Suckers

[equazcion]

Think about it:

Regularly buying the same products that don't last cause they keep breaking, on a monthly to bi-monthly basis, at 100% markup (at least).


I just HAD to get that out of my system.

Not to insult anyone. I just started this little hobby and it looks like I might stick with it. I just wish there was a better way.

 

[riddle80]

I'll still save $2800/year to replace my real cig habit. That's buying 1 atomizer and 1 battery a month and 60 ml of liquid. You could always save 500 bucks and buy direct if you don't like the markup .

 

[BiscuitSlayer]

I'll still save $2800/year to replace my real cig habit. That's buying 1 atomizer and 1 battery a month and 60 ml of liquid. You could always save 500 bucks and buy direct if you don't like the markup .

You were spending $233 a month on analogs?

Between my wife and I, we were spending about $120 to $150 a month at $30 a carton.

 

[gep]

I'm willing to be that the same thought has crossed alot of people's minds. I know I've felt that way as well at times.

But I started "vaping" at the end of June (Still smoked analogs for a while) and my breathing improved and I don't cough and pant from the lack of oxygen when I climb stairs now.

I smoked my last analog on Nov 8th 2008 and am working my way down to zero nicotine. (I smoked for 36 years.)

Sucker? Maybe for now but it's as good a bet as any that it's better than smoking tobacco. Only time will tell. JMHO

 

[equazcion]

I'll still save $2800/year to replace my real cig habit. That's buying 1 atomizer and 1 battery a month and 60 ml of liquid.

Products are supposed to last. Yeah, one is better than the other for a host of reasons, and maybe in your particular case e-cigs come out being cheaper (I doubt that's the case for most people). But they SHOULD be saving you a whole lot MORE than they are. Ecigs are hardware whereas tobacco is a consumable. You expect to pay continually to replace consumables. Hardware is supposed to last.

You could always save 500 bucks and buy direct if you don't like the markup .

Yes I could. But just because there are ways to get around the insane and overwhelming markup doesn't mean it isn't there.

 

[riddle80]

Whoops, no $2800 is what I was spending on cigs (2 packs a day). I'll save about $2k/year as my e-cig should cost about $800/yr.

 

[Muffalicious]

You were spending $233 a month on analogs?

Between my wife and I, we were spending about $120 to $150 a month at $30 a carton.

My real cigs were about $55 a carton, so it was a easy $220 or more a month.

*side-note*This has been my first week with my e-cig and it is a hell of a lot cheaper then I thought it would be.

 

[halopunker]

Jeez, I only spend about $5 a month for my cartridges, juice, and my monthly atomizer. Don't know what everyone is complaining about.

Oh what does markup mean?
JK lol

 

[nicowolf]

Yes there is a markup. There is also a number of services involved. If you think you could do better for us, please go right on ahead. I, as a consumer and an addict, am always glad to see lower prices, higher quality, better service, faster shipping, more information, etc. I welcome anyone who wants to supply these things. I haven't tried it myself because it looks like more than a full time job.

 

[equazcion]

Yes there is a markup. There is also a number of services involved.

There are a number of services involved in any business. This one isn't any different.

 

[nicowolf]

Oh yeah, forgot to mention I have been esmoking since November and have killed two batteries, one still under warranty. Mostly, my savings goes toward trying to improve my esmoking experience. New gadgets, new flavors, trying mods, you get the picture. Funny, we never complained about the markup on analogs.

 

[billyboy689]

agreed nicowolf on all points
im in aus and easily spent over $80/week on analogs
so thats over $4000/year
ecigs dont go anywhere near that cost for me

 

[nicowolf]

There are a number of services involved in any business. This one isn't any different.

Average retail markup, in general, is 40% - much higher on electronics because of poor QC and high labor for repairs and warranties; also much higher on textiles for no reason except that consumers will pay these prices.

 

[equazcion]

Funny, we never complained about the markup on analogs.

Every product gets marked up. I don't complain about all of them. It's a matter of how big that markup is.

And most of the "markup" on analogs are taxes.

 

[equazcion]

Average retail markup, in general, is 40% - much higher on electronics because of poor QC and high labor for repairs and warranties

You're saying the markup for e-cigs is the same as for any other electronics? I doubt that.

And it's not just about the markup. It's the markup combined with the shoddy product that as a result must be replaced regularly. Most of the electronics I buy, I expect to last a good year. Or two. Or three. Or five. Not a month or two.

 

[nicowolf]

The point I am trying to make is that you have choices. You choose to pay that markup - probably for convenience of not dealing with Chinese suppliers. I don't get upset because I have weighed my options and made a clear choice of how I will supply my habit and why. I do not have the patience or the time to do for myself what the suppliers are doing for me. That convenience costs me the markup. I don't have to sit around having a nic fit while I wait for customs to finish tearing apart my shipment and charging me extra money for tariffs. I don't have to deal with people who speak very poor English. I don't have to threaten anyone's first born child to get a human being to converse with me about where my stuff is and when it will arrive. I don't have to test one ecig after another to find the rare parts that work. I am willing to pay the price for the lack of annoyance.

 

[swanee]

Well come on stand up stop .....ing and be the person who imports products that are of a higher quality and does it for less profit than anyone else.

 

[swanee]

The point I am trying to make is that you have choices. You choose to pay that markup - probably for convenience of not dealing with Chinese suppliers. I don't get upset because I have weighed my options and made a clear choice of how I will supply my habit and why. I do not have the patience or the time to do for myself what the suppliers are doing for me. That convenience costs me the markup. I don't have to sit around having a nic fit while I wait for customs to finish tearing apart my shipment and charging me extra money for tariffs. I don't have to deal with people who speak very poor English. I don't have to threaten anyone's first born child to get a human being to converse with me about where my stuff is and when it will arrive. I don't have to test one ecig after another to find the rare parts that work. I am willing to pay the price for the lack of annoyance.

Real talk no one forces anyone to buy a product

 

[nicowolf]

I do think that the quality of these things leaves a lot to be desired. There are still a lot of bugs with these devices. Many are trying to find workarounds or trying to completely re-engineer them altogether. In the meantime, I read, and pay, and pray.

 

[swanee]

I do think that the quality of these things leaves a lot to be desired. There are still a lot of bugs with these devices. Many are trying to find workarounds or trying to completely re-engineer them altogether. In the meantime, I read, and pay, and pray.

Amen, Nothing is stopping anyone from coming up with a better product and selling it for cheaper though.