The bf mod that should not have had this chip

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I'll also give my input as someone who pretty much only uses TC. I've been only vaping for 6 months so my experience is quite limited, but these are my findings.

Always using SS316L, flat 26GA or 26/30GA Clapton. I've been using the Voopoo Drag on TC (TCR 1450) and recently got the JAC Vapour DNA75 and the Pulse 80W on the same day (nearly 2 weeks now).

The Gene chip was always a solid TCer, never had a dry-hit (or close to) and never had a weak vape unless I set something wrong. I now find its TC performance very close to the stock DNA75, except the DNA75 is much more customizable with Escribe.

I mention "stock DNA75" because once I messed with Escribe and loaded Jacquith's SS316L profiles (V3.25 and V3.5) and fine-tuned profiles for my tanks, it's another ball game. For me, this is now TC peak performance (obviously I'd like to try a YiHi chip, Dicodes, etc). The only issue I have, is that it takes a couple of hits to power-up when coming out of sleep mode (the Drag is similar in this).

Now, for the Pulse. My rationale to buy this so early (I usually don't do this) in its product life was that:
  1. I wanted to try a Squonker+BF RDA (dripping seems like a massive PITA) combo since I started vaping, but have no interest in mechs
  2. I took an educated guess that the Vandy Chip and the Gene Chip are the same OEM hardware, with custom firmware, so I "knew" it was capable of good TC performance
  3. Size, portability, ergonomics, weight, etc
My current thoughts on the Pulse are somewhat disappointed, but this is not unusual for me when I buy so early in a product's lifecycle.

First off, I should disclaim that squonking might not be for me. While the flavor and clouds from the Wasp Nano are amazing, squonking is a hassle for an every-day-carry device for me. The 8ml bottle also largely outlives a single battery, but for me that is a non-issue as I always carry a couple of extra charged batteries.

The most aggravating issue for me yet is its resistance reading, it's all over the place. a 1.05 Ohm coil in the DNA reads cold in the Pulse anywhere from 0.88 to 1.15.

Regarding TC performance, I only slightly adjusted TCR and while the hits are strong and constant (I'm pretty sure the device is overpowering, hence the short battery), TC seems to me like a dry-hit protection only currently. And its not particularly good at that either. I wanted a regulated squonk to mitigate that particular issue and since I got more dry-hits in two weeks of this device than in 6 months with the Drag, I'm going to rate it as "Very Poor".

Like I mentioned, I guesstimate the Vandy chip to be a Gene with custom firmware. I'm on the fence whether I'll wait for firmware updates that ease my troubles or just sell it and move on. Probably keeping it for 1 update, as the device is well manufactured, lightweight and small.
 

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I have no problem with temp control on mine and I haven't changed the TCR. I'm using dual SS fused claptons at 225c and it's a great vape.

I don't usually use temp control but thought I'd try it when I got this mod a few weeks ago
 

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I have no problem with temp control on mine and I haven't changed the TCR. I'm using dual SS fused claptons at 225c and it's a great vape.

I don't usually use temp control but thought I'd try it when I got this mod a few weeks ago
ok .. but my can vape at 222F with TC ...... so not sure how TC work ...
i try again, even at 200F i still can vape with decent cloud .....
 
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ok .. but my can vape at 222F with TC ...... so not sure how TC work ...
i try again, even at 200F i still can vape with decent cloud .....

You shouldn't be getting any vapor at all at 200F. Are you sure you don't mean Celcius? If it is in fact pumping out vapor at 200F the Pulse TC is severely messed up.
 

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New firmware 0.0.0.6 has been published on the site.

Vandy Chip 80W_V006 | VANDY VAPE

I downloaded it, but just woke up and have to take care of the animals first. Will be trying it shortly. Typical Chinese rar file download, so probably need 7-Zip or the like. I may try it on a Win10 machine instead.

Looks like TC feature improvements, battery, GUI improvements that have been discussed (ability to remove modes you don't use, etc. They list some details at the link above, but not everything is listed as a line item.

Was originally planning on using the Cut today, but will be installing this and playing with it shortly.

OH YEAH, also looks like a version for the MAC OS is available as well. Seems like VV is going to stand behind this chip.
 

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New firmware 0.0.0.6 has been published on the site.

Vandy Chip 80W_V006 | VANDY VAPE

I downloaded it, but just woke up and have to take care of the animals first. Will be trying it shortly. Typical Chinese rar file download, so probably need 7-Zip or the like. I may try it on a Win10 machine instead.

Looks like TC feature improvements, battery, GUI improvements that have been discussed (ability to remove modes you don't use, etc. They list some details at the link above, but not everything is listed as a line item.

Was originally planning on using the Cut today, but will be installing this and playing with it shortly.

OH YEAH, also looks like a version for the MAC OS is available as well. Seems like VV is going to stand behind this chip.
I couldn't wait, had to try it. Pets are going to be hungry, lol.

The rar extracted with 7zip, contained a folder with the exe, a vcdata (firmware file), and an image file.

1) Run the exe
2) Plug in pulse to USB
3) Click Refresh List, and drop down will populate with the device
4) Select the device and click connect
5) Browse to the upgrade file (vcdata file it extracted with version 6 firmware)
6) Click the start upgrading button and the confirm dialog

When it's done, you can disconnect the Pulse.

I can verify the following so far:

1) Hard/normal mode
2) Navigation though modes, click fire 3x and then +/- button, press fire to select desired mode
3) Lock feature does indeed lock +/-, but not the fire button
4) You can now manually define the sleep time for the chip as well in number of minutes. When in the 'configure' option, go to SL, and then the +/- buttons allow you to set the number of minutes. Default was 30, I turned it down to 5.

So all the features I was looking for above are in the firmware. I feel like it's the first day I got the mod, lol.

Anyone who uses TC, give it a shot and see if it's 'better'.

I'll run it for a few days and upgrade the other Pulses I have if I don't see any new issues. I don't see a way to revert it back to 0.0.0.5, since we don't have a copy of the vcdata file for that release.
 
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I'm liking the boost mode. Once you set it to 'hard', from power mode, click the fire button four times. You can then select the boost percentage, and the duration for the boost. The default boost is 130% for 0.5 seconds. Pretty cool.

Based on my vaping habits (usually chain a few and set it down for a while), I tuned the chip sleep mode down from 30 mins to 5 mins. Probably won't save a lot of battery life, but will be interesting to see.

According the the web site, it looks like they have adjusted the power output to make it more accurate as well.

I'd be really interested to see if DJLSB would do a quick review of just the new firmware updates to see what he finds with the chip accuracy, and TC.
 

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You shouldn't be getting any vapor at all at 200F. Are you sure you don't mean Celcius? If it is in fact pumping out vapor at 200F the Pulse TC is severely messed up.
I think this is F right ? i been vaping after i reply here till now ... 20180528_234756.jpg
 

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I couldn't wait, had to try it. Pets are going to be hungry, lol.

The rar extracted with 7zip, contained a folder with the exe, a vcdata (firmware file), and an image file.

1) Run the exe
2) Plug in pulse to USB
3) Click Refresh List, and drop down will populate with the device
4) Select the device and click connect
5) Browse to the upgrade file (vcdata file it extracted with version 6 firmware)
6) Click the start upgrading button and the confirm dialog

When it's done, you can disconnect the Pulse.

I can verify the following so far:

1) Hard/normal mode
2) Navigation though modes, click fire 3x and then +/- button, press fire to select desired mode
3) Lock feature does indeed lock +/-, but not the fire button
4) You can now manually define the sleep time for the chip as well in number of seconds. When in the 'configure' option, go to SL, and then the +/- buttons allow you to set the number of seconds.

So all the features I was looking for above are in the firmware. I feel like it's the first day I got the mod, lol.

Anyone who uses TC, give it a shot and see if it's 'better'.

I'll run it for a few days and upgrade the other Pulses I have if I don't see any new issues. I don't see a way to revert it back to 0.0.0.5, since we don't have a copy of the vcdata file for that release.
unbelievable i still can firing at 200F :p
 

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Anyone who uses TC, give it a shot and see if it's 'better'.

Just updated and spent 5 minutes vaping. Feels much much better. While before it was almost like a power mode with a weak dry-hit protection, now it's a much more stable vape.

I also vaped dry the Wasp nano and had no dry-hits nor cotton flavor (which happened a lot before).

I'll have to use it more but it feels much more like the Gene's TC now.
 
me using SS 304 (i think) ..... btw not familiar with TCR

Well, I see at least 2 reasons here why your TC behaves oddly :lol:

Try using a wire you are reasonably sure of what material it is. Also, find a TCR table. I think DJLSB made one somewhere.
 

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i don't see VV 80w allow me to select SS 304, 306 or any other SS grade ......
I think from any of the TC modes you are able to adjust the TCR value for that material. Not sure how many clicks of what it takes to do that. Maybe someone else knows. You would just dial in the TCR for SS 304 instead.

I noticed after using 0.0.0.6 yesterday, that it doesn't appear to me like they lowered the cell cut off value. My battery refused to fire at around 3.35v still. Same as before. I was assuming they had lowered it a bit to 'improve' the cell life. I'll check it again today once I kill the battery.

I also turned the sleep time from 30 mins to 5 mins yesterday. I started the day on a partial cell though since I wanted to test the battery cut off mentioned above. Today I will vape another battery to cut off starting with a fresh one getting out of bed. Will see today if the battery last perceptibly longer with the sleep time shortened, and possibly other changes they made.
 
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