SXmini Q Class Powered by YiHi SX450 Chip Part 2

[Mikhail Ivan Naumov II]

Just a curious observation, why is it you seem to ignore all posts pointing out potential red flags the mod has? I get it for the ones constantly talking about battery safety, but I brought up quite a few points. Not trying to instigate or anything, just seems like a lot of people are blatantly ignoring several alarming qualities this mod claims because they just WANT it to be nice in their heart. I just hate seeing people get a bad deal. Caution is never a bad thing. Every time a red flag is pointed out, you ignore the comment or, post a sale ad.

One point I'd REALLY like to discuss is the super low resistance [removed], a 200W mod, true 200W or not, would NOT be able to fire resistances that low. Plus those software screenshots just looked.. cheap. Also, just feel the need to mention there is no such unicorn as a TRUE 30A CDR 18650 battery, and Yihi is doing 'safe and capable' tests at nearly 32A. I don't know, maybe you guys can ignore these alarming signs, I just can't. This looks like a souped up SX350J-V2 that's clearly a desperate re-hash of the ML Class because Evolv and all these new budget 200W mods are pushing Yihi into the shadows. If this was triple 18650 or lipo powered with more reasonable claims to its function and was $30-40 cheaper I could see it. I think they're rushing into a mod to compete with Evolv and other 200W TC mods given this mod was announced basically a few weeks after the ML Class flopped twice and died on the shoreline.

 

[Hyperspace]

Just a curious observation, why is it you seem to ignore all posts pointing out potential red flags the mod has? I get it for the ones constantly talking about battery safety, but I brought up quite a few points. Not trying to instigate or anything, just seems like a lot of people are blatantly ignoring several alarming qualities this mod claims because they just WANT it to be nice in their heart. I just hate seeing people get a bad deal. Caution is never a bad thing. Every time a red flag is pointed out, you ignore the comment or, post a sale ad.

One point I'd REALLY like to discuss is the super low resistance BS, a 200W mod, true 200W or not, would NOT be able to fire resistances that low. Plus those software screenshots just looked.. cheap.

I have nothing to say to your post. Your concerns aren't my concerns.

 

[Mikhail Ivan Naumov II]

They aren't concerns, they're REAL technological limitations. There's one thing about preference, then there's straight denial.

1. There are no true 30A CDR 18650's
2. Getting a flat, direct 200W even with boost safely out of two 18650's is impossible.
3. Firing anything under 0.01ohms with only 200W at a vapable voltage is impossible.
4. The software screenshots look extremely cheap and poorly put together.
5. The price tag is outrageous considering the last mod they released was the same price and launched with software issues.
6. Some of the claims it has are very dubious sounding.
7. It appears to be a desperate, rushed device that was announced only weeks after the ML class failed to gain any real traction.
8. Yihi hasn't been doing too well lately.

These aren't exactly matters of opinion, they're facts. When people ignore that many red flags it just looks like, well, denial. Yihi releasing a flagship mod two months after a version two of their old flagship mod was released to poor responses from customers is SKETCHY. Then all these claims, some of which are basically lies. I just don't find it right to see hype being drummed up for a mod that can't do some of the things it says, and that isn't opinion, I won't have to wait for it to be released, you can't just change the fundamental limitations of electronics.

 

[Hyperspace]

They aren't concerns, they're REAL technological limitations. There's one thing about preference, then there's straight denial.

1. There are no true 30A CDR 18650's
2. Getting a flat, direct 200W even with boost safely out of two 18650's is impossible.
3. Firing anything under 0.01ohms with only 200W at a vapable voltage is impossible.
4. The software screenshots look extremely cheap and poorly put together.
5. The price tag is outrageous considering the last mod they released was the same price and launched with software issues.
6. Some of the claims it has are very dubious sounding.
7. It appears to be a desperate, rushed device that was announced only weeks after the ML class failed to gain any real traction.
8. Yihi hasn't been doing too well lately.

These aren't exactly matters of opinion, they're facts. When people ignore that many red flags it just looks like, well, denial.

I get it, you don't like the mod, so don't buy one. Like I said in my first post this thread isn't about the batteries. You're breaking the rules here. Please bring your red flags to the battery red flag thread. SXmini Q Class Powered by YiHi SX450 chip

 

[Mikhail Ivan Naumov II]

I'm mentioning far more than just the batteries, so no I'm not breaking any rules. I'm not going to post in a dead thread you destroyed for being too 'repetitive' either. This thread is repetitive, sale posts and hype back to back. I have a LIST of concerns, only one of which is the batteries. This has nothing to do with the mod, this is a dislike for companies lying to consumers, which you obviously support. You can't change the reality of electronics because you like a company. It's very obvious seeing Yihi picked at hurts your soul, but I'm not going to stop because one I'm not being insulting or disrespectful and two I'm being honest. I think the consumers have a right to read my concerns and think for themselves, not stare at page upon page of sale hype, which is all this thread is.

 

[retired1]

Actually you are. Let's watch the acronyms and language.

 

[Mikhail Ivan Naumov II]

What language?

 

[smokinGAVIN]

They aren't concerns, they're REAL technological limitations. There's one thing about preference, then there's straight denial.

1. There are no true 30A CDR 18650's
2. Getting a flat, direct 200W even with boost safely out of two 18650's is impossible.
3. Firing anything under 0.01ohms with only 200W at a vapable voltage is impossible.
4. The software screenshots look extremely cheap and poorly put together.
5. The price tag is outrageous considering the last mod they released was the same price and launched with software issues.
6. Some of the claims it has are very dubious sounding.
7. It appears to be a desperate, rushed device that was announced only weeks after the ML class failed to gain any real traction.
8. Yihi hasn't been doing too well lately.

These aren't exactly matters of opinion, they're facts. When people ignore that many red flags it just looks like, well, denial. Yihi releasing a flagship mod two months after a version two of their old flagship mod was released to poor responses from customers is SKETCHY. Then all these claims, some of which are basically lies. I just don't find it right to see hype being drummed up for a mod that can't do some of the things it says, and that isn't opinion, I won't have to wait for it to be released, you can't just change the fundamental limitations of electronics.

The SX mini series hasn't let me down yet. In my opinion it's a solid mod. The only fault I see is the wearing off of the finish but I guess that's because I put it in my pocket. I have the M and ML class and I always use them. Your concerns are not really my concerns since I don't go below .4 ohms and I don't fire more than 45 watts. I don't need the 200 watts. The reason I will buy the Q class when I find one is because of the 2 batteries.

 

[Mikhail Ivan Naumov II]

Am I saying this mod won't function well? No, I'm not. I just think it's distasteful to mention features that a mod cannot by electronic limitations do. It's lying to consumers. If they mention two things that clearly can't be done, what else can't the mod do? Plus I feel the tsunami of Yihi-powered products hitting shelves ever since the DNA200 released is also evidence to them rushing out products. If you gave this mod a few more months in development I'm sure it'd be just fantastic. As of right now, given the ML Class launch I don't have super high hopes for the Q-Class on day one.

 

[smokinGAVIN]

I just realized I talked about batteries. Sorry.

 

[Smeef]

So why not start your own thread? Some people will buy this. They will buy because they have had good experience with Yihi boards. If you don't want to purchase one yourself, nobody is telling you to do so, so why try and tell those who do want to purchase one not to? I for one would grab one, not for the fact it's claimed to do 200 watts, but because there is a small number of dual battery mods on the market that have the Yihi board in them. And I don't mean a Yihi board like in an IPV or something of that nature. Those boards can't hold a candle to the J line.

Sent from outer space via telegraph.

 

[smokinGAVIN]

Am I saying this mod won't function well? No, I'm not. I just think it's distasteful to mention features that a mod cannot by electronic limitation do. It's lying to consumers.

I think it's a given that it is not safe at 200 watts. We here kind of know that already. Between @Mooch and @Baditude, we pretty much have a wealth of information within reach.

 

[Mikhail Ivan Naumov II]

It's a SX Mini Q Class thread, I post real concerns, and I can already feel the tension and hate. No need to worry about me, I'll be leaving this forum and never logging back in, not a fan of posting in mindless sheeple country. I now see why every other vaping forum says 'Go back to ECF' when people act like, well, you people. All I did was list my concerns, and I get flak for it? God forbid I have an opinion that's different than someone else's. God forbid anyone be offended, let's all just listen to the nice companies and give them our money. If someone else doesn't like the product, wants to warn people of red flags, let's try to get him out. If it's not safe at 200W, don't release a 200W mod for idiots to go buy, vent batteries in, then get a news story funding big-tobacco hate for us. I guess it all comes down if you can vape today and smile, not the future, not people's money, not concerns. Just press the button, s1ck vap0rs, and go about your day. Glad I didn't waste too much time here, I equate this forum to Jonestown.

 

[Mooch]

They aren't concerns, they're REAL technological limitations. There's one thing about preference, then there's straight denial.

1. There are no true 30A CDR 18650's
2. Getting a flat, direct 200W even with boost safely out of two 18650's is impossible.
3. Firing anything under 0.01ohms with only 200W at a vapable voltage is impossible.
4. The software screenshots look extremely cheap and poorly put together.
5. The price tag is outrageous considering the last mod they released was the same price and launched with software issues.
6. Some of the claims it has are very dubious sounding.
7. It appears to be a desperate, rushed device that was announced only weeks after the ML class failed to gain any real traction.
8. Yihi hasn't been doing too well lately.

These aren't exactly matters of opinion, they're facts. When people ignore that many red flags it just looks like, well, denial. Yihi releasing a flagship mod two months after a version two of their old flagship mod was released to poor responses from customers is SKETCHY. Then all these claims, some of which are basically lies. I just don't find it right to see hype being drummed up for a mod that can't do some of the things it says, and that isn't opinion, I won't have to wait for it to be released, you can't just change the fundamental limitations of electronics.

While I agree with a lot of your points, #1 and #2 are incorrect...

1) The LG HB2, HB4, and HB6 are true 30A batteries. Arguably, so is the VTC3 (if you allow it to run a bit hot).

2) You can easily pulse any decent 20A battery at levels above 100W and still have them operate at usable voltage levels. My pulse tests regularly discharge them at roughly 175W each. If you only meant for that particular mod then you might be right but I'd have to see the oscilloscope shots to know for sure.

 

[Hyperspace]

I ran across a new photo of the Q on FB and I have to admit the size did surprise me but it's not going to stop me from buying one.

 

[smokinGAVIN]

I ran across a new photo of the Q on FB and I have to admit the size did surprise me but it's not going to stop me from buying one.

The Cuboid is about the same size as the M. I was hoping the Q would be about that size but even if it's not, I will still buy the Q.

 

[Hyperspace]

The Cuboid is about the same size as the M. I was hoping the Q would be about that size but even if it's not, I will still buy the Q.

I thought the Q would only be lightly larger than the ML to accommodate another battery. I can only guess the battery sled is the reason why it's taller than the ML.

 

[Smeef]

That is a bit disappointing IMO. Of course I'm used to my DIY dual SX350J in a Modmaker Wideboy enclosure. Has anyone seen actual dimensions of the Q?

 

[Hyperspace]

That is a bit disappointing IMO. Of course I'm used to my DIY dual SX350J in a Modmaker Wideboy enclosure. Has anyone seen actual dimensions of the Q?

I haven't seen any dimensions posted anywhere. You can trying asking on YIHI's Facebook page. Sometimes they answer questions and sometimes they don't, so don't hold your breath waiting.

SXmini

 

[Smeef]

I haven't seen any dimensions posted anywhere. You can trying asking on YIHI's Facebook page. Sometimes they answer questions and sometimes they don't, so don't hold your breath waiting.

SXmini

Question asked. Holding breath.