The Billow v2!
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Do you mean now that subtanks are so much more advanced?
I've got another 100 feet of 26 gauge in the mail for $5. I can make about 200 coils from that one spool. Subtanks work well and are nice for those that don't want to build. To each their own.
The Zephyrus has an RTA deck just like the Billow v2 does but they do have subtank coils for them as well.
Yup I have two goblins that are now collecting dust since my two Billow V2's arrived. I bet the zephyrus works well but if the build quality is similar to the goblin then the billow has it beat in fit and finish.
Hmmm next time I stop in my shop I'll check them out, watched some youtube guy a few days ago who was raving about it. I always brushed it off as another RTAYup I have two goblins that are now collecting dust since my two Billow V2's arrived. I bet the zephyrus works well but if the build quality is similar to the goblin then the billow has it beat in fit and finish.
I used the zephyrus as well as most of the new tanks on the market since I work at a vape shop. I can honestly say the billow is the best in flavor and with the proper wicking and build, vapor ad well.
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Pros: 1. no plug to fill juice hole. Just unscrew the
bottom. Chimney covers the wicking so you won't mess it up. 2. Flavor is a lot better. 3. Threads are very smooth for a $30 tank. 3. Easier to wick. 4. Can't remember the juice capacity of the zephyrus but the billow holds 5 ml.
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So I got my black Billow 2 today.
I love the airflow, the juice capacity, the taste and the vaporproduction. But I still think this atty looks plain ugly. At least the other pros make up for this.
But a 10 wraps 30g Ni200 2.5mmID on it. .1 Ohms. Nice.
I love the airflow, the juice capacity, the taste and the vaporproduction. But I still think this atty looks plain ugly. At least the other pros make up for this.
But a 10 wraps 30g Ni200 2.5mmID on it. .1 Ohms. Nice.
Yeah an rta deck. It's not a true rta. Even if you like the zephyrus more, why do you say it's "advanced"? Because of top fill? I wouldn't exactly call that advanced. It's just an option. Every tank with top fill still upsets the vacuum in the tank and risks leaking. The billow v2 is a true rta with a dedicated deck. If you want to talk about subohm clearomizers yeah there are some good ones out there. But saying there's no need for rebuildable tank atomizers anymore because there are subohm clearomizers is like saying there's no need for rebuildable dripping atomizers anymore because there are tanks. Jack of all trades master of none? I get a dripper to drip, an rta to rebuild and have a tank, and a clearo if I'm lazy and want to use a mass produced coil head where the wick and wire wasn't picked or cleaned by me.
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Ahhh, got it. I always considered rebuildable tanks the same as RTA's. Obviously I'm still a bit of a newbie to the more advanced vaping. Well I know what will be on my next order list then.
I haven't used the zephyrus but I've seen a few reviews where they take it apart. The billow 2 is a solid, awesome rta period. It was built for one reason. It has just enough separate parts to make it work well and remain solid and simple. The zephyrus seems to try to do everything and not one thing significantly well. I've heard from so many: the airflow is great but the flavor suffers, the removable deck is cool but it's too tiny and the airholes are too big. The top fill makes it have like what 2 more removable parts? That's 2 more seals to lose vacuum pressure, 2 more pieces to lose, and 2 more places that can potentially leak. I had a kanger subtank mini which is still held by many as the king of subohm clearos, had an Atlantis, watched all the reviews for many others of those cookie cutter subohm tanks, but went back to dripping for the longest time. The billow 2 is the only tank out, I think, that will make me let my drippers have a break.
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No no no. You got it pretty right. An RTA is a Rebuildable Tank Atomizer.
If you are talking about the Zephyrus: This atty is a Clearomizer at first with the option to use it like an RTA by replacing the premade coils with a building deck. Like the Subtank or Delta II.
But it's still a clearomizer in the first place.
A "true" RTA is an atty which can be rebuild and nothing else. No premade coils. Like the Billow, Goblin, Cthulhu, Lemo and hundreds more.
I would call the Zephyrus one of the most advanced Vivi Nova's [emoji14]
Well, if you're a newbie I don't suggest you get a billow unless you are confident in building. Being a dual coil rta, i think it does take a more experienced builder to get it right, especially the wicking. Rtas, like rdas take a lot more experience and maintenance to get them working to the best of their ability but when you do master them, the vape is so much more satisfying than a plug in mass produced atomizer.
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I've only built single coil build so far on a subtank mini, fairly confident with wicking and coil building. Only thing I have issues with is even wraps, usually I can clean them up once they're on the deck but sometimes I have to scrap a coil all together and start over. I have an RDA on the way that I will be experimenting with dual coil builds on.
I actually think I knew exactly where you're at in your vaping journey right now because I was there once lol. Yeah, I would definitely master building duals on the rda first before attempting the billow v2. Also, I've built on dozens of rdas and think I've "mastered" the fused clapton up to 36 gauge. That's just to give you an idea of where I'm at in my journey. With that being said, mastering the wicking on the billow v2 is quite the challenge. A rebuildable is only as good as you can make it, but that's the beauty of it.
May I ask what rda you have on the way?
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Right now I have the Hellboy and the Velocity on the way, I've been mostly working with micro coils, twisted coils, and vertical coils pretty much all basic stuff. Tried my hand at the stove top just because it looked sick but I failed miserably.
I second that. Start practicing dual coils on RDA's first. You have more room.
But to be fair; IMO the Billow is one of the easier to build DC tanks.
The velocity is nice. Haven't got mine yet but it looks really easy to build on. The difficulty with the billow v2 comes with the smaller deck of an rta but mostly with the wicking. It's not simply trimming the wicks so that they just touch the deck and tucking them under the coils like in an rda. You have to trim and place them just perfectly in the tiny spaces so that they wick well but not so well so that you get leaks. Like I said, I haven't mastered it yet.
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