Still Trying to QUIT!!

[lucky_x16]

I've been posting about this a lot, like a new religious convert...but maybe what you're missing from vaping are Whole tobacco Alkaloids? I started a thread which is currently on the front page of this forum.

I'm not saying that's what you really need, but maybe it is. I found that it killed all of my cravings, and eliminated the need for willpower. I liked (like?) smoking, though, and for me to switch, it would have to be completely painless. With WTA, it is.

If you buy from any of the three available vendors, it should be simple to dilute some unflavored down to 6 mg with VG/PG and add 10% to your favorite juice.

If flavor's your issue, you might want to order some juices with extra flavor shots. For a juice without extra flavor added, I find Boba's Bounty to be nice and strong- if you like the flavor. it's not for everyone.

Good luck.

picked up
Mothers Milk
Peaches and Cream
Pumpkin Pie with Vanilla Bean at the B&M today, and had them double their strongest flavor.
Bought a 10 mil bottle and use that to dial in the flavor I wanted, and once they had it, I had them make me a 30 mil bottle.
Unfortunately I live too far away from the B&M to make it a daily visit, so I always buy extra of what I find I like.
Still trying but also doing it on a budget as well.

 

[lucky_x16]

That said, I do appreciate all of your feed back, and the good fight continues.
It may turn out easy with stronger flavors? Or, it could just be a fight of will power.
A month's worth of cigarettes at $70.00 a week is my budget, but that only works if I am not spending on cigarettes as well.
Crossing my fingers.

 

[Oberon75]

Honestly have tried the higher nic route. The unfortunate part is over 6mg, and I gag, hack, and cough, when I try to inhale. With that in mind, it is negative reinforcement for me.
The 6mg satisfies me, as long as I find it interesting enough to keep vaping, If not, then it becomes a knickknack on my desk.

How long have you spent on higher nic levels? I used to have the same issue until I just roughed it out. After a few days of choking, everything fell into place. Started out, Bill Clinton style and didn't inhale. I just let my mouth and nose absorb the nicotine. Eventually I was able to bring small amounts into my lungs by using a low voltage. Finally I could fill my lungs completely.

Also, are you hitting it like a cigarette and bringing it into your lungs with one strong draw or are you bringing it into your mouth first before inhaling?

I'm only asking this because I did have a really rough start and didn't think I could do this with the very low nic levels I had to use. Now I vape 24mg juice at 9 to 9.5 watts through my iClear 30, Nautilus and Tobeco Kayfun Lite like it's nobody's business on my MVP 2.0. I'm vaping about 3ml a day and was a 2 pack a day smoker for about 25 years.

 

[TyPie]

We're in your corner with you, lucky. What has me puzzled is how you can cough and gag on 6 mg vapor, yet smoke an analog without doing the same??????
Gotta believe that if you can inhale cigarette smoke, you certainly can train yourself to inhale vapor, especially 6 mg.

Do you inhale directly into your lungs? Or into your mouth first? If you inhale direct to lungs, try inhaling into your mouth and HOLD IT THERE a few seconds, then slowly inhale to the lungs. (Nic is also more effectively absorbed in the mouth and nose, and less effectively by the lungs.) Train yourself for a while by doing this. If this helps, you can easily up your nicotine level to 12, or 18. Then whenever you get an urge for a smoke, you'll REALLY kill off the urge just by vaping more, and a bit more heavily.

All the best with this. Keep trying, because I know that you can do it!

 

[pianoguy]

Have you tried unflavored? It's worth a shot, if for nothing else to use as a palate cleanser. It's been my ADV now for the better part of the last year, and is the most budget-friendly option available. Best of luck to you!

 

[lucky_x16]

So far so good! 1 analog today on the way to the local B&M. Have not had the urge since I picked up my new e-liquids!
Crossing my fingers.

 

[lucky_x16]

Have you tried unflavored? It's worth a shot, if for nothing else to use as a palate cleanser. It's been my ADV now for the better part of the last year, and is the most budget-friendly option available. Best of luck to you!

Thanks will keep it in mind.

 

[lucky_x16]

Have you tried unflavored? It's worth a shot, if for nothing else to use as a palate cleanser. It's been my ADV now for the better part of the last year, and is the most budget-friendly option available. Best of luck to you!

Thanks will keep it in mind.

 

[lucky_x16]

Agree with the others that you may not be getting enough nicotine. Did your BP go up after you quit smoking? This may be the reason. Can a nicotine patch boost my blood pressure? - Harvard Health Publications

If you feel you just aren't getting what you need from vaping, taste aside, you might want to check out this thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...r-whole-tobacco-alkaloid-success-stories.html

I believe I have figured it out!!
I have one addiction that I believe is hurting my quitting on this one. YEAH! Unfortunately, as easy as it was to try. I really do not want to quit it, lmao.
I love Super Hot Peppers! Reapers, Brain Strains, Trinidad Chocolate Scorpion, and Moruga's. Down side is for a good hour or so after eating, my taste buds are fried. Therefore I cannot taste the juice, and I guess the nicotine is not high enough to get me by for that. I am thinking of the alkaloid, or maybe a higher level Nic lvl, or going with the cinnamon, to get past it?

 

[R. Scott Kennan]

My opinion is to try higher nicotine and flavor first, but if that doesn't work, research the WTA. You have to decide for yourself if it seems safe enough to use. It did for me, but that's just me.

 

[lucky_x16]

My opinion is to try higher nicotine and flavor first, but if that doesn't work, research the WTA. You have to decide for yourself if it seems safe enough to use. It did for me, but that's just me.

Actually at $12.00, I went higher nic as well, especially with my hot pepper addiction. Have a dark horse RBA coming so I can drip it when the urge nails me, and Ordered some hot cinnamon e-juice @ 12mg as well, with a dripper it is much easier to switch flavors/MG.
As long as I can keep the cigarette usage down, and still stay within my monthly cigarette budget, I feel I am ahead of the game.

 

[R. Scott Kennan]

Actually at $12.00, I went higher nic as well, especially with my hot pepper addiction. Have a dark horse RBA coming so I can drip it when the urge nails me, and Ordered some hot cinnamon e-juice @ 12mg as well, with a dripper it is much easier to switch flavors/MG.
As long as I can keep the cigarette usage down, and still stay within my monthly cigarette budget, I feel I am ahead of the game.

I notice that you mentioned in the other thread that you're trying WTA, and it seems like that's what you're getting at above. One thing I'd recommend, is that if you're dual using, try to go one day with just vaping, and accept the cravings. That way you'll be able to do an honest appraisal of the WTA when you get it. If it kills your cravings and maybe even makes you feel better than smoking, you're one of the people it works for. That's what I did, and it worked out great. It was just the proof I needed.

 

[lucky_x16]

That is the game plan.

 

[lucky_x16]

I am hoping/praying, that using an RBA dripper, I can use it like a cigarette, and just go back to my regular usually very satisfying e-liquids.
I do want to quit, and am attempting to approach this smarter not harder. I do not want to get hooked on WTA, on the far end.

 

[R. Scott Kennan]

I am hoping/praying, that using an RBA dripper, I can use it like a cigarette, and just go back to my regular usually very satisfying e-liquids.
I do want to quit, and am attempting to approach this smarter not harder. I do not want to get hooked on WTA, on the far end.

I hear you. I'm probably going to be hooked on WTA, at least for a while, because I've always allowed myself one vice- cigarettes. I rarely drink and don't do do drugs, and I always justified smoking as the one thing I was allowed. I don't have a personal problem with allowing myself to be addicted to something (one thing) on principle- I just want to try to make that addiction safer.

Oddly enough, I like the addiction (smoking, now switched to vaping). Sure, it's bad when I don't have my fix, but the ride is fun; anticipation that leads to fulfillment.

I'm just lucky I never got into street drugs. With a different set of circumstances, I'd probably be a statistic.

Sincere kudos to you for not being like me.

 

[GinnyTx]

it's all going to boil down to an inner commitment to stop smoking...

I can't speak for anyone but myself but I don't want to smoke anymore..period.

we've had the flu for the last week and a half and Ed & I both..really couldn't vape for the last almost 4 days ...I didn't even think about cigarettes, though, I'm done with those.

I was pretty darn happy that I could vape again this morning though!!

what I am happy about too..is with the flu last year..I was more sick and longer...and even with the slight wheeze I didn't need the nebulizer and a bunch of respiratory Rx's and that's a FIRST for well over a decade and a half.

not sure if they're an approved vendor I use Mt Baker, ITC and Vista Vapors to make my "Five Pawns and premium juice mix riffs" and they're tasty and inexpensive with Vista's "double down" I got 200ml for $30 of my Queenside Riff... DIY is next.


I'm sorry your struggling...it's not easy but I'd say the hardest part of quitting any addiction is the psychological...the physiological is over in a few days...

hang in there!! Vape on!!!

 

[MadMeathead]

Like the others said, check your Nic level. I did 24 mg for the first couple of weeks then cut to 18.

I also tend to go flavour dead quickly. So I keep 6 mini nauts in my carry case loaded with different liquids to switch it up during the day. It helps a lot.

 

[lucky_x16]

it's all going to boil down to an inner commitment to stop smoking...

I'm sorry your struggling...it's not easy but I'd say the hardest part of quitting any addiction is the psychological...the physiological is over in a few days...

hang in there!! Vape on!!!

I agree it is all in the head, aka your/my mind so to speak. 2 years ago, I was hospitalized for 4 days after my knee replacement. I never got irritable, and barely even craved a smoke, because I knew there was no way in hades, I was going to get one. That said, As soon as I got home, I had one.

In all my attempts to quit, 28 to 30 days is my worst trial by fire period. The one time I was successful, I got through the first few weeks okay, but I was saved by a deployment and no stores any where near by.

 

[WharfRat1976]

Quit trying to quit. Try starting to STOP.

When we quit we always restart.

When we STOP- we STOP.

GL