I think this issue would be easily solved if the flavoring came separate in a little cloth envelope with a string. Then when you receive your liquid you drop your flavor envelope in and steep it. 
Steep is the wrong word
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what temp did you bring it up to... and for how long?
145 to 165. For milk - just a few minutes. For mushroom substrate (horse crap and straw) about 2 hrs. Seems to fit.
Oh no. I treat my juice like horse crap.
I totally understand what you are saying. I never have liked the term "analog". But what it really boils down to is use the word you think is appropriate. Let others use what they feel comfortable with. Either way we all know what the poster is talking about. My son is always correcting me and I tell him he's a control freak and to mind his own business. But I will admit that 9 out of 10 times he is 100% correct.
I think this issue would be easily solved if the flavoring came separate in a little cloth envelope with a string. Then when you receive your liquid you drop your flavor envelope in and steep it.
Brilliant!
Ahem... Aging is even more incorrect then steeping.
It's all about diffusion--chemically speaking--which is actually closer to steeping than aging.
Here's the best explanation I've read to date--by our resident experts on the subject:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ask-veterans/158262-steeping-explanation.html#post2594434
So yeah, it's perfectly OK to steep our eliquids.
Are we speaking steep as in "steep your teabags in boiling water"? I'm lost in this subject of steeping...newby here! I fill, wait, draw, and then fire....Am I right or wrong?
Ahem... Aging is even more incorrect then steeping.
It's all about diffusion--chemically speaking--which is actually closer to steeping than aging.
Here's the best explanation I've read to date--by our resident experts on the subject:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ask-veterans/158262-steeping-explanation.html#post2594434
So yeah, it's perfectly OK to steep our eliquids.
aging is the proper term.... have you ever heard the term steep used in the "flavor enhancement " of wine? Wine is aged.... its a liquid with no solids to extract flavor from.
Ejuice is not wine. You don't make wine by dissolving wine flavoring concentrate in PG or VG or water.
Please read Kurt's explanation I linked above--he's a chemist.
Diffusion is the term you want.
But if you want to call it aging, by all means, go ahead.
Steeping tea in water below boiling is correct ( ask any tea guru 160-170ish I believe is the correct temp range). What you are doing is enjoying your juice as soon as you wish.
Some juices gain the benefit of aging a bit before being used, it allows the flavors to mature, develope into something different than from what it was when mixed. Altho, there are juices that go south when left to sit too long ( the same length of time it takes others to get better). and the hilighted text is why I would like to see the community not use the word "steep" .... it can confuse the new members of the group....
Ejuice is not wine. You don't make wine by dissolving wine flavoring concentrate in PG or VG or water.
Please read Kurt's explanation I linked above--he's a chemist.
Diffusion is the term you want.
But if you want to call it aging, by all means, go ahead.
I will accept your terms if you replace steep for diffusion/diffuse when you talk about your fluid... deal??
I just read the link above.... not too much of an explanation by either as to what "steeping" is. more of how they do "it"...
I think it's cool that you're trying to get people to "use the correct term" but something to keep in mind is that the English language is a living language. It's constantly changing, evolving with each generation and even sub culture.
I'm cool with people using steeping in place of aging or diffusing. I'm cool with people using "ma" in place of mAH.
You'll note I misused the word cool several times, after all I wasn't referring to the temperature.
I found this link
Age - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Full Definition of AGE
intransitive verb
1
: to become old : show the effects or the characteristics of increasing age
2
: to acquire a desirable quality (as mellowness or ripeness) by standing undisturbed for some time <letting cheese age>
Age - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Full Definition of AGE
intransitive verb
1
: to become old : show the effects or the characteristics of increasing age
2
: to acquire a desirable quality (as mellowness or ripeness) by standing undisturbed for some time <letting cheese age>
The meaning of words changes over time, one example being the world "girl". In the 14th century, it referred to children of both genders.
A look at earlier definitions of grill, gay and cloud chaser show just how much a word or phrase can change in it's meaning.
Steeping outside of the ecig community may have a specific historical meaning, while steeping within this community has a broadened or expanded meaning. What may seem to be misuse on the surface is just an infant industry adopting existing terminology. With frequent use, the words and their meaning become common and understood. This process, semantic change, is a normal part of our ever evolving language.
"Broadening is the change in the meaning of a word by expansion, so that the word is applicable in more contexts than it previously was and means more than it previously did." Semantic Changes - The English Language
Another topic of frequent complaint is the phrase electronic cigarette. It may not be electronic or a cigarette, it's not in the dictionary (yet), but it is commonly used. Many have tried to force a more precise term on the community, but that's another battle which I don't think will be won.
A look at earlier definitions of grill, gay and cloud chaser show just how much a word or phrase can change in it's meaning.
Steeping outside of the ecig community may have a specific historical meaning, while steeping within this community has a broadened or expanded meaning. What may seem to be misuse on the surface is just an infant industry adopting existing terminology. With frequent use, the words and their meaning become common and understood. This process, semantic change, is a normal part of our ever evolving language.
"Broadening is the change in the meaning of a word by expansion, so that the word is applicable in more contexts than it previously was and means more than it previously did." Semantic Changes - The English Language
Another topic of frequent complaint is the phrase electronic cigarette. It may not be electronic or a cigarette, it's not in the dictionary (yet), but it is commonly used. Many have tried to force a more precise term on the community, but that's another battle which I don't think will be won.
There is this guy I know and his signature/banner states...
Be the change you wish to see in this world....
Im trying to be that person to make the change....
His signature is more than just several words strung together....
Be the change you wish to see in this world....
Im trying to be that person to make the change....
His signature is more than just several words strung together....
its not aging either.
some blends need time to settle out the residual air
and literally let the chemicals get closer together
creating a more homogeneous mixture.
regards
mike
aging in wine is primarily caused by its storage over
time in a select medium(wood casks primarily) before
it is bottled for sale. chemical reactions between the
wood and wine impart certain characteristics to the
wine.
most wine is not aged. its bottled for immediate sale
as it is assumed 90% will be consumed in the first
year and 99% within the first 5 years.
wine deteriorates over time. with proper storage however
it can retain its original characteristics with little or no
change. this depends on a lot of factors to numerous
to mention. in the end its suffice to say there are some
good old bottles of wine not necessarily vintages of wine.
one doesn't know until the cork is removed.
regards
mike
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