TFA - Key Lime - Anyone Else w/ Rancid Taste Issues?

[Jonathan Tittle]

I've bought 2 10ml vials of TFA Key Lime from WizardLabs over the past month as I grab samples here and there to test out new juice blends. It smelled a little off from the vial, but I didn't think too much about it and proceeded to mix 3 10ml juice with it. One was just key lime, one key lime pie and another a fruit blend. The average key lime to blend ratio was about 8-10% so it wouldn't be too strong.

Fast-Forward a month later and I break out the Key Lime juice to sample and see how well it's doing. The first vape was worse than the first time I smelled the flavoring. It had an awful and rancid taste to it and I couldn't get past 1-2 vapes before feeling as if I would be sick if I continued, so I stopped.

Thinking it was a fluke, I broke out the key lime pie which was just a basic mix of Key Lime & Graham Cracker from FlavorWest. It too has a horrid taste and the graham cracker, which is normally very potent, seems to have just disappeared leaving that god-awful taste of key lime.

Due to the first 2, I didn't try the third, but instead, I looked at the label to see what all was in the flavoring. Well, PG & Alcohol can be excluded as neither of those have been an issue in any blend. It has natural and artificial flavoring, like 99% of the other flavors in the market, so nothing bad there. Then it hit me: Vitamin E.


Key Limes naturally have Vitamin C, not E, so it looks like Vitamin E is an additive for some strange reason. I don't know if it's an oil, but my guess would be yes as I've been around rancid oils used for massage therapy and the vape was about as close as it gets.


Anyone else tried the Key Lime from TFA? I doubt this is something WizardLabs added during re-packaging, but it blows my mind.

 

[Aurora-Oblivion]

I have a 4ml sampler of this from Wiz, but haven't vaped any of it yet. I just smelled it though, and it smells OK to me. Not sure when I received it though, so no help here other than to say mine smells normal to me (Like a bright Key Lime).

As for the Vitamin E, not sure why that's in there either, but TFA is the one that adds it not Wizard.

So it must add to the flavor, it's in the TFA Mt Dew as well?
http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-6864-key-lime-flavor.aspx
http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-6691-mtn-dew-type-flavor.aspx

 

[keelalagirl55]

Not sure if this is the reason or not, but Vitamin E is a natural preservative....so if it has natural flavors, it may be acting as a preservative. Again, this is just an assumption on my part.

 

[Jonathan Tittle]

Not sure if this is the reason or not, but Vitamin E is a natural preservative....so if it has natural flavors, it may be acting as a preservative. Again, this is just an assumption on my part.

I thought about that too, but if it's not the Vitamin E, there's something strange going on as I've not had any issues with TFA and I have about 40 other bottles sitting here, all of which have been sampled.

There's plenty of flavors I don't like, but not because they taste a little "funky", it's just because they're not my cup of tea. This specific flavor, well...there's just something a little off. It really does have that rancid taste to it, and beyond that I can't describe it.

 

[keelalagirl55]

I thought about that too, but if it's not the Vitamin E, there's something strange going on as I've not had any issues with TFA and I have about 40 other bottles sitting here, all of which have been sampled.

There's plenty of flavors I don't like, but not because they taste a little "funky", it's just because they're not my cup of tea. This specific flavor, well...there's just something a little off. It really does have that rancid taste to it, and beyond that I can't describe it.

I'd contact Linda and ask her about it (and ya might as well just call her, cause if you fill out the form, she's just gonna call ya anyway ).

While I love key lime pie, I've never attempted vaping it so I don't have any to compare. It could be the Vitamin E or just a bad batch. I was just speculating as to why Vit E would be in some of her flavorings. I know that is what I use as a preservative in my dog treats

 

[Jonathan Tittle]

I had actually tried contacting them about stock levels before and never heard back from them. It's probably been about a month or so as of today, so that kind of deterred me from ever contacting them again . They get orders out, their DIY supplies are top notch, but that one lack of communication made me stick to ordering over getting in touch.

That said, I'll give it a another shot . Hopefully it's a bad batch, but I'm not really up for testing out another as my stomach can't handle much more of that horrible taste, so maybe we can try something else that I've not yet ordered. I'll be more than happy to send her the others back for her to test - no issues there.

 

[keelalagirl55]

That is very odd. I always forget that she calls when contacted through the site, till the phone rings I happened to recall this time cause I just spoke with her last week. Sure hope you have a better experience this go round. It's her personal touch with her customer service that keeps me buying from her rather than a reseller.

 

[Jonathan Tittle]

I still support and use them because their pricing on product and shipping is lower than everyone else, so that one experience didn't hinder business . I'll get in touch today or tomorrow and see what I can find out.

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[Chaddy1981]

I mixed some of my key lime a week ago when I bought it with max dew and it tasted fine. Smelled like fresh squeezed limes out of the vial. Haven't tried it by itself though.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

I have not had a problem with the Key Lime and it is primarily what I vape. I got some within the same timeframe and it seems fine too. Your experience is very odd. Perhaps call them and see what they have to say? Please let us know what they say if you do.

Is there a possibility there was some residue in the bottle you steeped it in?

 

[Jonathan Tittle]

I got in touch with them and they said they'd issue a credit, but I'm not worried about $3, rather, the possibility that there may have been something wrong with the batch as the taste isn't really taste associated, it's just rancid. I even mixed up a fresh 5ml bottle to make sure it wasn't going bad in the month I left it to steep and it had the exact same flavor.

Nictoine/PG/VG and Flavor; all from Wizard Labs.


I am fanatical about being clean, so all bottles (new or used) go into a bath of boiling salt water and then a rinse bath of boiling water to flush them out. Distilled water is used over faucet as well to ensure there's no contaminants in the water supply. The pot I use for to boil the bottles isn't used for anything else; I bought it just for sterilizing.

Where possible, glass is used over plastic as many of the plastic bottles that vendors use (the almost solid clear bottles) will melt and bend with such levels of heat.

Beyond that, I stock-pile syringes for mixing and sterilize them the same way, so I don't thing the taste/flavor is coming from my end. It just tastes bad.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

I remembered later that it smelled bad in the WL bottle. Sorry about that.

I once got a defective graduated cylinder from them. Not their fault since they come in a box and they never see them. It was kind of cute and quite usable so I emailed them to let them know but clearly stated I did NOT want a replacement. I promptly got a handwritten note from John with a replacement cylinder for my defective one to keep company with and lean against. It was hilarious and made me a dedicated customer. I’m thinking your message to them just got fouled up in their expansion efforts because they do answer everything. I’m sorry your limes were messed up. I use that lime as an ADV and loving it. It would be interesting to know what messed yours up if nothing more than just out of curiosity.

 

[Spydro]

Have never tried Key Lime or Mt. Dew yet, but have the KL coming from WL (should be here Monday), and have the Dew from WL on hand that I just haven't got around to yet (I don't have recipes for either of them yet).

But I can check the ordor from the vials I guess to see if they smell OK? The Dew smells fine, not rancid.