Tabacco Flavor = Nicotine + Pepper?

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WillPower

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I think a few or many people (including myself) looking for tabacco flavor to make the unflavored nicotine e-liquid tastes like an analog cigarette. I am wondering if we are looking for the wrong flavor.

tabacco (cigarette) flavor = nicotine + other 4,000 chemicals like formaldehyde, tar, glue, ash, etc.

If we use, say, 10mg unflavored e-liquid, the liquid already has nicotine equivalent to analog cigs, at the puff to puff match level. So, if one wants the e-liquid taste like an analog, what we need to add is not tabacco flavor but the flavor of the other 4,000 chemicals.

I don't know what gaseous tar and formaldehyde taste like. But I do know there is certain tingling or stinging sensation in analog, something like pepper or peprica.

Has anyone tried pepper or some other flavors simulates the taste of tar and formaldehyde, rather than searching for tabacco flavor? OF COURSE, we DON'T want to actually add these chemicals back in. :)

I know it sounds sick and twisted. But I can help thinking that the toxic chemical would overwhelm any natural tabacco leaf flavor. I am just wondering if real tabacco or cig flavor really comprise nicotine and mostly the gaseous toxic chemicals.
 

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Be careful, that stuff is used in pepper spray I think!

The cigar flavour (e-cigs.co.uk) and Janty's Heavy Shag Tobacco both have pepper oil in them. Sometimes it feels like I'm smoking my pepper mill.

The one I am using is a dietary supplement. It's other ingredients are simply water and alcohol. There's even a cayenne nasal inhaler on the market right now.

Anywho, that's why I'm in the Lab. Someone has to do it. (Well not really, but I'm gonna anyway)
 

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Be careful, that stuff is used in pepper spray I think!

The cigar flavour (e-cigs.co.uk) and Janty's Heavy Shag Tobacco both have pepper oil in them. Sometimes it feels like I'm smoking my pepper mill.

Pepper spray! Oddly, that's what I was thinking. :)

It has been awhile since I smoked an analog (not even one since I got my first vaporizer). But, I do remember the certain stinging sensation from the analogs and also the cig flavor e-liquid.

But, yes, absolutely for the safety. I was thinking just a hint of it, of course.

Nonetheless, this could be all moot point at least for me. As many wise experienced e-smokers in this forum indicated, including Walrus, I find myself gradually weaning off from the tabacco taste/flavor.

But, as a beginner, it is confusing when trying to separating the "signal" of nicotine intake from toxic fume intake. My body is just not used to separating this (obviously because there had been no need for this). Very interesting...
 

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The one I am using is a dietary supplement. It's other ingredients are simply water and alcohol. There's even a cayenne nasal inhaler on the market right now.

Anywho, that's why I'm in the Lab. Someone has to do it. (Well not really, but I'm gonna anyway)

Done man, Cayenne extract does nothing for throat hit IMO, however it does burn the crap out of your lips. And it does nothing for flavor either.
 

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I get a pretty strong pepper taste after vaping PS Riskee Yuice for several hours. Don't know why I don't notice it when starting to vape it. Unless it's the higher nic that gives the peppery taste...usually vape the higher mg. at night.

I got that peppery taste with it too....and mine was 36mg. I thought that might have had something to do with it too.

Lu
 

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Apologies if this is not the proper place to ask this question, but I've looked for a thread discussing tobacco flavors and haven't found it. If you know where one is, please just point me in that direction. :oops:

My question is: what are RY3, RY4, TAB, 555 etc? From the context I see these mentioned in, I gather that they're tobacco flavors. But what the heck do they mean? Camel, Marlboro, French Pipe....those I understand. I've seen the RY's for sale on a couple of sites, but never an explanation for what that means.
 

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I found at first the e-liquid actually had a tingly-peppery taste, it reminded me of a strong pack of Export A that I bought years ago. Since those were strong, and so was the liquid, I figured the tingly-peppery was actually nicotine. I don't know if that's the case or not, but since becoming accustomed to my liquid, I no longer get that tingle.
 

johnny bravo

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As for pepper spay, they probably use pure capsaicin, pepper spray is rated at around 2,000,000 and police issue is around 5,000,000 SHU's (Scoville heat units) while a cayenne pepper is around 40,000. Capsaicin crystals are rated at 15-16,000,000 so they probably water them down for the spray, you could always buy some and try to vape that 8-o
 

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The one I am using is a dietary supplement. It's other ingredients are simply water and alcohol. There's even a cayenne nasal inhaler on the market right now.

Anywho, that's why I'm in the Lab. Someone has to do it. (Well not really, but I'm gonna anyway)


I'll be anxiously waiting to hear the results.
 
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