Superose sugar substitute?

[Fataliya]

I sent my son to Publix to look for liquid Splenda or Truvia, since my Walmart only carries agave sweetener. He came back with this Superose Sugar Substitute. The ingredients are, in order:

Water
Sodium Saccharin N.F. 2.5%
Benzoic Acid
Methyl Paraben

Now...can I use this in e-juice? I tasted a drop on my finger, and it has that...fake sugar aftertaste. Since I've never tried Splenda or Truvia, is this aftertaste common with all sugar substitutes? I don't want to ruin my e-juice by having a weird aftertaste.

 

[SailCat]

Sucralose (Splenda) is being sold by at leas one highly respected vendor for the purpose of sweetening e-juice. I use it whenever dishes require heat which Aspartame (Equal) won't tolerate. I ordered some myself and it has positively enhanced a few liquids.

Try here: http://www.tastyvapor.us/sucralosebased-sweetener-p-105.html?cPath=9

Michael

 

[Fataliya]

Sucralose (Splenda) is being sold by at leas one highly respected vendor for the purpose of sweetening e-juice. I use it whenever dishes require heat which Aspartame (Equal) won't tolerate. I ordered some myself and it has positively enhanced a few liquids.

Try here: Tasty Vapor

Michael

Yeah, since I adore TV's juices, I'm going to order some with my next order...however, I got some flavorings today along with some flavorless nic juice and I'm eager to mix up some flavors, lol. I'm terribly impatient.

I went to the Truvia website and searched where to buy it (that is open 24 hours), and the Walgreens by us carries it. That means hubby is the lucky guy who gets to drive down the road and pick some up for me, lol.

 

[WillyB]

I sent my son to Publix to look for liquid Splenda or Truvia, since my Walmart only carries agave sweetener. He came back with this Superose Sugar Substitute. The ingredients are, in order:

Water
Sodium Saccharin N.F. 2.5%
Benzoic Acid
Methyl Paraben

Now...can I use this in e-juice? I tasted a drop on my finger, and it has that...fake sugar aftertaste. Since I've never tried Splenda or Truvia, is this aftertaste common with all sugar substitutes? I don't want to ruin my e-juice by having a weird aftertaste.

Of course.

 

[Kate51]

This is one very very concentrated, you need very little, and I have used it for quite awhile to enhance my caramel flavoring.
Mine is Nature's Flavors: Ingredients water, ethyl alcohol, Stevia leaf extract.
No Glycerin. Have never noticed any residue or film, seems to disappear instantly. I believe the extract is from steam distillation of leaves. Purest way to process. A 2oz. bottle is $10+ shipping, but it will last forever. I use it a lot for lemonade-by-the-glass, etc.
In a 10ml bottle of diluted caramel/ethanol, I use one or two drops for my juice flavoring. Another plus is that with so little used you aren't diluting your mix with watery flavorings.

http://www.naturesflavors.com/product_info.php?products_id=4061&cPath=211

 

[Kurt]

I sent my son to Publix to look for liquid Splenda or Truvia, since my Walmart only carries agave sweetener. He came back with this Superose Sugar Substitute. The ingredients are, in order:

Water
Sodium Saccharin N.F. 2.5%
Benzoic Acid
Methyl Paraben

Now...can I use this in e-juice? I tasted a drop on my finger, and it has that...fake sugar aftertaste. Since I've never tried Splenda or Truvia, is this aftertaste common with all sugar substitutes? I don't want to ruin my e-juice by having a weird aftertaste.

Well, I don't think its harmful to you, but sodium salts are not good on electronics, and the methyl paraben might gunk up the atty. My guess is though it will not taste good.

Thing is sweetenings in ejuices are not easy to get right. Vaping a sweetener is not like eating it. Some use sucralose (splenda) with good results. I would recommend not using aspartame, as it will decompose with the heat. Some have tried stevia, but most find it nasty tasting in the vapor.

Many here use ethyl maltol (marshmallow/cotton candy flavor). Perfumers Apprentice sells it, and so do other flavor vendors. Vapes well, adds sweetness, and is safe to inhale.

Oh, and in case you didn't know, sugar itself is not recommended. It gums up attys generally, and can burn onto the coil.

Just my $0.02.

 

[keveck]

Oh, and in case you didn't know, sugar itself is not recommended. It gums up attys generally, and can burn onto the coil.

Yes, sugar caramelizes with heat. Not a good idea!

I'm curious about the stevia though. I've tried it mixed with cane sugar (sun crystals) in tea and didn't care for it too much, but sucralose doesn't add a whole lot of sweetness for me when I mix it with juice.

 

[Kurt]

Yes, sugar caramelizes with heat. Not a good idea!

I'm curious about the stevia though. I've tried it mixed with cane sugar (sun crystals) in tea and didn't care for it too much, but sucralose doesn't add a whole lot of sweetness for me when I mix it with juice.

Stevia seemed like a good sweetening candidate, but reports I've seen is that it tastes nasty when vaped. From a chemistry standpoint, the fact that the taste is similar to "wet dog", tells me thermal decomposition happens, rendering the alcohol central unit (wet dog) plus free sugars. Neither being good. The central alcohol unit is:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Steviol.svg

Big alcohols tend to have a real funk/stink.

Ethyl maltol (cotton candy flavor)seems to be getting the best reviews for sweetening in general. I use caramel flavoring for sweetening...haven't gotten ethyl maltol yet.

 

[Kurt]

Yes, sugar caramelizes with heat. Not a good idea!

I'm curious about the stevia though. I've tried it mixed with cane sugar (sun crystals) in tea and didn't care for it too much, but sucralose doesn't add a whole lot of sweetness for me when I mix it with juice.

I've not tried stevia personally, but it seems that it breaks down in the atty. People report nasty flavors with it, like wet dog, typical of a large organic alcohol, which the base group is without its sugars. So now you have wet dog AND sugars to gum up the works. Very large biomolecules are not generally stable with heat.

Sucralose is used with some success. I am not a fan of chlorocarbons, though. They tend to be hard on the liver.

I've used Capella caramel flavor for sweetening a juice. Ethyl maltol seems to be the sweetener that is the safest and most successful, but there is a taste associated with it.

 

[Kurt]

Woops! Double post there. That's what I get for using two computers and not updating pages. Well, I hope the info is useful none the less.

 

[berktt]

I use Stevia a lot, and I've read that it does not caramelize, but I wouldn't recommend mixing it with your juices. Like it has been pointed out before, Tasty Vapor sells a sweetener, that you can mix with your juices(from what I've read, Tasty Vapor doesn't put the sweetener in unless you ask for it).

 

[Fataliya]

Thanks for the advice everyone! I'll be sure to buy some ethyl maltol when I order my flavorings. Now, to decide which brand to use, lol.