Still learning. Bloog Carts+Bobas= Not Great. Compatible tanks? Switch to Atomizers? Which one?

[burnvictim]

The Bloog is my 1st and only vaper so far. I really like it except that it doesn't vape VG well which is all that I use. I've tried diluting it but that killed the flavor. I'd like to try a tank setup but there doesn't seem to be as many for this format.

From what I've gathered I should look into an atomizer. 510 seems pretty popular but the process of dripping doesn't really appeal to me, looks like a lot of hassle. So I would want to try a tank setup for this but there seem to be as many of those that don't work right as those that do.

I would like to try to stay as close to the Bloogs size as reasonable, I wouldn't mind going bigger if that is the best course. I think I read that atomizers vape cooler than carts, I do appreciate the warm vapor my current offers. I've got 3 batteries, a pcc and sit at a desk all day so I don't mind switching batteries to recharge one halfway through the day. Not really looking to get a Mod yet.

I've been scouring threads about this for weeks, I think there is more info on this site than any other forum I've been a part of and this is also the most helpful community I've seen online. Never seen one persons response to someones question being "search", which is truly impressive.

This is a constantly evolving process and technology and its pretty hard to learn everything about it. I'm still trying to figure out Ohms, resistances and their effects on the whole experience.

I would very much like opinions and expertise on this.

I'm guessing I might hear an "Get an Ego", which is fine but I would also like to hear other options.

Thanks.

TLDR; I'd like to try something different than my Bloog.

 

[bobthesalesclerk]

Go all out and get a buzz pro lol. Seriously...when everyone first started vaping they wanted to be as close to the real thing as possible and within a few months they were using something big battery. Just skip the ego part and go straight for vaping nirvana.

You haven't tasted bobas bounty until you have tasted it at 4.3 volts out of a j tank.

I know this probably isn't what you wanted to hear but do some research. You aren't smoking anymore and IMO if you're going to quit you should try to distance yourself from a cigarette type device as much as possible(once again IMO). I wish I wouldn't have spent $300 looking for something small when in all honesty...going to a bigger device is where it's at in the world of e cigs.

Sent from my flashback honeycomb gtablet

 

[bobthesalesclerk]

Hell...even a smaller 14500 device such as the Alpha with a low resistance Atty or dual coil cartos tank is wayyyy above the ego.

Sent from my flashback honeycomb gtablet

 

[spaceballsrules]

Try some Clearocartos on your Bloog before investing ina whole new kit. KR808DM-1 ClearoCartos

I took a pic of my V2 78mm batt (same as Bloog) with a Clearocarto on it. And guess what it's filled with....yup, Boba's! It hits beautifully, and I have had no problems with leaking or wicking, despite the thick juice. Really easy to use. Just pop the top off, fill, replace top, and vape. It takes literally seconds for the Boba's to fill the wick, and it continually feeds it. Never a dry hit.

 

[JDJ]

I agree with SpaceBallsRules' point - just try a different cartomizer before going through all the change of a new kit, since you (rightfully) like your current kit. I am a Boba's fan, and I have also found that it is not great in Bloog cartomizers. However, it is fantastic in the V2 blank cartomizers. Yeah, the V2 batteries are expensive, but I really like their cartomizers. I keep a few filled with Boba's all the time and it is a great combination for me. Many refills per cartomizer and they still provide a strong, warm, smooth hit. Other juices are great in the Bloog cartomizers, but my Boba's always goes in V2 and Boge cartomizers, which I then vape on either Bloog or Go-Go batteries (depending on whether I want a small rig or all-day battery life).

 

[spaceballsrules]

I agree with SpaceBallsRules' point - just try a different cartomizer before going through all the change of a new kit, since you (rightfully) like your current kit. I am a Boba's fan, and I have also found that it is not great in Bloog cartomizers. However, it is fantastic in the V2 blank cartomizers. Yeah, the V2 batteries are expensive, but I really like their cartomizers. I keep a few filled with Boba's all the time and it is a great combination for me. Many refills per cartomizer and they still provide a strong, warm, smooth hit. Other juices are great in the Bloog cartomizers, but my Boba's always goes in V2 and Boge cartomizers, which I then vape on either Bloog or Go-Go batteries (depending on whether I want a small rig or all-day battery life).

I have about 80 used V2 cartos in my kit box. Good to know that the Boba's works well in those as well.

@burnvictim - I am also vaping Boba's in a Boge carto on my Riva 510. It seems to work well enough, but I am waiting for the Boba's to gunk up the carto over time, as it is known to do. You can clean cartos, but it is a PITA that I would rather avoid.
The nice thing about the Clearocartos I linked earlier is that you can clean the gunk out fairly easily - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...x-2-0-clearocartos-can-cleaned-heres-how.html

 

[Charlz]

definitely try some clearos. Trying to make you go out and buy a new $150 mod seems to be the new "Buy and Ego" when all you need to do is be able to enjoy that delicious juice. Got some new 808 clearos coming in the mail today and some Bobba's "steeping" in the drawer. Probably why I'm up so early. It's like christmas........only 6 more hours till the mail comes.

 

[Charlz]

These should wake up that Bobba's nicely. Keeping it simple?.......2.2ohms will do nicely on that bloog, just shorten the run time a little but you said you don't mind switching out. 808D Bottom feed transparent Clear-o-mizer


ask questions....it's just like doing research. wait no, it is doing research

 

[burnvictim]

Thanks guys these are good answers. This is the 1st I've read about Clearocartos I will definitely pick some of those up as well as V2s and Boges.

Is there a standard progression of upgrades that new users typically make? Small and portable, a little bigger and better and finally ending up with Mods? I'm sure that there are plenty of people that will have their introductory vaper 1st and go straight to Mods. I'm sure I'll end up with a Mod or maybe a few.

I am interested in trying other vapers, is there something in between my Bloog and a Mod that would be recommended for me to try? Rather open ended question I know. There are dozens I could try.

 

[whitepony]

the smaller the ecig the smaller the batt....i would honestly get a kgo/riva kit those are both 3.7v 510 kits

 

[Charlz]

the smaller the ecig the smaller the batt....i would honestly get a kgo/riva kit those are both 3.7v 510 kits

I second that. 3.7v is what you have and you'll be able to explore what you like from 1.7ohms to 3.0.

A bloog is regulated at 3.7 and standard 808 carts fall into the 2.8 ohm range. Follow this calculation by plugging in 3.7 for voltage and 2.8ohms for resistance. Ohm's Law Calculator

You'll find it's about 4.8 watts that you are vaping at. A lr for an 808 is 2.0. That will put you in the 6 watt range. I personally don't like vaping any higher than 6 watts because the hotter it gets the more it kills flavor so i find I'm happiest about 5 watts.

But mod owners tell us that vaping at low voltage 6 watts isn't the same as vaping at high voltage 6 watts so someday I may take the plunge

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

"Most" times the fault lies within the delivery system- cartos, catridge, atty, clearo, tank, etc.

 

[Nikkita6]

I agree with most others opinions here ... High VG and poly fill cartos do not go well together. I also have a Bloog, as well as a Kanger KR808D (they are the same), and I can't go over a 50% VG when using my cartos, and even 50% is very slow to absorb, so clearo's are the only solution if you are not into direct dripping with an atty.

 

[The Rebel]

Is there a standard progression of upgrades that new users typically make? Small and portable, a little bigger and better and finally ending up with Mods? I'm sure that there are plenty of people that will have their introductory vaper 1st and go straight to Mods. I'm sure I'll end up with a Mod or maybe a few.

There was for me. I started with a 510 manual, hated the short battery life, moved up to an eGo and loved everything but the cooler vape. Tried a couple of bottom feeders for the ease and they worked OK. Finally went to a VV mod (Lavatube) and I'll never go back. Excellent battery life, and I can dial in any atty or carto I want to the warmth and TH I want. It's is just the best way to go.

And for VG juice and a tank? I use the VPX tank with a 3.0 ohm boge carto from Nhaler. They come with two good sized holes punched in the carto and it works great with VG juices. Haven't had a dry hit yet.

 

[spaceballsrules]

Thanks guys these are good answers. This is the 1st I've read about Clearocartos I will definitely pick some of those up as well as V2s and Boges.

Is there a standard progression of upgrades that new users typically make? Small and portable, a little bigger and better and finally ending up with Mods? I'm sure that there are plenty of people that will have their introductory vaper 1st and go straight to Mods. I'm sure I'll end up with a Mod or maybe a few.

I am interested in trying other vapers, is there something in between my Bloog and a Mod that would be recommended for me to try? Rather open ended question I know. There are dozens I could try.

There is no STANDARD progression. (Read my sig). Different PVs serve different needs, and it all depends on what your needs are.
As you read the forums and window shop more, you will start figuring out what appeals to you personally, and whenever you have a question, ECF is here.

With that said, a Riva 510 (650 mah) or a KGO (1100 mah) are great choices that leave you with pretty much every option you can think of. Tanks, single or dual coil cartos, cartos or attys with different resistance, and so on. Those would be a logical next step for you. Or you could just go all in and get a Provari. Nothing wrong with that at all. If you want an auto model, check out the Echo.

 

[burnvictim]

Are there any Atomizer styles that have warmer vapor or can they just not replicate the heated coils?

 

[Charlz]

If you are using that bloog, try this. It's one of my favorite atomizers. Smok Tech 901 Black Atomizer 2.0ohm

You can also get a 808 to 510 adapter. Try the boge 2.0 cartomizers. The Smoke Tech 901 2.0ohms always proved really reliable. The boge is hit or miss. BIG hit or BIG miss.

2.0 is the resstance the coil provides. Don't go below 2.0 or it may ruin your battery. You are probably vaping somewhere in the 2.8 to 3.0 range. Just know that the higher heat delivers more vapor but flavor comes through less.

Madvapes also sellls smokteck 2.0 ohm cartos as well. They are the first ones you come to. The white ones. It says 2.0 in the description. I haven't tried them though.

 

[mynameisrob]

2.0ohm are low resistance. Low resistance attys and cartos are only for bigger battery PVs. Using them on a slim ecig can ruin your battery.

I def agree with going with a 3.7V PV. I think a 3.7V PV gives a great vape. Personally I don't know why so many people always recommend an eGo when you can get a 3.7V for the same price. EGos are 3.3-3.4V and can potentially fry with attys/cartos below 2.0ohm. A 3.7V PV gives a better vape than an eGo and handles the lower resistances alot better. Check out the kGo, Epower, and newer Rivas. Their all great PVs.
I use an Epower and love it. The main difference for the Epower is that it uses non-proprietary batteries like mods do. The batteries are alot cheaper than eGo/kGo/Riva batteries and they last alot longer before they need to be replaced. Also everything on the Epower is replaceable so it really keeps cost down and it's cheaper to maintain.
Mods are nice, but I dont think it's necessary for a new vaper to buy an expensive mod right away. I think for alot of vapers, a 3.7V PV will give them everything they are looking for without having to spend alot on a high-end mod. I'm perfectly happy with my Epower and it hascometely gotten me off cigs. I don't need to buy a better PV, and if I ever do, it won't be bc my Epower doesn't give me what I need or bc I want more, it would be simply bc I'd be curious to try something else.
Also smoktech cartos work pretty well for thicker juices. The filler in the is wrapped more loosely and seems to be able to handle thicker juices better than some other cartos with a tight wrapped filler. I use the Ressurector cartos (Smoktech 1.7ohm XL) on my Epower daily and love them. I'm currently vaping Bobas in one now and have never had the slightest problem with it.

If your looking for a warmer vape, you need to use a lower resistance. The lower the ohm, the warmer the vape will be. I use the Ressurectors which are 1.7ohm LR with Bobas and it gives a nice warm vape.
But like I said, low resistance attys and cartos are only for bigger battery pVs. Slim ecigs, like you have, can only use standard resistance attys and cartos, which give a cooler vape

 

[burnvictim]

I should have specified.
What I meant to say was if I were to switch to another 510 style atomizer PV, are there any that have a warmer vapor?

Looks like I would try 2.0 resistance or maybe a little lower.

I just ordered an EPower to see what its like, we'll see how that works for me.
Thanks again for all of the help.

 

[Charlz]

Boge and smoktech both put out a 2.0. The rejuvenators/ressurectors do good at 1.7 ohms. They are just ST 1.7ohms. Check madvapes. They are usually in the upper right corner of the page as the #1 seller.

The boge 2.0 are good when they work right. I've stopped recommending them so much because they've been so hit or miss lately. At lr you are trading flavor and run time for warm vapor. It's up to you what you will like and where you find a happy medium.