you truly can't do PG, VG can be used with some distilled water to thin it, but if anything I have more problems with VG and small devices, especially older designs, have trouble with wicking thick VG. Flavor is also poor, or requires more flavoring.
The best option now for small, high nicotine devices is to use Nicotine Salts e-juice in an open device, or the Juul which is the size of a cig, shaped different and made Salts popular.
With all due respect, I think buying juice from the internet, especially as someone new to vaping, is a HUGE mistake. You may find the juice you got not to be to your liking, and that can discourage someone who is trying to quit smoking.
It might be the vanilla. That was my experience in general. Even now years later Vanilla is my all-time favorite flavor and I have a hard time with it because some of the vanillas really dry me out and some of the vanilla ones even made my throat close which scared the crap out of me. I use mainly VG - they are either billed as 100% VG or high VG but the flavorings do have some PG so even 100% VG is not really 100%. At first, I thought it was the PG and then I figured it could not be because I have other flavors that have some PG in them. I now use tanks and refill and by now i know which ones do not irritate me. Maybe try another flavor by them just to see if that is the cause. If you still get that same feeling and if their juices are mainly PG as someone mentioned then try another vendor that offers higher VG content.
You have probably heard this alot - but the tanks are better. I started with the cigarette like vapes at first and fairly quickly graduated to tanks. Many are now top fill so you just unscrew the cap and refill as needed and when the coil has to be changed it screws in on the bottom. Something to think about. In the long run, it is way cheaper too and let's you use whatever ejuice you want.
You have probably heard this alot - but the tanks are better. I started with the cigarette like vapes at first and fairly quickly graduated to tanks. Many are now top fill so you just unscrew the cap and refill as needed and when the coil has to be changed it screws in on the bottom. Something to think about. In the long run, it is way cheaper too and let's you use whatever ejuice you want.
It seems impossible to find out the ingredients in eliquid. The only one I can find is V2 and only for one type (pre-filled). I can see that vanilla is in all sorts of flavours, not just 'vanilla'. It's even the top ingredient in their coffee flavour. So it's hard for me to rule out if it's this flavouring causing this throat pain.
I would try a tank but I can't work out if they will fit onto my V2 classic batteries. I did visit a vape shop once but they won't allow people to try things out so I don't think it would be any cheaper than buying through trial and error online.
I would try a tank but I can't work out if they will fit onto my V2 classic batteries. I did visit a vape shop once but they won't allow people to try things out so I don't think it would be any cheaper than buying through trial and error online.
V2 used to use 808 threaded devices don't know of it's the same now, very few companies use that anymore. 510 is pretty much the standard thread...if you want different equip to work together. They do that to keep you buying only from them. If you want to keep vaping I would suggest a different setup. My first order from v2 was about 250.00 a month and I learned real quick it could be done cheaper especially after I started reading ECF. I tried quite a few online juices and it was way more expensive back then just checked v2 site an saw 50ml van for 29.95 that's still way too much. There are many good and cheaper sites to try nowadays.
@Ripply - here is my suggestion for you.
This is simple - yet provides you some measure of control over how much power you put to your coil so you don't end up overheating it and burning your juice.
This also provides you the ability to use your own ejuice and dial in the right amount of nicotine and pg that is good for your throat.
So here goes :
Aspire CF-VV+ (Variable Voltage) 1000mAh Battery - Creme de Vape
The above is variable voltage, so if you think the vape is too hot you can turn it down, or if too cool you can turn it up. Very simple to use.
Here is the charging cable that goes with it as it is sold separately from the battery
Aspire 510 500mA USB Charger - Creme de Vape
Here below is a very good atomizer that is bottom fill, doesn't leak and has great flavor, not only that but it will fit perfectly on the aspire battery.
Aspire Nautilus Mini - Creme de Vape
That you will need to replace the coils in it around once every 7 days.. it's very simple, just unscrew the old coil and screw in the new to the base - link:
Aspire Nautilus & K3 BVC Heads - 5pk - Creme de Vape
Either coil, either the 1.6 or the 1.8 is fine. I would choose the 1.6 if I were to recommend one.
You will want an ejuice that is higher in VG than what your currently using.
Apple Strudel MAX VG by Creme de Vape - 10ml - 6mg - Creme de Vape
They claim their max vg juice is about a 70vg/30pg mix and this will vape and wick in the Nautilus mini tank... perhaps not as well as a higher pg juice, but I've personally done it before without problem as I have a pg allergy and a Nautilus mini tank.
A desert flavor like the Apple strudel or the coffee walnut cake vapes well (although ive never tried ejuice from creme de vape before) and doesn't have a lot of acidity that would be harsh on your throat.
All of that comes in a kit but creme de vape no longer sells it as a kit. However, if you order from FastTech and have the patience to wait for the slow boat from China, then you will save money. Link:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.fasttech.com/p/amp/1969400
Either that or you can look for the premium kit at another UK vape shop and see if they have any. ..
This is slightly more complicated - you have to fill the tank with juice and change you coils, but it's easy - anyone can learn it and get into the habit, this is the simplest device that allows you to control the things you really need to be able to control out there... and it's not a bad price overall, especially compared to cigarettes... after the initial start up costs you only have to worry about coil replacement (2.00 a week) and whatever your ejuice cost is..the battery should last around one year, maybe a little longer. I do recommend you buying two batteries so you can vape one while the other battery is charging though. ..
I hope this helps you some... good luck to you.
This is simple - yet provides you some measure of control over how much power you put to your coil so you don't end up overheating it and burning your juice.
This also provides you the ability to use your own ejuice and dial in the right amount of nicotine and pg that is good for your throat.
So here goes :
Aspire CF-VV+ (Variable Voltage) 1000mAh Battery - Creme de Vape
The above is variable voltage, so if you think the vape is too hot you can turn it down, or if too cool you can turn it up. Very simple to use.
Here is the charging cable that goes with it as it is sold separately from the battery
Aspire 510 500mA USB Charger - Creme de Vape
Here below is a very good atomizer that is bottom fill, doesn't leak and has great flavor, not only that but it will fit perfectly on the aspire battery.
Aspire Nautilus Mini - Creme de Vape
That you will need to replace the coils in it around once every 7 days.. it's very simple, just unscrew the old coil and screw in the new to the base - link:
Aspire Nautilus & K3 BVC Heads - 5pk - Creme de Vape
Either coil, either the 1.6 or the 1.8 is fine. I would choose the 1.6 if I were to recommend one.
You will want an ejuice that is higher in VG than what your currently using.
Apple Strudel MAX VG by Creme de Vape - 10ml - 6mg - Creme de Vape
They claim their max vg juice is about a 70vg/30pg mix and this will vape and wick in the Nautilus mini tank... perhaps not as well as a higher pg juice, but I've personally done it before without problem as I have a pg allergy and a Nautilus mini tank.
A desert flavor like the Apple strudel or the coffee walnut cake vapes well (although ive never tried ejuice from creme de vape before) and doesn't have a lot of acidity that would be harsh on your throat.
All of that comes in a kit but creme de vape no longer sells it as a kit. However, if you order from FastTech and have the patience to wait for the slow boat from China, then you will save money. Link:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.fasttech.com/p/amp/1969400
Either that or you can look for the premium kit at another UK vape shop and see if they have any. ..
This is slightly more complicated - you have to fill the tank with juice and change you coils, but it's easy - anyone can learn it and get into the habit, this is the simplest device that allows you to control the things you really need to be able to control out there... and it's not a bad price overall, especially compared to cigarettes... after the initial start up costs you only have to worry about coil replacement (2.00 a week) and whatever your ejuice cost is..the battery should last around one year, maybe a little longer. I do recommend you buying two batteries so you can vape one while the other battery is charging though. ..
I hope this helps you some... good luck to you.
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Welcome and glad you joined.
I hear you. Suggest you do your own research to find e liquid with maximum VG. I would get one bottle of zero nic just to see if (who's ever) nic is the problem.
Just to give you an example - a few weeks ago I ordered a sample pack of flavorings from VapeWild. Those are small flavor bottles that you use to make your own juice or perk up existing juice. Very concentrated. Purchased a sampler pack and added some creamy vanilla to one of my juices. Throat closed. Tried again - same thing. So then I tried all of the the other flavors, Caramel candy, Bavarian dream. RY4Life, Cinnamon, Butterscotch and all of them were fine.
Tried Creamy vanilla again - throat closed.
I've tried a lot of different vanillas - many agree with me that Vanilla is a hard flavor to perfect and I think there are a lot additives that are drying or irritating.
I am not a real sensitive person and do not have known allergies but I know many of the vanillas out there bother me.
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Maybe @Ripply should post in the UK area of the forum to ask questions. Maybe he/she can find locals to help him/her out.
I believe the sore throat is due to the strength of nicotine with chain-vaping.
A new modern setup will be your best experience to vaping these days. An easy setup for you that I can suggest is the joyetech penguin. But I know you want to stick to a small/cig-a-like form, so, I would suggest a Phix or even an Aspire Breeze.
I believe the sore throat is due to the strength of nicotine with chain-vaping.
A new modern setup will be your best experience to vaping these days. An easy setup for you that I can suggest is the joyetech penguin. But I know you want to stick to a small/cig-a-like form, so, I would suggest a Phix or even an Aspire Breeze.
I can't vape vanilla (and I've tried different ones) they make me hoarse. No idea what it is, but it makes me rather aversive to that "vanilla" taste. I don't use it in DIY at all....
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