Sub ohm ========health hazard
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Lol I shared that video with a lot of people, don't take it down or nuthin'. If anything, make more.
Just for the record--diacetyl has nothing to do with sub-ohming; diacetyl is a common ingredient in may flavorings, mostly butter, cream, caramel, custard etc... It's present in some e-liquids at any wattage. See Dr, Farsalinos's study. And it's implicated in popcorn lung disease at very high levels.
Here's the latest study being conducted by Dr. Farsalinos--please feel free to help fund it. The sooner he gets the funds, the faster we'll have the results.
E-cigarette research: temperature of evaporation
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As far as I know, no one has every written a book on the subject, laboratory tests have not been conducted and if they have, I have never read anything that came from such tests that would teach someone how to subohm vape. Subohm vaping in my opinion got started by people who continually have pushed the envelope of just how low you can go. There are so many doing it now that it has become its own method of vaping, but I don't think anyone ever wrote any kind of factual based instruction book on it.
So those who say that there is a "know how" and a don't know how is ridiculous. At this point, there is no concrete evidence that clearly proves that vaping in general is safe.
Additionally, there is definitely no scientific and proven evidence of what method of vaping is safer than another; if any of them are actually safe. If you vape your doing so at your own risk, regardless of how you vape. If you convince yourself it is safer than smoking than hopefully it is. If you think it is safer to use high wattage method to vape, then have at it. At the end of the day, if you vape by any method(s), how safe or dangerous it may be, is still just a mater of opinion.
if ya wanna avoid dry hits ... best to hit that in really short quick vapes
I disagree. Going from long draws to short draws will not eliminate the chances of dry hits. There is only one way to avoid burning your cotton and that is to regularly inspect it. Most people have a pretty good idea how many hits they can get with their rigs, prior to having to drip juice in to the RDA. By using your common sense and not being lazy, you can significantly improve your chances of not running the cotton dry.
It is known that when juice is overheated it degrades and makes unhealthy chemicals. Not everyone knows how to keep juice temperatures down. I see questions regularly about that here. This is certainly not ridiculous
I agree, but we're talking about sub-ohm vaping here and 'cooking liquids too hot'. Personally I doubt power is a problem in an appropriately designed build (if you know how), but hopefully Dr Farsalinos will give us some good data on that soon.
So why do you sub ohmers like it so much. Does flavor sacrifice like I hear it does, just for bigger clouds? I've heard its common to get a burnt flavor?
False. There are several ways. Trust me.
ETA: Inspecting doesn't prevent anything--just monitors possible damage.
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Sub ohm is a way to get more power (watts) into your vape with a mechanical mod. You can do the same by using a high power regulated mod at higher resistances and it's safer because you can't short your battery.
If you put too much power into a device you will get burnt hits. Single coil clearos (or tanks) cant take much power. Dual coil tanks can handle more. Then there are cartos, RBAs (rebuildable tanks) and RDAs (rebuildable drippers). I've had great flavor and vapor production at 25 watts and I think if you know how to do it you can go way higher than that but that's enough for me
For most people, sub ohm is more about the vape, not the clouds.
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Thank you for addressing this with sound science! I'm glad at least one person understands what's really going on!vaping, when it comes down to it, is a simple matter of thermodynamics of liquids and their vaporization point. No matter how much energy one throws into the mix, that constant doesn't change, given the same air pressure.
True, if one can't wick enough juice to supply the greater demand, or supply enough air to move the vape flow and keep the heat down, then yeah, things can get nasty depending on fiber used, cause then ones not vaping but burning the wick, and or super heating the vape atmosphere inside the atomization chamber. , which can produce some very nasty chit that have no doubt ain't good.
frak things up and you be smoking and not vaping, and as we all know, smoke bad, vape good
Vape long and Prosper.!!!
It seems that some people think that if your coil resistance goes below one ohm some magical transformation happens, you get transported into a world where physics, chemistry and common sense no longer exist.
In reality, what happens below one ohm follows the exact same rules as above one ohm. You supply power to a wire, it will heat up in accordance with its volume. The larger the volume the more power is needed to heat it up.
If you use high AWG wire to produce your sub-ohm coil then you are going to get an extremely hot vape (possibly producing carcinogens), whereas if you use lower AWG wire to make your sub-ohm coil then you can achieve a far cooler vape.
People need to realize that sub-ohming does not have to mean a hot vape.
In reality, what happens below one ohm follows the exact same rules as above one ohm. You supply power to a wire, it will heat up in accordance with its volume. The larger the volume the more power is needed to heat it up.
If you use high AWG wire to produce your sub-ohm coil then you are going to get an extremely hot vape (possibly producing carcinogens), whereas if you use lower AWG wire to make your sub-ohm coil then you can achieve a far cooler vape.
People need to realize that sub-ohming does not have to mean a hot vape.
Yup. Sub-ohming used to be a necessity in the past for those vapers who needed more watts to obtain a satisfactory (for their needs) wattage since they were limited by the voltages of their batteries. Now, with the introduction or high-watt mods, there is really no need to sub-ohm--unless one likes it (or loves his Caravela ). High wattages can now be achieved easily by high-watt regulated mods and high resistance builds. Some people prefer this method.
Even Dr. Farsalinos is not against sub-ohm/high wattage vaping because he understands its benefits.
). High wattages can now be achieved easily by high-watt regulated mods and high resistance builds. Some people prefer this method. Even Dr. Farsalinos is not against sub-ohm/high wattage vaping because he understands its benefits.
if ya wanna avoid dry hits ... best to hit that in really short quick vapes
Well... the longer the draw, the greater the risk of the coil overheating and producing something undesirable--like a dry hit or worse. Theoretically, our eliquid will always start evaporating at its boiling point--around 380 F for our PG/VG/water blends--but if not enough eliquid and air are supplied to the coil fast enough to keep it cool, bad things begin to happen. And again, this can happen at any wattage and at any puff duration if the wicking is poor and there is not enough air flow--I got the worst dry hits of my life from an Aspire ET-S at 6.5 watts and very short draws.
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It was a joke in regards to the video ... not advice on how to vape.
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Well... the longer the draw, the greater the risk of the coil overheating and producing something undesirable--like a dry hit or worse. Theoretically, our eliquid will always start evaporating at its boiling point--around 380 F for our PG/VG/water blends--but if not enough eliquid and air are supplied to the coil fast enough to keep it cool, bad things begin to happen. And again, this can happen at any wattage and at any puff duration if the wicking is poor and there is not enough air flow--I got the worst dry hits of my life from an Aspire ET-S at 6.5 watts and very short draws.
the water in e-juice starts vaporizing at about 180 degrees F.
both PG and VG are hygroscopic.they attract water and will adjust
the amount of water they absorb relative to the humidity in the air
and any water that may be in the flavoring or nic base.
alcohol based flavorings are not 100 % alcohol there mostly water.
typically e-juice by absorption is naturally 2- 3 % water.
the imputities listed in PG and VG are 99.9% water.
because of its lower boiling and vaporizing temperature some
e-juice makers will add distilled water to further enhance the vapor
producing quality of their juice.
when you fire up the coil the water vaporizes atomizing what ever
else is in the mix and carries it away long before the other things
reach their boiling temperature.
the more current through the coil the higher the temperature,
thus faster vapor production until you run out of juice or the water
content is to low to effectively produce a satisfying vape.(you start to burn the juice)
regards
mike
the water in e-juice starts vaporizing at about 180 degrees F.
both PG and VG are hygroscopic.they attract water and will adjust
the amount of water they absorb relative to the humidity in the air
and any water that may be in the flavoring or nic base.
alcohol based flavorings are not 100 % alcohol there mostly water.
typically e-juice by absorption is naturally 2- 3 % water.
the imputities listed in PG and VG are 99.9% water.
because of its lower boiling and vaporizing temperature some
e-juice makers will add distilled water to further enhance the vapor
producing quality of their juice.
when you fire up the coil the water vaporizes atomizing what ever
else is in the mix and carries it away long before the other things
reach their boiling temperature.
the more current through the coil the higher the temperature,
thus faster vapor production until you run out of juice or the water
content is to low to effectively produce a satisfying vape.(you start to burn the juice)
regards
mike
I am sorry, it is completely wrong description of boiling (and atomizing) process.
Liquid boils as a whole thing, its components does not boil as separate entities.
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