Still vaping strong after 6+ months?

[Buggainok]

I started vaping this last January and haven't smoked since. I use 24 mg. juice and feel great. I'm going to stick with what works.

 

[acka]

I have enough nicotine in the freezer for more than 20 years.

Look, it's none of my business.

 

[DavidOck]

For those who wish to stop all nic intake, vaping can be a good method. Periodically reduce the nic until at zero, then slowly stop vaping at all.

For those who actually enjoy the process, the vapor, the flavor, vaping allows each to tailor the nic to their preference. At a much reduced health risk. (I put myself there, I enjoy it. Probably why no other method worked to get me to stop lighting up!)

Quitting smoking is as much (maybe more) mental than physical, Trying to do both at once is, for many, an insurmountable hill.

 

[rbrylawski]

Look, it's none of my business, and I'm probably talking to myself tbh - at least the mindless addict part of me - but you don't have to surrender so wholly to...well, what? I'd say a nicotine addiction but then whenever it suits vapers they'll bang on about nicotine being no more addicitive than coffee so what is it exactly that has such a hold on you and thus your behaviour?

Again, probably talking to myself but you'd be better off spending that money and going to see a professional imo. At least that way you might get some behavioural improvements that you can carry into all aspects of your life and thus get genuine improvements you can better control rather than the fairly arbitrary results that occur just because your vaping addiction has less of a health impact than your cigarette addiction and is, currently, financially cheaper.

If you haven't smoked in 4 years, than that's proof you can conquer that addiction. If you can conquer that addiction surely you can conquer your vaping addiction? And stocking up on 20 years of nicotine is addicted behaviour, no doubt about it.

Again probably working all this out in my own head as, no offence, I'm sick of being so mindless about my addiction. People quit smoking, it can be done, I'd like to do it.

7 months vaping here and I'm sick and tired of it, feel like a bloody child most of the time now. Vape, vape, vape, but, buy, buy, denial, denial, denial. Methadone for smackheads, slippery slope.

You are probably talking to yourself. For some of us [ME ME ME] giving up nicotine completely just isn't very likely. I did quit cigarettes at one point for a while, but the nicotine addiction never went away and then I wound up going back to death sticks. I've been vaping solidly now for two full years without any interest in smoking, but I know myself well enough to know if I gave up vaping, the draw to nicotine would still be there. So, I vape and I enjoy vaping. I haven't reduced the nic level from 18mg and that's fine with me. It works and that's all that matters to me.

I think the reason the person you're commenting to has so much nicotine in the freezer is because of the fear of the impending FDA regulations. Chances are and I could be wrong about that, if the FDA wasn't considering regulating nicotine based juices away, he wouldn't likely feel he needs to have so much available.

But to tell him he may need therapy, seems a bit off base to me. We're all different and our level of addiction was/is different. What may work for you, may not satisfy someone else at all.

Just my .02 worth...........

 

[Lurch]

On my fifth month of vaping now and I am using more juice than before. But, I attribute that to two things: first, I have reduced my nicotine levels from 12mg to usually 6mg (I still have some juices left at 12mg that I have not finished), and second, I have tremendously increased the effectiveness of my devices. I went from Ego twist style batteries to a ProVari and from EVODs and ProTanks to Russians and Kayfun.

If I could analyze and compare the amount of time I spend vaping I doubt I would see any difference, but the equipment is much more efficient and I am sure I am using more juice because of that efficiency.

 

[cclaplante]

I'm coming up on a year at the end of the month, and have not had a cigarette since the day after I picked up my first PV. For the first six months, I held steady at about 1-1.5ml a day in an EVOD/PT mini. After that, it's like a switch flipped and the hobby effect kicked in. I bought a couple mods, RBAs, and DIY supplies, and started moving away from tobacco flavors. Now my juice consumption is up to about 3-5ml a day. At the same time, my nic strength is down from 18mg to 6mg, and I'm considering moving down to 3mg for dripping.

-C

 

[Travsi]

Over two years completely analog free, 3.5 years in total vaping

 

[acka]

You are probably talking to yourself. [Snip]

But to tell him he may need therapy, seems a bit off base to me.

Yeah I am, apologies. Annoyed with myself lately as I thought I'd beat smoking but quickly found out I hadn't and need to man-up.. Nothing to do with NICNurse, I shouldn't have said anything. It's none of my business and whatever works for someone, great.

Genuinely didn't mean therapy just professional quitting services - Allen Carr, something like that. But again, just projecting my own rubbish.

 

[DavidOck]

Noted, appreciated and accepted

Sometimes the printed word gets in the way of what we're really trying to say, since facial expression, intonation and body language, important part of face to face communication, just don't exist in this medium. (Yet? )

 

[marlight]

I"m coming up on a year with no cigarettes--not even one little slip in that entire time, although the thought crossed my mind a few times. I started in the 30s and currently vaping 24, but my plan has always been to keep cutting the nic level down and to eventually quit vaping. I'll be stepping down to 18 when I run out of my current 24.

 

[silkakc]

I started vaping on 10-10-10. I wanted a memorable date I haven't touched a cig since and my husband still smokes.

I was at 6mg for 3 of those years but have worked my way up to 18mg this summer. I need the energy LOL! I have low blood pressure and anemia problems so I get foggy-headed and the 18mg helps me to think more clearly at work.

 

[NICnurse]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn! 20 years? And a tote full of carto's?

I have totes full of mags and years of ammo. Guess I have some vaping prepping to do to catch up...


I guess they could ban/regulate the living crap out of this too. I should buy bigger bottles of my juice I guess.

haha you sound like my husband......hes the rubbermaid tote full of ammo guy too. Gotta stock up on the important stuff, right?

 

[NICnurse]

Yeah I am, apologies. Annoyed with myself lately as I thought I'd beat smoking but quickly found out I hadn't and need to man-up.. Nothing to do with NICNurse, I shouldn't have said anything. It's none of my business and whatever works for someone, great.

Genuinely didn't mean therapy just professional quitting services - Allen Carr, something like that. But again, just projecting my own rubbish.

I read your reply before you edited it.......I respect your feelings and thoughts on the issue and it is your right to post those thoughts. But a few things about me that you may want to know....

First, I am a female. Second, I am not only a nurse but also completing my psychiatric nurse practitioner Master's degree in 4 months. I definitely have life coaches and fellow therapists in my life that I could (and do) consult with about a wide variety of issues and situations in my life.

Third, as posted by someone else above, I have a large supply stock piled purely due to the possibility of FDA regulations. I figure buy cheap when I can, and if I decide to quit then hey, I am pretty sure I can sell it to someone else who needs it.

Fourth, I have no desire to quit vaping. I prefer to interpret my vaping choices as my personal right and decision, and I will quit if and when I decide to do so. That may be next month or it may be never. Who knows! Either way, it is my personal choice.

I used to be fairly active on the boards here. When I returned to grad school I did not have the time to post as regularly as I did in days past. But if I am being authentically honest, it is posts such as the one you edited that play a large role in why I choose to stay away more often than not. What I put out there as a hopeful message of positivity and encouragement to all of you who have not vaped long was obviously irritating and offensive to acka.....and garnered me a vitriol filled response as to how I should live my life. The FDA is already trying to do that for me right now.....I don't think I need advice from a new vaper that has no clue who I am personally to tell me what or how I should do with my life. But I do respect the right that you have to throw out unsolicited advice; it is an open forum message board afterall. And it takes all kinds to make the world go round.

Good luck on the vaping adventure to all of you. I wish you all nothing but success......whether you keep vaping or quit or use Allen Carr or hypnotists or whatever your method, just stay off the cigarettes.

 

[Asmo6]

I think you are dignifying what was just a basic reading comprehension failure, as something worthy of a serious response...

Also knew you weren't a "he". Things you pick up on when you do more than just glance at stuff, eager to find a place to take a dump on someone's post because your brimming with self righteous BS.

But I digress...


If at all unclear, I think having planned that far ahead is awesome. I hadn't got that far and it kinda slipped my mind. I really like the juice I like and I think if I couldn't get it I'd be generally unhappy with vaping.

So I should get on that...


On a side note, the big Rubbermaid totes are for loaded mags. Ammo cans are for ammo.

Difference between short term moisture control, accessibility, and long term moisture control...

Don't forget desiccant, and a chem light or two... No one wants to reload in the dark.

 

[humpstyles]

I've been off cigs for about 10 months, and will admit that I had 2 puffs of a friends cigarette on 2 separate occasions.

1) Was at the beach for 4 days and went through a fresh 30mL bottle. Had a stash of 5mL on reserve just incase I ran out, and the cap cracked and leaked on the ground.

2) Brought a 50,000mAh portable charger to a 2-day festival which died faster than it could recharge my DNA device.

Either way, both times I took 1 or 2 puffs, said "what the F am I doing", and gave it back, lol. Definitely still consider myself smoke-free. It was more of a "I remember I used to do these too" kind of thing. My throat burnt for a few days after, ... was I thinking.

Everything for me is now down to 3mg, whether it's dripping in a 30mm Tobh on a mech, or vaping in a KF3.1 clone on my XPV.

 

[acka]

Ok, I'll bite.

I read your reply before you edited it.......I respect your feelings and thoughts on the issue and it is your right to post those thoughts. But a few things about me that you may want to know....

First, I am a female.

I never said you weren't? And I'm genuinely confused as to what your sexuality has to do with anything. You seem to feel it's important to the topic, I don't know why.

Second, I am not only a nurse but also completing my psychiatric nurse practitioner Master's degree in 4 months. I definitely have life coaches and fellow therapists in my life that I could (and do) consult with about a wide variety of issues and situations in my life.

*Jealous* Free expert advice on a range of things, I'd like that.

Third, as posted by someone else above, I have a large supply stock piled purely due to the possibility of FDA regulations. I figure buy cheap when I can, and if I decide to quit then hey, I am pretty sure I can sell it to someone else who needs it.

Ok, personally I never overly like decisions being made on the basis of fear, but yes, we live in an objective world most of the time where the actions of others limit our capacity to make our own decisions so forward-planning is necessary. However, just curious as to whether you would be happy to break the law to continue vaping in the manner you want after regulation? Again, seeing the rule of law as arbritrary is something I'd find very difficult to commend.

Fourth, I have no desire to quit vaping. I prefer to interpret my vaping choices as my personal right and decision, and I will quit if and when I decide to do so. That may be next month or it may be never. Who knows! Either way, it is my personal choice.

I suppose my question here is how much of this decision is truly a personal choice? Do you believe you have an addiction to vaping, any kind of addiction? If you do then your idea that you are in control of your behaviour around it would be a mistaken belief imo. Addiction of any kind removes the aspect of personal choice and replaces it with necessity and compulsion. I don't think I'm being controversial in saying that, that would be established belief in your field of work I believe. If you don't believe you have an addiction to it, or a behaviour morphing relationship with it, I'm genuinely surprised you're still vaping after all this time. Especially if you don't rebuild, make mods, chase clouds etc. Have you not got bored? That's a long time.

I used to be fairly active on the boards here. When I returned to grad school I did not have the time to post as regularly as I did in days past. But if I am being authentically honest, it is posts such as the one you edited that play a large role in why I choose to stay away more often than not.

I'm not going to be held accountable for your personal actions, not a chance.

What I put out there as a hopeful message of positivity and encouragement to all of you who have not vaped long was obviously irritating and offensive to acka.....and garnered me a vitriol filled response as to how I should live my life. The FDA is already trying to do that for me right now.....I don't think I need advice from a new vaper that has no clue who I am personally to tell me what or how I should do with my life. But I do respect the right that you have to throw out unsolicited advice; it is an open forum message board afterall. And it takes all kinds to make the world go round.

I felt I deleted my post, not edited. As it still there in a quote from somebody else I re-read it. I cannot see the vitriol. I frequently state that I am both commenting on something that is not my concern and acknowledge I am talking about my own relationship with vaping. If I wanted to get into more tedious armchair analysis I'd dwell on the idea of you feeling under attack about actions you state you are perfectly comfortable with...'personal slights, real or imagined' etc.

Good luck on the vaping adventure to all of you. I wish you all nothing but success......whether you keep vaping or quit or use Allen Carr or hypnotists or whatever your method, just stay off the cigarettes.

Well, if I'm being 'authentically honest' (a tautology Shirley?) I don't like the use of words like 'adventure' around vaping. I find it obscures and confuses the issue at hand - cigarette addiction. There are numerous aspects to vapers' attitudes I don't like personally and I find it all a bit embarrassing these days. I find myself more frequently grabbing on to times when this belief is reinforced these days - the last was some comedy show where to reinforce what a loser the boyfriend was, he proudly/moronically stated his intent to 'go out to vapourise' after a meal at a restaurant. A little thing, but these are nagging me more and more. My vaping was like this - wrapped up in a delight and pride that I now believe isn't actually merited (and I was easily at 8mls a day) - and it is a part of my character that's not actually worth celebrating. I don't have beat myself up mercilessly about it either but I would like to grow up and take better control of both my actions and my wants. The big secret, imo, is that once that happens, you wonder why the hell you took so long. I mean when did I become so weak? Walking around as if I'm powerless half the time and it's all just too tough and how could I possibly go on without this aid. What a waste of time energy, I'm done with that irrationality.

 

[imsoenthused]

Well, I suppose if you hated yourself for smoking, you would hate yourself for vaping, too. Personally I sometimes feel like a minority on these forums because I always felt smoking was my choice. I enjoyed it enough that I kept doing it even though I knew it was terrible for me. I wanted to want to quit, but I didn't so I didn't. Vaping just lets me enjoy it without all the terrible health factors. I've never felt like a slave to nicotine who was being brutally mind raped to do something against my will. I felt like a human being making my choices and living, or not, with the consequences. Breaking the physical addiction to cigarettes was never a very big deal for me, making myself stop liking them was.

 

[acka]

Well, I suppose if you hated yourself for smoking, you would hate yourself for vaping, too.

Hate's a strong word, but I would feel that way sometimes I suppose. It's a result of a character defect that doesn't limit itself to cigarettes in my case and I'd like, greatly, to have better conscious control of it. I feel/think many areas of my life would improve if I could control this 'mindless' part of myself. In 'holiday mode' where cigs are a $ a pack I could put away 60-80 in a day. This is a serious problem for me, as serious as cancer excuse the pun.

Personally I sometimes feel like a minority on these forums because I always felt smoking was my choice. I enjoyed it enough that I kept doing it even though I knew it was terrible for me. I wanted to want to quit, but I didn't so I didn't. Vaping just lets me enjoy it without all the terrible health factors. I've never felt like a slave to nicotine who was being brutally mind raped to do something against my will. I felt like a human being making my choices and living, or not, with the consequences. Breaking the physical addiction to cigarettes was never a very big deal for me, making myself stop liking them was.

I don't know you from Adam and you seem to have a thorough grasp of your motivations but...there's always the chance that you're rationalising. I see that in your post only because I see that in me, so I am fully aware it may not be there, and your response is a lot calmer than some of the zealots on here when vaping is challenged in any way, so you seem good. I'm not so want to make a change.

Anyway, this was never the forum for me (I don't like guns also!) and I'm realising vaping was never for me either, doesn't address my compulsiveness at all. Damage limitation was ok for a while but seven months in I'm ready to move on to see if I can make a behavioural change. I used this thread to get that straight in my head, pretty selfish.

Peace and love to all vapers but regulation may be no bad thing. Some of the vaping community may need to be protected from themselves. Usually when things are too good to be true, they are. *Boo!Hiss!* etc.

 

[Asmo6]

Please go project your personal dilemma onto someone else, somewhere else.

Or emotionally paddle yourself about your vaping addiction and self control issues in private.


And you can take your nanny state save me from me garbage with you.

 

[six]

4 + years in. I started with 24 and it was too much. My very first order was for 18. I've vaped 18 no matter what. A few months ago, I clicked instead of clacked on my juice vendors website and got 4 months worth of 12. No biggie... I was planning to switch to a rebuildable anyway and common knowledge on the forums is that rebuildables cause users to step down the nic... Yeah. For me, not so much. I still feel slightly unsatisfied. I ordered some nic base and added some to my last 100 ml bottle of 12... and eyeballing it after scratching some math on a piece of paper, I'm confident it's close to 18.... and since I'm not left unsatisfied like I was with 12 and also not getting headaches like I was at 24, I think I'm close enough.

18 is what I like. I don't have any intentions of stepping down to 12 or lower. Even the rebuildable didn't cause me any desire to step down. 18 is it.