Temp Control - I give up

[Mattymag_vapes]

Ok here's the deal, I hate a cold vape and I am not sold with this temperature control. I'm using a uwell Crown tank and with the 0.15 ohm Ni200 coil I tried everything, EVERYTHING. I'm used to vape at 70w big clouds and the warm vape suits me well. When I try TC it's like I'm breathing air. I'm also vaping a 6mg juice because I had a slip so I'm trying to up my nic level so I don't crave cigs when I'm stressed or whatever.

I have a triton coil in my other tank and it has a TC coil in it and I haven't touched it much. Any suggestions on a setting for safe vape? Like I was up to 500 degrees on 50 joules and the vape was warmer but I didn't get the throat hit like I'm used to. Maybe I'm too old school for this lol. Any help will be much appreciated!

Ps. Sorry for being a bit pissy but after investing in this TC and hearing everything is so perfect and it's the new big thing... Maybe I'm doing something wrong, maybe I should get a higher nic lever or go with something with more pg in it? I don't know I've tried so many things I'm at my ends here. I have a 90/10 and 70/30 vg/pg blends if that helps

 

[Rizzyking]

Best thing to do would be to go to the crown tank thread and have a read there as any suggestions likely to be there don't have the tank myself so can't even give you a link. Typically tc does mean a cooler vape unless you up the temp high which sort of defeats the purpose for me tc has given me new flavours from my liquid some flavours are more noticeable and more pronounced but it's different for everyone. Hope you get it sorted as nothing worse then buying something you don't get on with.

 

[Margucci]

what mod are you using? some have issues with TC. for example on my eVic VTC mini the temp control doesnt work as intended 29/30 times. the result is a extremely cool vape without much flavor. if you have a mod which is working correctly and the resistance of the coil is being read correctly i can assure you that if you set it to 600*F it will not be a cool vape.

 

[Mattymag_vapes]

@Mr.Mann any advise for my issues here with temp control?

 

[Mattymag_vapes]

what mod are you using? some have issues with TC. for example on my eVic VTC mini the temp control doesnt work as intended 29/30 times. the result is a extremely cool vape without much flavor. if you have a mod which is working correctly and the resistance of the coil is being read correctly i can assure you that if you set it to 600*F it will not be a cool vape.

I have a Sigelei 150w TC and I do get some warm vape out if I crank it up to say 500 degrees but I don't get the throat hits I'm use to. Maybe I should change my ratios in the liquid I vape. But I'm also worried that if I constantly vape at a high degree that it will be dangerous. I don't know

 

[Rizzyking]

What ratio is your liquid? more PG will increase throat hit if your able.

 

[Margucci]

I have a Sigelei 150w TC and I do get some warm vape out if I crank it up to say 500 degrees but I don't get the throat hits I'm use to. Maybe I should change my ratios in the liquid I vape. But I'm also worried that if I constantly vape at a high degree that it will be dangerous. I don't know

more than likely you are used to vaping close to or above 550* already. the entire point of temp control is that the wattage is lowered as the temperature increases. for example:

if i am vaping with my subtank on the 0.5ohm kanthal coil i usually have it set at about 40W. if i switch out that coil for the 0.15ohm Ni coil and set it at 40W and 500* i will hit temperature protection with ease. despite the fact that im using a lower resistance coil so i require more wattage to deliver the same voltage to the coil even at the same 40W the coil it still getting to that 500* i set.

all of this is normal. dont be afraid to bump up the temperature if thats what you like. as i said, you are almost certainly vaping that temperature anyways when you are in power mode. one other thing that i generally do with temp control is that i delay my inhale. usually i will press the fire button and wait about 2s to start my draw. this gives the coil time to get up to get up to temperature.

 

[Mr.Mann]

@Mattymag_vapes

Heya,

Not sure what to say, but at least you know how you like your vape--even if this isn't currently giving it to you. How high can your mod go up to in joules and temperature? I suspect you have either an SXmini M-Class or a Sigelei 150Watt TC (can't think of the other ones with Joules), in which case, if you have a Sigelei 150W TC, I say just bump that baby up until you reach your sweet spot. Like @Margucci said, you probably have an affinity for higher temperature normally, so keep pushing.

 

[Mattymag_vapes]

@Mattymag_vapes

Heya,

Not sure what to say, but at least you know how you like your vape--even if this isn't currently giving it to you. How high can your mod go up to in joules and temperature? I suspect you have either an SXmini M-Class or a Sigelei 150Watt TC, in which case, if you have a Sigelei 150W TC, I say just bump that baby up until you reach your sweet spot. Like @Margucci said, you probably have an affinity for higher temperature normally, so keep pushing.

Yeah I'm up to 530* so far it taste good, I'm using Sigelei 150w TC so I'll keep it there for now. My only concern is that the tank is getting no quite warm so I gave it a break for now but that's probably because of the high temp I'm in

 

[Margucci]

As a general rule of thumb you want to increase the wattage (or Jules) until you get the initial punch you want and then increase the temperature for the sustained vape. However, if the temp control kicks in immediately that means you need to raise the temp or lower the power.

the tank is getting warm because thats normal. it shouldnt get HOT but warm is ok. remember you are vaping at a very low resistance. there will be heat. as i said, dont be afraid to turn up the heat. nothing you have will be damaged going up to 600*.

what wattage are you set at in temp control mode?

 

[GeorgeS]

Ok here's the deal, I hate a cold vape and I am not sold with this temperature control. I'm using a UWell Crown tank and with the 0.15 ohm Ni200 coil I tried everything, EVERYTHING. I'm used to vape at 70w big clouds and the warm vape suits me well. When I try TC it's like I'm breathing air.

Think of it, your used to pumping 70W into possibly some serious mass of coil and surface area, I don't think the current generation of TC mods or maybe working with Ni200 coils might not be a good fit for you.

Ni200 has to low of a resistance to build up much coil mass. An Atlantis2 or Trition 'VaporShark' Ni200 coil can be easily driven with 20-30W (20-30J in YiHi speak), over driving it with more power in TC mode will just heat the coil up to the set point in a fraction of a second less.

I'm currently vaping on a TSV4 with a single 28AWG Ni200 0.17ohm coil on the RBA deck with only 30W of power. With the crazy amount of air flow available, the TSV4 easily outperforms the Atlantis2 or Trition and with the enormous RBA, much larger builds can be had.

You might have better performance with the Ti1, SS or some of the other wire types that can be TC'ed with some of the more modern mod's or firmware updates. If you are wanting a warmer vape you might want to close down the airflow a bit (or a bunch) and push the temperature to 500F or above. (or much higher than what you've been using.)

TC might not be a good fit for that are used to pushing large clouds with high power rigs.

 

[sd3614]

Ok here's the deal, I hate a cold vape and I am not sold with this temperature control. I'm using a UWell Crown tank and with the 0.15 ohm Ni200 coil I tried everything, EVERYTHING. I'm used to vape at 70w big clouds and the warm vape suits me well. When I try TC it's like I'm breathing air. I'm also vaping a 6mg juice because I had a slip so I'm trying to up my nic level so I don't crave cigs when I'm stressed or whatever.

I have a triton coil in my other tank and it has a TC coil in it and I haven't touched it much. Any suggestions on a setting for safe vape? Like I was up to 500 degrees on 50 joules and the vape was warmer but I didn't get the throat hit like I'm used to. Maybe I'm too old school for this lol. Any help will be much appreciated!

Ps. Sorry for being a bit pissy but after investing in this TC and hearing everything is so perfect and it's the new big thing... Maybe I'm doing something wrong, maybe I should get a higher nic lever or go with something with more pg in it? I don't know I've tried so many things I'm at my ends here. I have a 90/10 and 70/30 vg/pg blends if that helps

I understand EXACTLY where you are at. I get a great vape off of my Crown Ni .15 on my Hohm Wrecker.

It have it set at 620-650 degrees (it can go to 700F) and 105-120 watts (it can go to 151 in TC mode). The mod hits the coil with 150 watts for a split second to get it to temperature. It a "DNA world" folks call this a "pre-heat punch" (see more @ www.hohmtech.com). This device gives you some of these advanced features without getting too technical with needing PC software.

With this device I am starting to enjoy TC more. It is not perfect, you have to shop around for a good price and it only supports Ni, but it does what it does better than most devices "similar to it".

Other than this, a Sigelei 150TC cranked up should do well also. The IPV3 Li is awesome, but too weak on Ni coils.

Good luck @ one P.S.

A Crown .25 coil @ 70 watts is a pretty darn good vape and does not get hot. Most people seeking TC could not ask for much more on temp, flavor and vapor. To me a "warm vape" is a Crown .25 @105 or a TFV4 Quad coil @120 watts.

 

[ShowerHead]

Ok here's the deal, I hate a cold vape and I am not sold with this temperature control. I'm using a UWell Crown tank and with the 0.15 ohm Ni200 coil I tried everything, EVERYTHING. I'm used to vape at 70w big clouds and the warm vape suits me well. When I try TC it's like I'm breathing air. I'm also vaping a 6mg juice because I had a slip so I'm trying to up my nic level so I don't crave cigs when I'm stressed or whatever.

I find that with my SX Mini M using the SS Crown coils and 40PG/60VG gives me a good vape at 25J 200C.
You might want to try both the SS and the different ratios for the juice. If you can't use SS on your Sig, try Ti. I was never real pleased with any Ni coils I tried on different mods.

 

[Dylang919]

I know this is an older thread, bit I use the ni200 crown coil on my dna 200 and it works quite well. The last coil read at .19 so I was vaping it at 440 f at 40 watts. I just change it out today and this one reads .16. For the same vape I now have it set at 470 f at 41.8 watts. Does not hit temp protected and vapes fantastic. I don't pay attention to the numbers on the screen anymore, I just set it where I think it vapes best at. Sometimes it's been over 500 degrees.