SXK DOGGY STYLE
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Okie dokes, Ms. Ange, I'll bite. Why?
Got my own lil kat that does that
Here she is playing with her fave doggy
And to answer your question - I have no idea at all. I think it's the combination of the tiny chamber, 2.3mm id airflow hole and the plastic tank - along with the reliability.
The hotcig centaur mini RTA is very close to the doggy - tiny chamber, same airflow. But it's thirsty, and the doggys ain't thirsty
Ahhhhhhh........ all sounds good (and right) to me, dahlink!!!!
How I roll my 2K16 Doggys ...
Airflow: I have both SXK and SJMY. I prefer the larger airflow of the SJMY and purchased the larger inserts to "upgrade" my SXK decks. Larger deck inserts and run with airflow ring wide open for a restricted DL vape. Could even just remove the ring but like the sleeker look with the ring on.
Tank: Pictured are both frosted and clear tanks. Wasn't there something about the clear tank not necessarily being a healthy plastic? Can't remember, someone help me out please. Anyway and regardless of the tank I use, I do not use a bottom o-ring around the deck and never had a leak where the deck meets the tank. Lucky? ... dunno.
Build: 30ga Kanthal 8wrap (virtually) closed coil on 2mm ... +/- 1.8ohms. Wick is either Muji or Cotton Bacon V2 and currently run one tank of each as pictured. Have plenty of Rayon. Don't use Rayon primarily because the build is so small. Hard to wick the coil just right so there's enough material to fill the wick channels while not being too tight in the coil. Guess you could say, Rayon is persnickety for this build ... for me anyway. The cotton wick tails are long enough to wrap under and slightly around the center airflow tube.
Power: I run 3.2V. If you look at one of the old (outdated?) vape charts from back when carto's were popular (before my time), 3.2V is in the green and just about perfect for 1.8ohms. The is a "cool" vape and with my style of restricted DL, I still get a good vape density. Well, comparable to the density of a puff off a stinky. I do at times, crank it up to as high as 3.8V and either 3.2V or 3.8V or (almost) anything in between works for me.
Juice: I only vape 3 different(?) juices ... un-flavored, non-flavored and flavorless. 12-18mg nic and maybe a little 24mg from time to time. 50/50 from Nicotine River. I don't prefer a strong throat hit. The low (3.2) voltage helps keep the throat hit to a minimum with the amount of nic and PG I use. Certainly couldn't sub-ohm this juice !!! ... or wouldn't even want to try.
Drip Tip: It isn't really a drip tip is it? I mean since I don't "drip". Maybe the correct term would be mouthpiece. At least that's what PBusardo refers to them as in his reviews. Drip tip, mouthpiece ... whatever, I (mostly) prefer the organic sensation of wood against my lips, much like the stinkys I smoked for so long. The two pictured are wide bore Colombian Rosewood and African Blackwood from the now closed Molehill Mountain Art.
Final thoughts: I smoked analogs for over 45 years. I'm in vape for the nic. I could not care less about clouds or flavors. If I did, I'm sure I'd choose a different build and power setting ... pretty sure anyway. I tried flavors and none worked. I didn't smoke flavors, so don't vape flavors or need to. And tobacco flavored vape just didn't cut it. Made me want to grab a stinky as soon as possible and I found when time to change a used tobacco coil, it just STANK !!! The Doggy configured as described, gives me the most cig like vape experience in regards to inhale, exhale, nic hit and temperature. Works for me but certainly won't work for all. Just my preference and experience.
OH ... when not building Doggys, I vape ProVari with a Kabuki tank running Aspire Nautilus 1.8ohm coils. Unlike the 1.8ohm Doggy builds, the Nautilus coils don't like 3.2V at all in my experience. I ALWAYS run the off the shelf Nautilus coils at 3.8V. That's still less than the 4.2-5.0V suggestion Aspire prints on the side of the coil. OR I run a Billet Box with a Comfort Bridge carrying a Nautilus 1.8ohm coil at 8W. So a 1.8ohm to 1.8ohm comparison is apples to oranges apparently maybe LOL.
So many variables in the plethora of characteristics of vape and countless accouterments. At only 3 years into vape and trying all sorts of stuff, this is just what's currently working for me. I might go back and visit the other stuff as time goes on and find a revisit just the dealeo. It could happen. But for now ... rolling Doggys with an Eleaf Pico X and a Ehpro Mod 101.
Airflow: I have both SXK and SJMY. I prefer the larger airflow of the SJMY and purchased the larger inserts to "upgrade" my SXK decks. Larger deck inserts and run with airflow ring wide open for a restricted DL vape. Could even just remove the ring but like the sleeker look with the ring on.
Tank: Pictured are both frosted and clear tanks. Wasn't there something about the clear tank not necessarily being a healthy plastic? Can't remember, someone help me out please. Anyway and regardless of the tank I use, I do not use a bottom o-ring around the deck and never had a leak where the deck meets the tank. Lucky? ... dunno.
Build: 30ga Kanthal 8wrap (virtually) closed coil on 2mm ... +/- 1.8ohms. Wick is either Muji or Cotton Bacon V2 and currently run one tank of each as pictured. Have plenty of Rayon. Don't use Rayon primarily because the build is so small. Hard to wick the coil just right so there's enough material to fill the wick channels while not being too tight in the coil. Guess you could say, Rayon is persnickety for this build ... for me anyway. The cotton wick tails are long enough to wrap under and slightly around the center airflow tube.
Power: I run 3.2V. If you look at one of the old (outdated?) vape charts from back when carto's were popular (before my time), 3.2V is in the green and just about perfect for 1.8ohms. The is a "cool" vape and with my style of restricted DL, I still get a good vape density. Well, comparable to the density of a puff off a stinky. I do at times, crank it up to as high as 3.8V and either 3.2V or 3.8V or (almost) anything in between works for me.
Juice: I only vape 3 different(?) juices ... un-flavored, non-flavored and flavorless. 12-18mg nic and maybe a little 24mg from time to time. 50/50 from Nicotine River. I don't prefer a strong throat hit. The low (3.2) voltage helps keep the throat hit to a minimum with the amount of nic and PG I use. Certainly couldn't sub-ohm this juice !!! ... or wouldn't even want to try.
Drip Tip: It isn't really a drip tip is it? I mean since I don't "drip". Maybe the correct term would be mouthpiece. At least that's what PBusardo refers to them as in his reviews. Drip tip, mouthpiece ... whatever, I (mostly) prefer the organic sensation of wood against my lips, much like the stinkys I smoked for so long. The two pictured are wide bore Colombian Rosewood and African Blackwood from the now closed Molehill Mountain Art.
Final thoughts: I smoked analogs for over 45 years. I'm in vape for the nic. I could not care less about clouds or flavors. If I did, I'm sure I'd choose a different build and power setting ... pretty sure anyway. I tried flavors and none worked. I didn't smoke flavors, so don't vape flavors or need to. And tobacco flavored vape just didn't cut it. Made me want to grab a stinky as soon as possible and I found when time to change a used tobacco coil, it just STANK !!! The Doggy configured as described, gives me the most cig like vape experience in regards to inhale, exhale, nic hit and temperature. Works for me but certainly won't work for all. Just my preference and experience.
OH ... when not building Doggys, I vape ProVari with a Kabuki tank running Aspire Nautilus 1.8ohm coils. Unlike the 1.8ohm Doggy builds, the Nautilus coils don't like 3.2V at all in my experience. I ALWAYS run the off the shelf Nautilus coils at 3.8V. That's still less than the 4.2-5.0V suggestion Aspire prints on the side of the coil. OR I run a Billet Box with a Comfort Bridge carrying a Nautilus 1.8ohm coil at 8W. So a 1.8ohm to 1.8ohm comparison is apples to oranges apparently maybe LOL.
So many variables in the plethora of characteristics of vape and countless accouterments. At only 3 years into vape and trying all sorts of stuff, this is just what's currently working for me. I might go back and visit the other stuff as time goes on and find a revisit just the dealeo. It could happen. But for now ... rolling Doggys with an Eleaf Pico X and a Ehpro Mod 101.
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Thank you for such a great post Hobbs. I just checked my ever growing pack of working doggys and to my surprise all six are set at 3.2v as well (I never usually look at the volts only watts and tweak to whatever watts produces the best vape for me - usually around 9 to 9.5 watts). 28awg, 8 wraps at 2mm-id coming out at around 1.15 ohm's.
I use Cotton Bacon v2 and re-wick every single tankful (mostly because I vape NETs but it takes 3 minutes and to me juice just tastes so much better on a fresh wick). I wick more loosely than any YouTube vids I've seen. I don't know how they get a decent vape using the amount of cotton they do as when I've tried it before it mutes the flavour so badly - I'm guessing that type of dense wicking works better for high watts, which most vapers seem to do these days. For low watts I find the trick is to not compress the wick too much when you roll it - lightly roll so that it fills the coil but still slides fairly easily back and forth with just a little resistance - with 2mm wicks I find there is usually the perfect amount to fill the juice channels as well without too much trimming required. Coil height positioned so the coil legs run horizontally into the screw heads, no higher or lower.
We differ in so much as I like a draw tighter than a ducks rear, so I prefer the SXK, and despite the doggy having the most basic of AFC's (compared to other RTA's) it is still the most precise to dial in for a tight draw, whilst providing a quality vape. I like flavoured juice, but not a huge fan of fruits and deserts and vape mainly tobaccos, NET's and more recently some absolutes or artificial flavours from INW and FLV. I vape one custard occasionally, but even that's a tobacco custard.
My quest to find an authentic RTA that I can financially support that can match and/or surpass the SXK Doggy 2k16 continues. The Ehpro True comes close but has far too much airflow to produce a really restricted MTL (cig-like) vape. Most recently I tried the new Kayfun Lite 2019 (authentic), which is really restricted, but suffers from some condensation/gurgling issues with the AFC and ultimately isn't able to match the vape standard of a well built Doggy 2k16 - sadly it's already found its place in the spare parts box along with generations of its older Kayfun relatives. The only Kayfun I occasionally go back to is the Mini v3 - what a great little tank that was and to me probably still the Doggys closest rival.
The latest contender to catch my eye is the Authentic eXvape Expromizer V4 RTA, which will be the first top air flow RTA I've tried. I have one on the way from FT...
$44.90 Authentic eXvape Expromizer V4 RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 2ml / stainless steel / 23mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
(BTW, if anyone orders that from FT make sure to use their regular code MAP at checkout for a big 30%(ish) discount on that price.)
After the dissapointment of the latest Kayfun I vowed I'd finally stop looking for something to beat the $10 Doggy and just enjoy it, but then I saw the above new RTA and, well, here we go again...
I use Cotton Bacon v2 and re-wick every single tankful (mostly because I vape NETs but it takes 3 minutes and to me juice just tastes so much better on a fresh wick). I wick more loosely than any YouTube vids I've seen. I don't know how they get a decent vape using the amount of cotton they do as when I've tried it before it mutes the flavour so badly - I'm guessing that type of dense wicking works better for high watts, which most vapers seem to do these days. For low watts I find the trick is to not compress the wick too much when you roll it - lightly roll so that it fills the coil but still slides fairly easily back and forth with just a little resistance - with 2mm wicks I find there is usually the perfect amount to fill the juice channels as well without too much trimming required. Coil height positioned so the coil legs run horizontally into the screw heads, no higher or lower.
We differ in so much as I like a draw tighter than a ducks rear, so I prefer the SXK, and despite the doggy having the most basic of AFC's (compared to other RTA's) it is still the most precise to dial in for a tight draw, whilst providing a quality vape. I like flavoured juice, but not a huge fan of fruits and deserts and vape mainly tobaccos, NET's and more recently some absolutes or artificial flavours from INW and FLV. I vape one custard occasionally, but even that's a tobacco custard.
My quest to find an authentic RTA that I can financially support that can match and/or surpass the SXK Doggy 2k16 continues. The Ehpro True comes close but has far too much airflow to produce a really restricted MTL (cig-like) vape. Most recently I tried the new Kayfun Lite 2019 (authentic), which is really restricted, but suffers from some condensation/gurgling issues with the AFC and ultimately isn't able to match the vape standard of a well built Doggy 2k16 - sadly it's already found its place in the spare parts box along with generations of its older Kayfun relatives. The only Kayfun I occasionally go back to is the Mini v3 - what a great little tank that was and to me probably still the Doggys closest rival.
The latest contender to catch my eye is the Authentic eXvape Expromizer V4 RTA, which will be the first top air flow RTA I've tried. I have one on the way from FT...
$44.90 Authentic eXvape Expromizer V4 RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 2ml / stainless steel / 23mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
(BTW, if anyone orders that from FT make sure to use their regular code MAP at checkout for a big 30%(ish) discount on that price.)
After the dissapointment of the latest Kayfun I vowed I'd finally stop looking for something to beat the $10 Doggy and just enjoy it, but then I saw the above new RTA and, well, here we go again...
The Doggy is quite a versatile tank in the MTL world isn't it. Hard to beat a Doggy. That said, I do have a Dvarw and an Ehpro True in route via slow boat just to see which of the three I like best. But the Doggy is more than adequate for the time being and a joy to vape. Never tried a Kayfun and have no intentions to try one. All the newer ones just have too many parts ... like parts for the parts LOL. The only one I'd give a look is the V3 but have no intentions of doing so as long as simpler atomizers are comparable.
The Mini v3 has about the same amount of parts as a Doggy, but I think it would be too restricted for you. The larger Kayfun v5 would probably be more suitable as it has much more airflow, but then we are back into more parts.
Of those two you have ordered I think the Dvarw might pleasantly surprise you. It's really nicely designed and built and it made me "want" to appreciate it, enjoy it and use it, but sadly I just couldn't dial in a quality restricted flavourfull vape from it. Mind you, that was a clone and I'm still tempted to try an authentic as it is so nicely crafted. I now wish I'd got one rather than the Kayfun if I'm honest. Good luck with them both.
Of those two you have ordered I think the Dvarw might pleasantly surprise you. It's really nicely designed and built and it made me "want" to appreciate it, enjoy it and use it, but sadly I just couldn't dial in a quality restricted flavourfull vape from it. Mind you, that was a clone and I'm still tempted to try an authentic as it is so nicely crafted. I now wish I'd got one rather than the Kayfun if I'm honest. Good luck with them both.
Extra parts, tall tanks, finicky wicking, and guzzlers is what frustrates me with a lot of mtl RTAs. I'm in the same airflow preference as you, which is a very limited niche market
NOICE!!!!!!!!!!!
Very.
Very.
The Dogz do rule, Hobbs. They are alllllllll that and more.
Having said that, there are Kayfuns and there are Kayfuns. Once I dialed in, I did not look back.
Love 'em.
I have to work today, and it's now the third straight weekend (which I'm NOT happy about), but I'm going to take my frustrations out here. This will likely P some folks off, so apologies in advance.
It's therapeutic.
It's therapeutic.
I can remember when I thought my first Doggy was possessed and I'd never build it, etc.
I'm counting four of them in use right now I can coil them and wick them well, not like a pro, but they work.
I have to say, thanks to all of you who encouraged me to return to this tank It's really one of the best.
Anna
I'm counting four of them in use right now
I can coil them and wick them well, not like a pro, but they work.I have to say, thanks to all of you who encouraged me to return to this tank
It's really one of the best.Anna
Doggy on the right, with it's closest cousin on the left - hotcig's centaur mini RTA.
Top RTA for me? Well the Doggy is always on the Colossal (my fave mod), the centaur sits astride a tarot baby.
But if you like the sjmy doggy - with the bigger airflow hole, then the centaur mini is certainly worth a look at.
If the flavour of the centaur in 5ml bubbled mode was as good as it is in 2ml mode, it may edge out the doggy. But it drops off a tad, which means I use it in 2ml mode, so the doggy takes out the top dog RTA prize
A couple of mine are starting to gurgle, and leak out of the air hole. Maybe time for a new tank, and o-rings?
Only time i had that problem a little tightening of the chimney cured it.
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