T/C Device with Wattage Limit

[Visivicous]

I'm looking for a T/C device for MTL. The only T/C APV that I have used is the Kanger topbox Mini, and I won't be using that again. The thing has no Wattage limit in T/C mode that I could find, and after watching pbusardo's review, he could not find it either. When I used it, the first few hits would be terrible. MTL just is not good at 75 watts! Once the coil heated up, the wattage would drop to keep the right temperature, and the vape was 'ok', but not great. But 75 watts put way too much stress on the coil: it disintegrated after several minutes of use.

So I am looking for a mod, preferably one that is not too expensive, that has a user defined watt limit when in T/C mode. All of the descriptions, and even the manuals, of the devices which I have checked do not mention anything about limiting watts in T/C.

I prefer compact devices, so I was interested in the eleaf istick Pico, but could not find the info I need on it. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Hitmetwice]

On my IPV D2 the joules can be adjusted down to 10J. Pretty low.
It goes up to 50J and is a 75 watt device. Cheers.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Just curious......shouldn't you be responsible for limiting whatever range you want on the device? No where have I ever read that you have to vape any coil at it max level. The point of having coils that can do that kind of power reaches the widest possible range of ppl looking to find their preferred settings. No requirement to actually use at any given level. So what if you have a coil that the manufacture says 30-80 watts and you find you like it at or below 30 in power mode(if kantinal--sp). The coil would last longer imo. Learning what each type does is your best bet. Don't blame it on the device. TC is set at your level by you.

 

[Hitmetwice]

Just curious......shouldn't you be responsible for limiting whatever range you want on the device? No where have I ever read that you have to vape any coil at it max level. The point of having coils that can do that kind of power reaches the widest possible range of ppl looking to find their preferred settings. No requirement to actually use at any given level. So what if you have a coil that the manufacture says 30-80 watts and you find you like it at or below 30 in power mode(if kantinal--sp). The coil would last longer imo. Learning what each type does is your best bet. Don't blame it on the device.

There are devices that are fixed wattage in TC. Eleaf tc40, tc60, the kanger that the OP has, there are probably others. They hit full wattage in TC modes. fyi. Cheers.

 

[Izan]

Evic mini will allow independent wattage adjustment in TC mode. 1W-75W
(and by association, cuboid/mini.)

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

There are devices that are fixed wattage in TC. Eleaf tc40, tc60, the kanger that the OP has, there are probably others. They hit full wattage in TC modes. fyi. Cheers.

Thanks.
If you are saying that there is no control over your vape if you use these devices, then what is the point of the range? Still learning myself so I do appreciate any input.

 

[Hitmetwice]

Thanks.
If you are saying that there is no control over your vape if you use these devices, then what is the point of the range? Still learning myself so I do appreciate any input.

Watts are adjustable in wattage mode.
Temp. is adjustable in temp mode.
The istick 40 works great this way even if the coil is rated lower than 40 max. Cheers.

 

[Visivicous]

So, only a few devices do not allow wattage control in T/C mode, and I was just unlucky enough to get one of those? I'm not sure what the norm is. Sugar_and_Spice seems to be under the impression that wattage control in T/C is normal. My experience is based only on the once device that I have, and the darn thing goes full blast, with no way to manually set a limit.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Watts are adjustable in wattage mode.
Temp. is adjustable in temp mode.
The istick 40 works great this way even if the coil is rated lower than 40 max. Cheers.

Thanks, I know this, I was referring to the op device and why would a device dictates what it to be used?

 

[OhTheAgony]

Thanks, I know this, I was referring to the op device and why would a device dictates what it to be used?

You only set the max wattage in tempt control mode, which dictates how quickly your coil gets to the set temperature.

The problem TS is having is that his device doesn't allow the wattage to be turned down in TC mode so it always heats up on max power, before it throttles down to maintain the set temperature.

It varies from mod to mod. My Evic VT only goes down to 30W in TC mode for instance.

 

[Visivicous]

Shoot. I don't have the money to buy a dozen different mods and hope that one of them has the feature that I need. Anyone know of a database or spreadsheet of mods that cover specs like this? Manufacturers don't seem to think it is important info for their customers, but maybe some consumers have gotten together and made a list of specs?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Thanks. I now know to stay away from those particular devices. When it comes to my safety, I want the control. Too bad that the users aren't aware of these conditions before they buy the product. Shame on these manufactors.......again the $ dicates their rush to market these devices instead of consumer safety.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Shoot. I don't have the money to buy a dozen different mods and hope that one of them has the feature that I need. Anyone know of a database or spreadsheet of mods that cover specs like this? Manufacturers don't seem to think it is important info for their customers, but maybe some consumers have gotten together and made a list of specs?

It seems that the evic mini will do what you need. I have istick 60's and they too seem to allow user input. I haven't used the tc yet as I wanted to make absolutely sure of what I was doing before I tried it. I now use the istick with the eleaf coil .03ohm in kanthal 30-80 watts in power mode. This may be more suitable to what you are looking for Both of these mods appear to be reasonable in price. Got my istick 60's at vapenw. Under $30.00
Good luck to you.
Let us know how you are doing when you find something that meets your requirements.

 

[OhTheAgony]

It seems that the evic mini will do what you need. I have istick 60's and they too seem to allow user input. I haven't used the tc yet as I wanted to make absolutely sure of what I was doing before I tried it. I now use the istick with the eleaf coil .03ohm in kanthal 30-80 watts in power mode. This may be more suitable to what you are looking for Both of these mods appear to be reasonable in price. Got my istick 60's at vapenw. Under $30.00
Good luck to you.
Let us know how you are doing when you find something that meets your requirements.

The 60W istick is 60W only in TC mode. I know you're only trying to help but please do the research before you give people advice.

Sorry @Visivicous , not sure if such a list exists and I don't know any device that goes down to 1W in TC mode from the top of my head.

But how much watts you draw will also depend on which coils you use. With a single titanium 28g wire coil at around 0,5 ohm on the RBA of my Toptank my Evic VT never even goes above 22W in TC mode for example. It touches 22W for less then a second on start-up and then it keeps throttling between 0 and 16 watts to maintain the set temperature.

I have no experience with the Kanger Topbox but perhaps you just need to try out a different coil with a higher resistance to have a more pleasant vape-experience? And you can always resort to wattage mode and set a low wattage too of course with one of the non TC-coils that comes with it.

Good luck and have a little patience. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable then me will come by this thread sooner or later.

 

[Hitmetwice]

I'm looking for a T/C device for MTL. The only T/C APV that I have used is the Kanger TopBox Mini, and I won't be using that again. The thing has no Wattage limit in T/C mode that I could find, and after watching pbusardo's review, he could not find it either. When I used it, the first few hits would be terrible. MTL just is not good at 75 watts! Once the coil heated up, the wattage would drop to keep the right temperature, and the vape was 'ok', but not great. But 75 watts put way too much stress on the coil: it disintegrated after several minutes of use.

So I am looking for a mod, preferably one that is not too expensive, that has a user defined watt limit when in T/C mode. All of the descriptions, and even the manuals, of the devices which I have checked do not mention anything about limiting watts in T/C.

I prefer compact devices, so I was interested in the Eleaf iStick Pico, but could not find the info I need on it. Any help would be appreciated.

OP, you should be able to simply lower the temp, take a longer draw and get a great vape, but I may be all wet on that. I know the 40 watt istick works fine in tc with coils that have lower than 40 watt ratings. Just by starting at a low temp. and stepping it up slowly.
I knew exactly what I was getting before buying the istick 40 because I researched it first. Watched a few reviews,
simple! Cheers.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

The 60W istick is 60W only in TC mode. I know you're only trying to help but please do the research before you give people advice.

Not sure of what advice you thought I was giving? I only agreed with what you stated and what I was using. Did not advise him to buy it.

 

[OhTheAgony]

Not sure of what advice you thought I was giving? I only agreed with what you stated and what I was using. Did not advise him to buy it.

I was under the impression you stated that the iStick 60W TC would allow the user to change the wattage in TC mode when you wrote "I have istick 60's and they too seem to allow user input.", but apologies if I misunderstood.

Not sure about that Evic VTC neither frankly. I think it won't go below 30W in TC mode but I can't find the info to confirm or disproof this right now.

I'm with HitmeTwice on this though @Visivicous , it really shouldn't be necessary to go down that low in wattage in TC mode as most if not all coils available for the Toptank simply won't draw that kind of wattage in TC mode.

I find it hard to understand that you draw 70W in TC mode to be honest. Are you sure you use the right settings and the right coil to match those settings?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I was under the impression you stated that the iStick 60W TC would allow the user to change the wattage in TC mode when you wrote "I have istick 60's and they too seem to allow user input.", but apologies if I misunderstood.

Thanks. I really only mentioned the istick 60 because of op statement that he was a MTL hitter. I should have been more clear as to why.

 

[KenD]

I was under the impression you stated that the iStick 60W TC would allow the user to change the wattage in TC mode when you wrote "I have istick 60's and they too seem to allow user input.", but apologies if I misunderstood.

Not sure about that Evic VTC neither frankly. I think it won't go below 30W in TC mode but I can't find the info to confirm or disproof this right now.

I'm with HitmeTwice on this though @Visivicous , it really shouldn't be necessary to go down that low in wattage in TC mode as most if not all coils available for the Toptank simply won't draw that kind of wattage in TC mode.

I find it hard to understand that you draw 70W in TC mode to be honest. Are you sure you use the right settings and the right coil to match those settings?

The VTC mini will go from 1 to 75w in both tc and vw mode. All current Joyetech/Wismec/iStick (Pico, tc100w) will go down to 1w.

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[OhTheAgony]

Thanks. I really only mentioned the istick 60 because of op statement that he was a MTL hitter. I should have been more clear as to why.

The VTC mini will go from 1 to 75w in both tc and vw mode. All current Joyetech/Wismec/iStick (Pico, tc100w) will go down to 1w.

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