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I couldn't find the blog entry regarding cCells. Can you give me the link?
I should mention that I was using NI wire for temp control (NI and TI wire is ONLY for temp control) when I did this guide as SS wasn't really available at the time.

I've switched over to SS now, so it's basically the same for building, but SS is so much better, safer, can be used in both wattage and TC modes.
 

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If you like the pads, I bought this years ago:
$8.67 Authentic Puff Rectangle Organic Cotton Wick for RDA RTA RBA Atomizers (200-Piece) 200-pack - 60*50mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

It's amazing stuff, but I've barely used it (even though I've used it for at least a hundred coils or more), this is a lifetime supply...:p
That's my point, cheap, lifetime supply. When i run out of cotton I'm looking into rayon, gonna give that a go. People talk pretty highly of it but I am curious what it's like for a warmer vape, medium high wattage...
I did go through a phase of trying many wicking products out there and some I loved some I hated, sometimes perhaps I didn't utilize them correctly... Who knows lol.
I think another good point is people have different tastes in wicking materials as with most aspects of vaping.
 

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That's my point, cheap, lifetime supply. When i run out of cotton I'm looking into rayon, gonna give that a go. People talk pretty highly of it but I am curious what it's like for a warmer vape, medium high wattage...
I did go through a phase of trying many wicking products out there and some I loved some I hated, sometimes perhaps I didn't utilize them correctly... Who knows lol.
I think another good point is people have different tastes in wicking materials as with most aspects of vaping.

I've tried a lot of different cottons... pads and rope.

I've been using both cotton and Rayon now, Rayon for a few months now ( as I was also curious, but finding some was a bit of a pain as I couldn't find a store that carried it, but now I have a huge supply for 20$.. it's a huge box), and it's been quite good, BUT:

1) it does tend to "gel" up and not wick as well after a fair amount of time
2) the fibers are much smaller than cotton, so you have to work gently with it as otherwise, it will end up with lose tiny pieces that could be bad to end up inhaling it.
3) you almost have to prime as you're dropping the leads into most liquid feeds (RTAs) as it does tend to be very fluffy and hard to hold together to place it correctly.
4) you have to tapper the leads correctly according to the RTA that you use.
5) it has to be a bit tighter in the coil and be aware that it doesn't expand like cotton does.

But I do enjoy it just fine.
 

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Way too expensive if those are US $ prices.
Yes, the prices are in US $, and the average income in Iran is about 300$ monthly! For how long would that 35oz cotton be enough approximately? I vape 10-15ml daily at 30 watts. Would it be enough for a few weeks, months, or a year...?
 
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My cCells are not hexagonal and look like this:

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It's weird, because your cCell has such coil:

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I dissected one of my cCells and there was no such coil! Only a 7-8 cm thin wire. That's when I thought ceramic is the heating element. It also doesn't have this part:

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Yes, the prices are in US $, and the average income in Iran is about 300$ monthly! For how long would that 35oz cotton be enough approximately? I vape 10-15ml daily at 30 watts. Would it be enough for a few weeks, months, or a year...?
Months at best. If that's all you have ready access to, give it a shot. But look into other things.
Japanese organic cotton is awesome. People say rayon is pretty awesome too. Pima cotton, specialty blends, others, even silica wicks and steel mesh have fans...
I guess one last thing I will say in favor of cotton pads aside from cost, wicking, and flavor, it is pretty easy to use, you can be somewhat forceful with it, non pad form cotton will tear apart easier.
I put my 2 cents in on wicking and then 2 more. That's all I can tell ya.
Good advice from others also.
 

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That's my point, cheap, lifetime supply. When i run out of cotton I'm looking into rayon, gonna give that a go. People talk pretty highly of it but I am curious what it's like for a warmer vape, medium high wattage...
I did go through a phase of trying many wicking products out there and some I loved some I hated, sometimes perhaps I didn't utilize them correctly... Who knows lol.
I think another good point is people have different tastes in wicking materials as with most aspects of vaping.

I have good luck with rayon at all wattages. I have never burnt any, even when I abused it intentionally (I'm sure it will at some point, but under normal and slightly abusive situations it just performs). I paid $15 locally at a Sally's beauty for 3lbs of rayon. To put that into perspective, that is over 1500 feet of rayon crammed tightly in a box that is about 16x12x12 inches. I've had it for about 6 months, and used roughly 10ft of it (which includes giving away a few feet to friends to try out). So even if I go through 20 feet a year, I have at least 75 years worth of rayon for that $15.
 

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I have good luck with rayon at all wattages. I have never burnt any, even when I abused it intentionally (I'm sure it will at some point, but under normal and slightly abusive situations it just performs). I paid $15 locally at a Sally's beauty for 3lbs of rayon. To put that into perspective, that is over 1500 feet of rayon crammed tightly in a box that is about 16x12x12 inches. I've had it for about 6 months, and used roughly 10ft of it (which includes giving away a few feet to friends to try out). So even if I go through 20 feet a year, I have at least 75 years worth of rayon for that $15.
That's good to know. I'm definitely going to give it a shot. Perhaps I will find someone to give me some instead of buy 75 years worth myself ha!
:tumble::rolleyes:;):lol::lol:
 

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My cCells are not hexagonal and look like this:

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It's weird, because your cCell has such coil:

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I dissected one of my cCells and there was no such coil! Only a 7-8 cm thin wire. That's when I thought ceramic is the heating element. It also doesn't have this part:

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There's several coils that are slightly different, but you should see that they way that they are built (internally) that they are all the same.

I've rebuilt Vaperasso cCells (as per this guide), Eleaf versions, the Aspire version, and the difference is very small.

There's several companies that used the same design for the cartridges and they can almost all be used across any of their tanks.

They are all the same in terms of being a vertical coil with the wick wrapped around it, slid inside it and the legs anchored correctly to the outer shell (negative) and to the center pin (positive).

Many other cartridges uses the exact same approach for their design as it's a fairly universal design.
 

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Yes, the prices are in US $, and the average income in Iran is about 300$ monthly! For how long would that 35oz cotton be enough approximately? I vape 10-15ml daily at 30 watts. Would it be enough for a few weeks, months, or a year...?

Probably going to get slammed for saying this. But there really isn't much difference in expensive small bags of vape cotton and organic unbleached cotton pads purchased from drug stores. I would think that those would be available inexpensive in Iran as well.
 

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Probably going to get slammed for saying this. But there really isn't much difference in expensive small bags of vape cotton and organic unbleached cotton pads purchased from drug stores. I would think that those would be available inexpensive in Iran as well.
Now, I'm not sure how much most of you guys know about organic vs non-organic, but pesticides are still used in the making of each. The organic is more healthy for us to use, but still contains organically based chemicals that can harm the human body. This is one reason I moved to rayon. I grew up farming and know a fair amount about this subject, and know how dangerous, even the organic, chemicals can be. It does not mean it is perfectly safe just because it says organic, but if you do want the cleanest cotton, medical grade is a much better choice and is still quite cheap.

Just check out the Pesticides section of this wiki page for a little more insight on it. Organic cotton - Wikipedia
 

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There's several coils that are slightly different, but you should see that they way that they are built (internally) that they are all the same.

I've rebuilt Vaperasso cCells (as per this guide), Eleaf versions, the Aspire version, and the difference is very small.

There's several companies that used the same design for the cartridges and they can almost all be used across any of their tanks.

They are all the same in terms of being a vertical coil with the wick wrapped around it, slid inside it and the legs anchored correctly to the outer shell (negative) and to the center pin (positive).

Many other cartridges uses the exact same approach for their design as it's a fairly universal design.
Do you think I could use those pre-built coils and cotton to rebuild a cCell? I don't have access to those wires either.
 
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Probably going to get slammed for saying this. But there really isn't much difference in expensive small bags of vape cotton and organic unbleached cotton pads purchased from drug stores. I would think that those would be available inexpensive in Iran as well.
Unbleached cotton pads; I don't know what it's called in Persian. Does it have other names? What's its use? That way I might find the Persian name.

I searched for cotton pads, and I found this:

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