SXmini Q Class Powered by YiHi SX450 chip

[BobC]

My unserstanding of the Evolv DNA200 is, in a 2s setup (2 batteries) the chip limits to 133w max

 

[Gazoo2You]

Not sure why everyone is focused on the numbers? I have had several boxes, Sigelei, iPVs that were 150-200watts yet only vape at about 25watts. It's not about vaping at 200w or even close to it, but allowing your mod to last all day away from home, rather than carry extra batteries.

 

[deucesjack]

Not sure why everyone is focused on the numbers? I have had several boxes, Sigelei, iPVs that were 150-200watts yet only vape at about 25watts. It's not about vaping at 200w or even close to it, but allowing your mod to last all day away from home, rather than carry extra batteries.

Exactly right.

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[Pdizzle]

No its about companies advertising 200watts and on dual cells and not disclaiming that your not getting a steady 200watts for the duration of the vape. And then the safety factor is a different story. Sure you or I are never going to need 200 watts but lots of people will try to hit it at that high with non sufficient batteries

 

[dleister1981]

No its about companies advertising 200watts and on dual cells and not disclaiming that your not getting a steady 200watts for the duration of the vape. And then the safety factor is a different story. Sure you or I are never going to need 200 watts but lots of people will try to hit it at that high with non sufficient batteries

we can do this pretty easily with a mech too, its not a new thing to have to think about safety while vaping, one has to use thier head, side note, im gonna guess that power mode resistance lower end will be .1 ohms, im not thinking anyone will be able to vape at 200w at .1 long enough to blow their face off. i have not tried this as it would most likely be the worst thing i have ever tasted

 

[tomr1088]

I don't care what the box outputs. As long as I have up to 100 watts that's all I need. And my sx mini never had one problem the whole time I have had it. Always reliable. Been waiting for a dual battery version as that's why I don't use it as much anymore. Since I got a few Dna200's (2x evolve reference mods, hobo X ultem, realeaux, and my own maxamps 1850mah that I built) I haven't used it much. Oh I never don't have my sx flask on me now that my third replacement fits my quality standards

Oh and even tho I like the flask cause of the size and comfort depending on how the q class fits in hand I could see it replacing the flask. We will see tho. Don't really care about the v2 chip everything I liked the v1 chip for the v2 chip didn't change. And I personally don't care for the v2 chips extra features. I mean between the 5 power modes I don't really need another 5 power onset curves to click through. I do like the c1-c5 configurations tho for when swapping different wire types and whatnot.

 

[Yozhik]

I may be able to give you some insight now that I've played with the SXI-Q software a bit on the ML. Whether or not this crosses over to the Sx450 only time will tell.

To start the SXI-Q is not necessary at all on the ML unless you want to do a firmware update or create custom output curves where you'd use S1-S5 rather than the Preset modes of Powerful, Powerful+, Eco, Standard or Soft. Everything else can be configured directly on the device. In regard to the power output the approach of SXI-Q is not the same as Escribe where in Escribe you can set a static Preheat for a static period of time when in Temp limiting mode. SXI-Q you set variable output levels with the use of 21 data points over a 10 sec period for either Power or Temp Limiting mode up to 100W in the first second on the ML. Another point worth noting is while it's necessary to use Escribe to set a custom TCR for different wire types it's not necessary to use SXI-Q for the ML as it can be done on the device directly but optionally can be done through the software. Also while Escribe attempts to provide approximations of real time data, SXI-Q does not and is mainly a configuration tool for the settings for the vaping experience. There's no Battery analyzer, Watt Hour calculator, Mod Analyzer, Atty Analyzer, Device Monitor etc.. that one would use within SXI-Q to get the device up and vaping.

The interface itself could use some work. It could use some mouse over help tags, more copy and save fields, direct input fields rather than drag and drop, disabling selections like Ni200, TI when Power mode is selected and probably more I haven't come across with my limited use, but overall it's not terrible. Being it's mainly a tool for configuring output settings it's much less complex than Escribe so easier to get setup and vaping for the average consumer. It took me all of 10 min to figure out how to create a custom curve, put it on the scope and vape it, all without reading the docs. But being less complex it will not provide any real time approximations either. For me, my device is configured and .sxc file saved, so most my config changes will be made directly on the device when needed and I won't be utilizing the SXI-Q software very often. It's a nice feature to play with if the Preset modes don't meet the needs of the builds, I've created 3 additional S1-S3 that I can select 2 are slightly more powerful than Powerful+ and the other is similar to Soft.

Personally I don't see the two apps being very similar. They have different purpose and features, one's required and the other is optional and each will appeal to different consumers.

The lack of a menu setting to change the preheat on the DNA-200 is my biggest pet peeve about that chip. It was utterly useless to me when I first got it. Only after I spent hours figuring out how to run escribe via virtualbox could I get the mod to actually be useful. As such, I would never recommend it to anyone unless they like meddling with software. In my opinion, the SX-350j or more dated DNA-40 are still the best chips for the majority of vapors.

The SXI-Q sounds like less a hassle than escribe, but it still sounds like a hassle. Fundamentally, neither SXI-Q or escribe can offer me what I actually want, which is to select an atomizer and e-liquid and then have the software automatically configure the mod to a good default. More control in itself isn't necessarily better, as I've learned with the DNA-200.

 

[retird]

what I actually want, which is to select an atomizer and e-liquid and then have the software automatically configure the mod to a good default.

ME TOO....I want a perfect e-cig and many times I have posted saying I like fiddle free vaping..

I recall Brandon saying their goal is to have a perfect e-cig... and I'm thinkin' they are still working toward that...

No manufacturer in my view has come with that perfect e-cig yet thus we see "new and improved" stuff coming (an example is the SX-Q being talked about here). The DNA200 came out and the M-class at about the same time and since then the ML came out and now the Q is coming. Other manufacturers brought new stuff at about the same time as the DNA and M-class too and they too are working on the next "new and improved".

Who benefits? Yes we do.....

If your desired device satisfies your needs that is all that matters whether it is a DNA, ML, Provari, Clank-tech,etc.

 

[roxynoodle]

I haven't even considered a DNA200 because frankly, I don't want to go through that much bother to dial in my vape. Really, my M classes and Renegade X make me very happy with what I can do with them. Even a simple Sigelei 100W is fine in my book

 

[Stinkytofus]

cant wait for this device to drop, dual 18650 baby, the other options were cloudmaker, boxer, and vaporflask, but this will have the newest chip from yihi for around the same price

 

[Hyperspace]

cant wait for this device to drop, dual 18650 baby, the other options were cloudmaker, boxer, and vaporflask, but this will have the newest chip from yihi for around the same price

Don't forget Renegade X is a dual 18650 YIHI chip mod too.

 

[HandsomeStan]

More information and photos I captured from their latest video...
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The more I look at these the more I want one, it's design is really growing on me, and unless that guy has giant hands it doesn't look that big!

I really want to know how solid those covers attach, if there is any play or rattle then it will ruin the quality feel you expect from an sx mini.

 

[Stinkytofus]

People worry too much about "200w is not safe with two batteries"

Yea it wont be safe if u take a very very long pull or contantly pulling at that wattage

i believe most people hang around the 30-50watt range and sometimes go high for a more intense and high powered vape

 

[retird]

Why design a 2 cell device that is unsafe at 200 watts if most vape around 30/50 watts? Why not design it within the safe parameters of the batteries and be done with it?

 

[Hyperspace]

Why design a 2 cell device that is unsafe at 200 watts if most vape around 30/50 watts? Why not design it within the safe parameters of the batteries and be done with it?

Probably because the competition is selling 200 watt mods.

 

[retird]

Yep and some of the competition are selling 133 watt devices done right too....

 

[Hyperspace]

Yep and some of the competition are selling 133 watt devices done right too....

Never heard of a 133 watt mod. Who makes that?

One thing I don't understand is why is YIHI getting more flack than the other 200 watt mod manufactures?

 

[retird]

Never heard of a 133 watt mod. Who makes that?

One thing I don't understand is why is YIHI getting more flack than the other 200 watt mod manufactures?

Didn't know Yihi was getting more flack.... this is a Yihi discussion thread...

Here is just one link to 133 and 150 watt device:

You searched for boxer - Ginger Vaper

 

[Vlad1]

Never heard of a 133 watt mod. Who makes that?

One thing I don't understand is why is YIHI getting more flack than the other 200 watt mod manufactures?

I think by "right" the post means afterthought, as in not planned on or designed for it until after the fact, or limited without boost circuitry and low input current etc.. There are numerous devices doing 200w dual cell configuration already but apparently the other camps feel much more threatened by this one, hence the propaganda and assumptions.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Hi people,

is there a link to download the sxi-Q SW?? I cant find it on the yihi site...