Steep is the wrong word

[Str8vision]

Aging is the most common process employed by members of our community to achieve diffusion. If you let juice sit for a prolonged period of time you aren't "steeping" you're "aging" it in order to diffuse the flavor components. Steeping requires solids, I "steep" tobacco macerations in order to extract flavor, I then "age" the filtered extract to diffuse it.

 

[skoony]

Aging is the most common process employed by members of our community to achieve diffusion. If you let juice sit for a prolonged period of time you aren't "steeping" you're "aging" it in order to diffuse the flavor components. Steeping requires solids, I "steep" tobacco macerations in order to extract flavor, I then "age" the filtered extract to diffuse it.

ageing is not a process of diffusion in terms of
how most people think of the term. in the case
of juice its just the amount of time required before
diffusion ceases or slows to a point of being negligible.
unlike wine,cheese or meat where it has a different
connotation.
regards
mike

 

[Charming]

Thanks to all for my best laugh of the day! Today, I received several new juices which I quickly shook, aired for a bit, then stored in my special vape box. I don't know if the juice is steeping, ageing, diffusing or harmonizing, but I do know that in about one week it will be liquid Nirvana.

For what it's worth, I never think of myself as ageing, steeping or diffusing, though I may be doing all those things; In my mind I'm just pure vintage!

 

[Katya]

Thanks to all for my best laugh of the day! Today, I received several new juices which I quickly shook, aired for a bit, then stored in my special vape box. I don't know if the juice is steeping, ageing, diffusing or harmonizing, but I do know that in about one week it will be liquid Nirvana.

For what it's worth, I never think of myself as ageing, steeping or diffusing, though I may be doing all those things; In my mind I'm just pure vintage!

It's all been said here (the thread linked earlier by Rick). Really!

Hilarious read, BTW. Highly recommended.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hanging-term-steeping-aging.html#post10930052

 

[Robino1]

It's all been said here (the thread linked earlier by Rick). Really!

Hilarious read, BTW. Highly recommended.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hanging-term-steeping-aging.html#post10930052

I really miss some of those names in that thread. It was quite fun though

 

[Katya]

I really miss some of those names in that thread. It was quite fun though

I miss them too...

I loved that thread...

 

[Bunnykiller]

ageing is not a process of diffusion in terms of
how most people think of the term. in the case
of juice its just the amount of time required before
diffusion ceases or slows to a point of being negligible.
unlike wine,cheese or meat where it has a different
connotation.
regards
mike

odd... one ages wine cheese meat to make it taste better.... so why not age our liquid to make it taste better

 

[jcco]

Silly me, I always thought of it as to mature. Surely that's been covered too. Ha.

 

[Charming]

It's all been said here (the thread linked earlier by Rick). Really!

Hilarious read, BTW. Highly recommended.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hanging-term-steeping-aging.html#post10930052

Mother of God, my ribs are broken...in a good way; thanks!

 

[dodari]

I don't give a fat flip.

 

[mfrankpdx]

Words don't have meanings, they have usages. Scientists use "theory" a different way than most people. British people use "fanny" differently than Americans. Vapers use "steep" differently than tea connoisseurs or whatever.

 

[stevegmu]

I thought steeping was used to let the nasties in cheap juice evaporate off...

 

[Nermal]

Gotta love ya BK
Trying to change things. At least you got me saying "age" instead of steep.
I even changed it in my Blog!!

I've been 'steeping' for over seventy years.

 

[Bunnykiller]

I've been 'steeping' for over seventy years.

time to get out of the water

 

[skoony]

odd... one ages wine cheese meat to make it taste better.... so why not age our liquid to make it taste better

when aging food there are biochemical processes going on.
regards
mike

 

[Nibiru2012]

Steep - from Wiktionary:
Verb
2. (intransitive) To imbue with something.

Imbue - from Wiktionary:
2. In general, to act in a way which results in an object becoming completely permeated or impregnated by some quality.

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It appears that the second definition of the word "steep" would be a correct one in this instance of how vapers apply it to the eliquid.
The use of "to imbue" then further defines it further, using the 2nd definition of embue.

Permeate means to enter and spread through. Impregnate means in the #2 definition means to saturate or infuse. Therefore since VG and PG are viscous liquids and some flavorings are either VG, PG, alcohol or water-based, then steep would apply correctly since it takes time for all these various ingredients to thoroughly blend and combine together.

Two good examples are juices from Ahlusion; Godfather (formerly known as Smooth Criminal, there's a new Smooth Criminal which is not nearly as good) and Desperado. Godfather NEEDS to steep to reach it's full richness, usually about a minimum of two weeks or more. Desperado needs to steep about a week or so and also leave the cap off for at least two full days for the alcohol to evaporate.

In the end it is just semantics anyway!

 

[Bunnykiller]

when aging food there are biochemical processes going on.
regards
mike

VG vegetable Glycerin
Nicotine plant byproduct

 

[jb783]

I don't think people would mind so much if it was being used as slang. But in this case, people really seemed confused about the dictionary term of steep. That's what I think is bothering people. People are using steep and they really mean age. It's really as simple as that.

It's like if I said I'm going to walk my car to work, and I really thought walk meant drive. No, I'm going to drive it. However, if "walk" is being used as slang, then it would be acceptable.

It's not being used as slang, people are just using it incorrectly.

Sorry to be "that" guy

 

[liwintjoa]

I would say age, feel more exclusive and expensive. I think vaping is more of a lifestyle now. My friend never smoke, but he vape now

 

[AttyPops]

odd... one ages wine cheese meat to make it taste better.... so why not age our liquid to make it taste better

Aging is more complex than diffusion.

Aging a wine or cheese cause a significant chemical change in the product...it's really a different product. Particularly when yeasts and/or bacteria are present. As compared to the act of diffusion where you have to let something rest to "mingle" but don't desire a different product.

I've made cheese (the short term ones). The long-term aged cheeses require more $$$ and commitment than I have time for (like a cheese cave). But I know that it is changed over time, not just diffused/mingled.

I buy Katya's examples and links.
Besides...meh. "Steeping" conveys the "flavor mingles" idea just as well as anything else. And that's the point of the exercise.

Maybe you can do both in different situations. Some juices may undergo change over time and age. There are claims by the vaping community that 6 months is good for em. Buuuuuuut....that result would vary by recipe. By definition.