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Maxmiro

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Hi all,
I am a new canadian vaper and just received my joye302 starter kit from happy vaper and 45ml of crystal liquid e-juice from electronic-cigz(tobaco, menthol and french vanilla). I have tried vaping from both the tobaco and menthol flavour but after filling up two different carts with each of them I found out they both tasted the same thing which is the smell of the e-juice itself. It does not taste bad but certainly not tobaco and even less menthol. When filling my carts all I do is I drop liquid until the cart is flooded, try to vape then fill the cart a little bit again. I even tried driping 2 drops of the liquid on the atty but it gave me the same taste and I am a little bit scared of breaking my batery by doing this.

Hope someone can help :)
 

Hellen A. Handbasket

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Max, the menthol is pretty strong stuff. It is taking over your atomizer. I use one separate atty for Menthol. There is metal mesh inside an atty, and the flavors 'stick' in there. I run several atomizers and mark the atty with stickers or permanent marker so I know which one has what flavor. Some just don't layer over each other well at all.

You can try to clean it out. Blow out the liquid and soak for a little while with some Pure Grain Alcohol which will help to remove the flavor. Be sure to put about 5 drops after cleaning of your new flavor directly on the atty bridge to reprime it.

Buy some extra attys as soon as you can... you really should have some extras around. I recommend at least 5.

BTW, the Joye 302 is an awesome atty. I use it 90% of the day.
 

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Liquid from China can be pretty bad sometimes. I'd recommend trying out sample size bottles as often as you can. I stopped vaping most Chinese liquids because of the weird perfumy/chemical taste. Just bad stuff and the quality control on flavor has been terrible in the last 6 months or so.

I love the liquids from VaporStation (made in India and awesome flavors, if you like coffee flavors the Cafe Sumatra is awesome and the Frost tastes like Wriggleys Gum).

The Halo Menthols are pretty great. I also like their Smooth 8 and Freedom flavor (but didn't care for the over powering Harley 56 and Bella Vanilla though some love them).

I also like everything I've ever tried from Tasty Vapor.

I see you are in Canada, so you'll have to check their shipping to see if they'll post to you.

Also, if you join up with the Canadian vapers social group, you might get some good opinions from them about where to order. I know Happy Vapor is out of Canada. They sell Flavour Art flavorings so maybe you can add some to your other liquids to fix them up a bit? I believe their liquids are Dekang, but you'll have to ask them for sure.
 

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p.s. hellen while i agree that chinese juice suck's crystal liquid is made in the U.S.A.
Thanks Luck... I hadn't heard of Crystal. Looks interesting. Nice bottles. Reminds me of very much of Halo *grin* I'll send them an inquiry.

When you first start vaping, I think it takes a while for your taste buds to aclimate. I know stuff I didn't like when I started I loved a month later. Hang in there!

If you want killer menthol (I wanted my menthol liquids to blow the top of my head off and it helped me to quit smoking when I first started vaping) you can make your own with menthol drops to add to menthol liquids with the crystals and some Pure Grain Alcohol (PGA). A good recipe is here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/20590-menthol-drops-recipe-menthol-lovers.html
 

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Hi all,
I am a new canadian vaper and just received my joye302 starter kit from happy vaper and 45ml of crystal liquid e-juice from electronic-cigz(tobaco, menthol and french vanilla). I have tried vaping from both the tobaco and menthol flavour but after filling up two different carts with each of them I found out they both tasted the same thing which is the smell of the e-juice itself. It does not taste bad but certainly not tobaco and even less menthol. When filling my carts all I do is I drop liquid until the cart is flooded, try to vape then fill the cart a little bit again. I even tried driping 2 drops of the liquid on the atty but it gave me the same taste and I am a little bit scared of breaking my batery by doing this.

Hope someone can help :)

I do have two attys, I have just tried the menthol in the second one and it does taste a little different but not really like menthol, it still taste a little like the e-liquid.
It is not clear what actually transpired here. You will not find a liquid that mimicks burning cigarettes. Tobacco flavour is more like what the tobacco would smell like I guess.

You should not cross dress flavours, without cleaning the atty first. Some stronger flavours will eventually overpower some more subtle flavours, but never really mask them. That is why I normally have about 6-8 on the go at any given time, because I can't vape the same flavour all day.

Wrt menthol, many have tried but from what I have read some are close and that is about it. A menthol atty should be kept for menthol only. Vaping anything on a previously vaped menthol atty will bring out the menthol for a looooooong time.

How evr you have 3 distinct flavours and they should all taste different. Teh vanilla should have a sweet smell and taste to it.

Regardless, the menthol should bring out a certain coolness, that the other two do not provide.

Vaping is as close to "smoking" as one can get. What you think something should taste like, is not quite what you would think.

The other problem for a neophyte, is that you have an 801/302 atty. This is an atty that burns relatively cool in comparison with the 510. I know I have them. I am only starting to learn how to appreciate them. In all honesty, I don't think I ever will.

Some prefer the 302 as it provides a "wetter" tasting vapour. To me the 302 does not bring out the taste in vapour in comparison with my 510, and although thy produce good vapour, they pretty much make everything taste the same. I know you don't understand the last part of that sentence.

In order to get some taste out of your set up, gently exhale the smoke out of your nose, rolling it, like if you were smoking a cigar. 90% of the taste imparted to the brain coems from the offactory senses, and not the tongue.

Menthol should be a "coolness" across the tongue and not like peppermint or spearmint,l a certain freshness that is not sweet.

... and last but not least, do not drip with auto batteries. The 801/302 is intended to be vaped at 2 x 3-4 second mouth suck, with a couple minute intervals in between. As soon as the atty gets hot, it quits performing like it should, although the 801/302 vape relatively cool compared to the 510.
 
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The 510 attys will fit the 302, so you might just try one of those. I have the electonic-cigz menthol (it's a usa made juice btw) and I don't find it very menthol-ey. Just a slight taste. I also didn't find the vanilla very vanilla, but I still liked it.

If you're a brand new vaper it may take a short time to regain your tastebuds. It did for me. In the first week, everything tasted like cardboard :)
 

Maxmiro

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Ahh ok Sheep yeah my taste buds might just be saying F *** you since ive been smoking pipe tobaco and "medicinal herbs" for some years now. I have just tried the menthol again and it does not taste anything near menthol in fact, like I said, it taste what the juice smells. Just to make sure I am doing the good thing, I have to put drops of e-liquid in that small foam thing in the white plastic holder that is attached to the tip?
 
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Thank you Switched cleared up some things for me and I might try a 510 or one of those mods. Even after changing to the new atty I still dont get that coolness feeling with the mentol but it does taste different then my tobaco flavour.
That's nice, that is what it is suppose to taste like.

Here's my Mnethol recipe, free of charge.

Many from what I have read are still looking for the "perfect" menthol. It seems many sites have there impression of what menthol should taste like, and, the reviews are: to minty, taste too much like spearmint/peppermint etc... Menthol is not meant to taste like that. Menthol is a cool refreshing taste, that lingers on the palate, but does not leave you with the impression of cough drops or candy. This is my interpretation what Menthol should taste like:

4.5 mls PG based tobacco @ 24mg (Northern Vapour)
1.5 mls VG
20 drops Flavourart (Fa) arctic menthol

6.6 mls at 18 mgs

ratio 75/25 PG/VG ratio for base, then add flavouring. Tastes a little lighter than Cameo but stronger than Craven Menthols. It has a decent throat hit, cool refreshing with good vapour. I nice cool lingering feeling like a menthol should, not a peppermint/candy taste.

Vaped on a standard 510 and 510 direct passthru

Enjoy!
 

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Thank you Switched cleared up some things for me and I might try a 510 or one of those mods. Even after changing to the new atty I still dont get that coolness feeling with the mentol but it does taste different then my tobaco flavour.
Don't jump on no band wagon yet. Get yourself an 801-510 adapter (unsealed) you have auto batteries I believe, and a couple of 510 attys. Give those a whirl, then go from there.

E cig supply (Chad) has the real 510 attys. Although the adapter is a little on the long side (adds an inch overall), it can be later used if you ever get a Janty Stick. Joye 510 Parts/Accessories
 
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