Struggling (sorry, long post)

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julie78

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I have gone back to smoking. I am hoping that it's only temporary, and will try again on Sunday morning, to quit. My husband wants to quit his Copenhagen, but needs to see me succeed in order to know that he can do it. It's been a struggle, this past week, and I'd like to write about it. I'm not expecting any comments, so feel free if you don't want to read this, or comment on it. It's so that I can get all this stuff outta my head, and work on dealing with it, so that I can move on from it.

This is the last day of school, for my kiddo. He'll be moving on to 2nd grade, next year, and I'm super excited to see how much he's grown over the last year. But, the last 12 months have been hell on earth; a real struggle. Unfortunately, his problems started about a year before kindergarten.

In June 2009, my husband and I got a new puppy and a kitten. They were both about 6 weeks old, when we brought them home. The puppy was for him and Bobby. The kitty was mine, since I adore cats. Bobby had been struggling with anger since he was about 3, and he was struggling with the animals, at first. He warmed up to our puppy, Bear, easier than our kitten, Romeo. One morning, in late June, Bobby woke up before his dad and I did, and went to go sit on the couch. Romeo heard him, and came out to the living room to join him. As he tried to jump up on the couch, to snuggle up with Bobby, he scratched Bobby's leg. Bobby, in turn, got angry with Romeo and grabbed him by the neck and squeezed. When he realized what he had done, he panicked, bringing Romeo in to us, and letting us know what happened. We took Romeo to the vet, and found out that Bobby had broken the kitten's neck and he had to be euthanized. They didn't press charges (thank goodness!), but Bobby learned an important lesson that day. However, his behavior seemed to go downhill from there. We got him set up with a therapist, and he went every week to see her. He seemed to be doing better ... until kindergarten started up.

The beginning of his kindergarten year was great!!!! He was a great listener, always did what he was told; we very rarely had a negative report from his teacher. We took a trip to see my parents (TX to WI), for christmas, and even though Bobby didn't want to see my dad, his therapist insisted that we take him anyway (when my parents moved to WI 3 years ago, my dad seemed to drop off the face of the earth; bobby hasn't heard from him at all, and still hasn't. bobby was very close to my dad). After returning to TX, from Christmas break, Bobby's behavior deteriorated. We were getting negative reports, nearly every day, from his teacher. He was hitting the other students, putting his hands on their necks, trying to convince a fellow student to show him her "boos" and lifted his shirt for her, so that she wouldn't feel so uncomfortable. He was suspended from school for a full day, due to his behavior. I met with the school, just before the end of the year, to talk about his behavior, and the only thing we could attribute it to, was seeing my dad at Christmas. The real panic hit on the last day of school...........:(

The Tuesday of the last week of school, Bobby had mentioned a "secret" to his therapist. A "secret" he said he shared with a fellow student. She called the school counselor on Wednesday, and the school counselor called both boys into her office, to talk about the "secret". She ended up calling Bobby's therapist back on Friday morning, and his therapist called my husband. We needed to pick Bobby up from school and take him for an emergency evaluation at Northpointe. She informed my husband that Bobby had talked with the other student, about killing himself, and we needed him evaluated. I left work early, and drove the 20 minutes home, in tears. We got Bobby from school, and arrived at Northpointe. They asked the normal questions, and Bobby answered, honestly. He had a plan to kill himself, at the age of 6. He knew when, and how. With this information, they recommended the best thing for him: inpatient treatment at University Behavioral Health.

So, on the last day of kindergarten, instead of watching the children perform songs for their parents, we were checking Bobby into inpatient treatment, for suicidal thoughts. He spent 10 full days, and nights, at UBH, where they medicated his depression and diagnosed him with "Mood Disorder N.O.S". Looking at the pictures of his kindergarten class, from last year, he looked so miserable. The hardest part, for me, has been that we didn't see it!!! We didn't notice that there was anything wrong, other than his struggle with his emotions, and his anger. After his inpatient stay, they did outpatient care for 5 weeks, where he went to their offices from 7am until 2pm. They added another medication, for hallucinations. He was telling them he was seeing zombies in the corners, a cane walking by itself, and hearing voices. We always thought it was just his wild imagination (he's a very creative child, and super intelligent). We noticed that his hallucinations stopped after the new medication was added. They added a diagnosis of ADHD, but no medications for it.

So, needless to say, it's been hell on earth for about 2 years. The worst experience ever, is having to put your child in the hospital, to help him learn to talk about his feelings and not want to die. It took 9 months, to get him to stop calling himself stupid, or saying "I don't deserve to be here", or "I don't deserve to live". Things are looking up, now, and he's soooo much better than he was, before. His first grade teacher said that he's been telling jokes, and she's "never heard him laugh so hard before". What a change!!!!!!!

Thank you for listening. I needed to talk about it, so that I can feel comfortable with quitting again, and let go of all the emotions that are tied to this post. I've been crying, on and off, for the past week, unable to stop myself from remembering how much it hurt to check him into UBH. During this past Christmas, we did have him evaluated by a psychologist, who changed his diagnoses: ADHD (Combined type), and Major Depressive Disorder, single episode. Which means that he's now on medications for the ADHD, and the MDD was only because of his suicidal thoughts, but he's improving. The reports from this year have been great!!!!! After Christmas, when his ADHD meds kicked in, he was more attentive, able to sit still, able to deal with his emotions better.

Again, thanks for reading/listening. I appreciate all of you who took the time to look through this. If you want to leave a comment, feel free to. Just know that I am feeling better, now that I've been able to process through it all, and should be able to get back to quitting this weekend!
 

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Im sure we can all feel the pain....however, remember this is an e-cig forum, so to that end, keep in mind we all have issues of one kind or another, Most here were heavy or daily analog users, but turned to e-cigs to lose that habit and perhaps add some years on our lifespan...to that end, get a good device...use it, get used to it, try some good e-juices, lots of folks here to guide you to fine products.....and try Dear Abby for the issuse, no telling what youll find here for responses to those types of things.
 

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Julie hang in there! These types of struggles are very difficult there is a section of the forum that you might be interested in Wellness: Wrecked & Bonkers

Although I can not fully empathize I do truly feel you pain and frustration. Your situation is difficult at best but you are doing great you have made full use of your resources and are doing the best for your son. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. Stay strong!
 
For yourself, if you havent already (not digging, just saying :) ) But, for YOUR help in quitting, have you thought about telling your Dr that you are wanting to quit and might need some help? Like prozac or xanex or something. It will help you mentally and even though you are not depressed (or you might be, I dont know) it might help to 'level' you out too. Your emotions are crazy too I would imagine- just from the stress of dealing with all the ups and downs.

I would start off with a Riva- honestly- and I would get some good 'feel good' juices. like comfort foods- to use to start with. I think thats what helped me the most- finding foods that i was IN love with- and 'vaping' those.
 

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As I read your post I couldn't help but cry. I went through a similar experience with my youngest son. The only difference is that he has mild Asperger's Syndrome and ADHD. He wasn't diagnosed until he was 7 and getting ready for the first grade. He had repeated kindergarten twice. It's so hard when you don't know what's wrong with your child, but when you find out and you know how to handle it that makes it easier.

Like others have said, hang in there and stay strong! My son is coming up on his 22nd birthday soon. He's in the Air Force and is really loving his life right now! I couldn't be prouder of him! He has learned how to handle himself and make the most of his "disabilities", turning them into assets.

I can understand why you'd go back to smoking. Good Lord I didn't even think of quitting while we trying to deal with our son back then. It just wouldn't have happened, even if e-cigs had been available back then. Don't be too hard on yourself! This is a tough time, but have heart and know that we're here for you!
 

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My heart goes out to you fully.My oldest,now 19 has many issues like your son.Its heartbreaking to watch your child suffer and struggle.It sounds like your doing great and doing everything you can to help.Just remember one thing.Its about the chemical make up of his brain,its an illness.Its not your fault.All you can do is be the best mom you can and pray for his well being.My son is a wonderful amazingly intelligent person and so will yours.Try to notice the good behaviors and let him know you see them.God gave him to you for a reason.
 

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Julie78, that is such a tragic story and hopefully it is past and you and your son are on to a healthy path now! Children are so resilient and it makes you wonder what happened to him to make this dramatic change, if it was your fathers visit or something else. Bless you and your family and this is not a race or competition, there is no right or wrong or need for feeling guilt about smoking again. Just do it for yourself when you have the strength and serenity to focus. It is for you and your health anyway! Good luck to you and your family, and hope your little one has fun filled summer!
 

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I have an 8 year old and 2 years ago we had to have her see a phyciatrist and she was diagnosed with ADHD and bi-polar. I understand how you feel. The only difference is she didn't have a definate plan on how to kill herself. She is now on medication and she is doing great in school. We finally have them leveled out. Kids are resiliant though and you will be surprised at how well your son will do when they have the right levels and such with his meds. Good luck to you.
 

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julie, hang in there and please don't beat yourself up on having him hospitalized. It had to be done or you would have lost him all together. The hospital knew through exams what had to be done and did it. Unfortunately, us parents don't want to believe that anything could ever be wrong with our children. We always see them as little angels or just being kids. However, an outsider sees it differently and thank Heaven's it was seen in your son before it was too late.

Please go get some counselling for yourself. Unleash on the therapist about yourself to get it off your chest. They are there to help you deal with the problems. Sometimes just talking about it to someone helps and it also helps yourself to see what more you can do to help him.

Hugs to you and your family.
 

julie78

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Thank you, ALL, for your kind words. I didn't expect the support that I've gotten, here, today. Jobs have been scarce for myself, and my husband, and we haven't been able to afford counselling for anyone but Bobby. He's doing SO much better, it's a relief to watch him grow into the young man he's turning into. He had an awesome report card, for the last quarter, and he didn't even have a mark against him for behavior. It's amazing what medications will do, to help a child get back on the right track. I am such a proud mama, today, and love my child with all my heart!

Thank you all, again. I have been writing down my feelings, all day long, and am able to handle this all much better than I did this morning.
 

julie78

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I would start off with a Riva- honestly- and I would get some good 'feel good' juices. like comfort foods- to use to start with. I think thats what helped me the most- finding foods that i was IN love with- and 'vaping' those.

I have a Riva, and plenty of juice, at different nic levels. I was vaping, almost constantly, and it wasn't enough to calm my brain down this week. I was still craving, and this was AFTER being smoke-free for over 80 days. I had just had enough, and bought some analogs. I have a little over a pack left, which I do plan on finishing. Although, I have to admit, I don't like the bad taste in my mouth ...
 

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Wow. I don't really have any valuable input in this particular situation, but my thoughts are with you. That sounds very difficult, it's understandable you'd go back to the simplicity of Analogs during it - and that's totally fine. Tackle your biggest hurdles first, you'll be ready to give it another go soon enough.
 
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