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cmecha

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i picked up some 18650 trustfires from madvapes and they worked well to begin with but i feel like i'm not getting much out of them now i only used them for a month and charged them every night, i picked up a new one this week and it hit likes a champ. is this common? also are there any batterys this won't happen with?
 

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All batteries will lose some of their oomph over time. Try the 18650 "high-drain" batteries. They hold a consistant voltage longer than a regular battery.
I don't know why but I've heard of a few other people that said they got batteries from madvapes that were kinda crappy.
They should def last longer than a month though, and especiAlly non-proprietary batteries like the 18650s. Proprietary batteries generally last about 250-300 charge cycles, while a non-proprietary battery can even last up to 1000 charge cycles.
I use an Epower which uses non-proprietary batteries and ive been using the same batteries for over 3months and they still work like the day I for them.
I recommend not charging them overnight. As soon as he light shows their fully charged take them off the charger.
Also I wouldn't let them drain all te way down. Put them back on the charger when there's about 25% left. They will last longer
 

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I recommend not charging them overnight. As soon as he light shows their fully charged take them off the charger.
Also I wouldn't let them drain all te way down. Put them back on the charger when there's about 25% left. They will last longer

I'll second the above...................................:2cool:
 

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If you are pulling too many amperes from the TF battery, they will be internally damaged a little bit each time they are used.

If you are using LR atomizers or cartomizer with the TF battery, then a short life cycle is typical. A month is a bit on the pretty-darn-short side. When I used TF on LR attys and cartos I destroyed them in a few months.

A high drain, like the AW IMR as one example, will not be damaged with the current drains we see with LR attys and cartos. I could go into the math and the meanings of C ratings on the batteries if you are looking for a boring read.
 

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I find that a lot of the trustfires and ultrafires dont work great in PVs.
What PV do you use?
Like I said before, I would def get some AW IMR high drain batteries. They work really well. And if your using an unregulated PV they will give a much more consistant vape as te battery drains.
You can he the AW IMRs from RTDvapor and Super T Manufacturing. I like Super T bc their shipping is only $1.70.
I would also get a multimeter if you don't have one so you can tell when your battery gets to about 25% left.
You can get the one that madvapes sells on eBay for $3-4 bucks. I have one and it works well. You'll be able to check your batteries and also the ohms of cartos. If you get it on eBay it does come from china but it didn't take that long. I got mine in about 10 days
 

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Ok batt geeks. Or just anybody that just knows more than me about them. :) (which isn't saying much)

I just got a silver bullet and I have 18650 batts for 3.7V vaping. I understand I can get CR123 batts and I'll have 5(or 6)V vaping.

I got the charger from altsmoke (Trustfile multifunctional Charger?), but I'm not sure if it will charge the cr123's. Will it?

If not, is the following a good charger that will charge both batts?

Trustfire TR-001 3.6/3.7 Volt Charger:
 

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You're going to spend a little more but the AW brand is the way to go. Also, they hold a true 3.7V for a longer period of time versus other brands. If your mod is all mechanical, the red jackets are the ones to use. I'm slowly switching all of mine over as I kill off the ones I have. Some of my trustfires and ultrafires are a year old but not used very much. Once they are dead, AW is all I will be using.
 

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Ok batt geeks. Or just anybody that just knows more than me about them. :) (which isn't saying much)

I just got a silver bullet and I have 18650 batts for 3.7V vaping. I understand I can get CR123 batts and I'll have 5(or 6)V vaping.

I got the charger from altsmoke (Trustfile multifunctional Charger?), but I'm not sure if it will charge the cr123's. Will it?

If not, is the following a good charger that will charge both batts?

Trustfire TR-001 3.6/3.7 Volt Charger:

3V batteries have to have a 3V charger. Tenergy makes a nice 3V charger that a lot of vendors carry. Trustfire WF-188 charger will charge both. UltraFire WF-188 Smart Charger TR-001 won't work for 3V batteries.
 
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Ok batt geeks. Or just anybody that just knows more than me about them. :) (which isn't saying much)

I just got a silver bullet and I have 18650 batts for 3.7V vaping. I understand I can get CR123 batts and I'll have 5(or 6)V vaping.

I got the charger from altsmoke (Trustfile multifunctional Charger?), but I'm not sure if it will charge the cr123's. Will it?

If not, is the following a good charger that will charge both batts?

Trustfire TR-001 3.6/3.7 Volt Charger:

The problem making a recommendation here is that I have seen CR123 batteries with different voltages. The charger has to match the battery voltage. (I have encountered 3 different voltages for this same battery, but 3.0 and 3.7 are the most common by a huge margin.)

There can also be an issue with the charge capacity of the battery and the monitor circuitry of the charger, but usually if the charger is capable of holding the shorter, smaller capacity, battery, then the circuitry is capable of working correctly.
 

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3V batteries have to have a 3V charger. Tenergy makes a nice 3V charger that a lot of vendors carry. Trustfire WF-188 charger will charge both. UltraFire WF-188 Smart Charger TR-001 won't work for 3V batteries.

The problem making a recommendation here is that I have seen CR123 batteries with different voltages. The charger has to match the battery voltage. (I have encountered 3 different voltages for this same battery, but 3.0 and 3.7 are the most common by a huge margin.)

There can also be an issue with the charge capacity of the battery and the monitor circuitry of the charger, but usually if the charger is capable of holding the shorter, smaller capacity, battery, then the circuitry is capable of working correctly.

Sorry. Yes, I should have said I was talking about 3V cr123's

Ok. I think I got it. a 3.7V charger will try and pump too much juice into the 3V batt? (How do you like that tech talk, eh?)

The wf-188 says 3.2 and 3.6v switchable:

3.2 won't be too much for 3V batt?

3.6v will be enough to fully charge a 3.7V?

And, I couldn't tell but the review on the page seems to imply that you have to charge 2 batts at a time. Can you charge one 18650 by itself in this charger?

Thanks again!!!!
 

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i'm using a rough stack and a TR-001

You should def get the AW IMR High-Drains then. The RS is unregulated and has a significant drop in vaping performance as the battery drains. The High-Drains will give a a much more consistant vape. They are alittle more expensive, but are totally worth it
 
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