The difference between MyFreedomSmokes and Wordup or DIYFlavorshack

[Scaralouche]

Chris at myfreedomsmokes had opportunity to respond to this grievence in the thread in myfreedomsmokes forum but he chose not to do so. An ECF moderator closed and locked the thread.

Actions speak louder than words in this case.

It's case closed....... just like the thread.

What a shame.

i would rather he was mixing juice and shipping it out than deal with this nonsense.

 

[beckah54]

Such good advice but nobody seems to be taking it.

OP's made his point, which is his prerogative.

Just a suggestion.....

To everyone defending Chris, I'd suggest you stop with the dialogue, then this thread would slide off the page which, from your responses, would be what you'd all like to see happen.

FWIW....I've never used MFS, but I still may at some point.

 

[Thyestean]

I have never ordered from MyFreedomSmokes and no offense meant to Jeff.

Other than Jeff and Chris nobody knows exactly what happened. So to try and say everyone should boycott a company based on a post by one person, especially when there are many other good reviews about the company, is quite ridiculous IMHO. I highly doubt you would be able to find a single vendor who you can't find at least one complaint about. You really should think twice before just jumping on a single post and making a statement like the one quoted above.

Sorry, but I hold customer service in quite high regards. And you saying that I couldn't find a single vendor without one complaint is what I find to be quite ridiculous 'IMHO'. Sure, there will always be complaints. But calling the guy at home in a belligerent manner for the reasons stated? That kinda goes a bit farther then a 'received my package late' complaint...

Unacceptable. Period.

I highlighted the important part for you this time just in case you missed it

 

[Scaralouche]

Such good advice but nobody seems to be taking it.

because it is fun and entertaining while i wait for my prodigy v2 to arrive.

 

[nycityjeff]

looking at his responses to everyone who doubts or calls him on some inconsistencies shows that no amount of input is going to make him believe that posting here the way he did was wrong. the martyr thing is a simple reflex when being soundly disproven.

i do not dispute your "right" to voice your displeasure over what you perceive a bad experience that was SOLELY Chris' fault, according to you. what i do take issue with is that you yourself make a blanket statement that Chris is a rude guy. neither i nor any of my friends that i have referred him to have ever had bad experiences with him. one of them contacts him regularly via email, and my experience calling him was nothing short of proper.

so if you want to come here and post that so and so is rude, and none of us have ever seen that firsthand, then pardon us for calling you on it. what i would have done in your stead would have been to post your experience and asked if anyone else ever had that happen, and what should you do, because you heard he was great to deal with. instead, you take an accusatory stance towards a respected vendor and brook no argument that maybe there could have been a better way of handling the situation, albeit on both sides.

I SAID that he was rude to ME, which he was. You just want to play "kill the messenger". It's an old game and a tired one. A better way of handling the situation? I made a reasonable request and he lost his ******. You can stop defending him now. It happened. It didn't happen to you. It happened to me.

 

[nycityjeff]

i would rather he was mixing juice and shipping it out than deal with this nonsense.

And I would rather that he dealt with my reasonable and polite request in a professional manner, which would have taken him all of 30 seconds.

I would also rather you go about your business and refrain from crapping on me, but apparently you have plenty of time on your hands defend the indefensible.

 

[nycityjeff]

I highlighted the important part for you this time just in case you missed it

Actually you all know what happened. not just me and Chris. Unless of course you still want to call me a liar. As if I have any motivation to trash someone who was perfectly polite to me.

Really...why would I come here to complain about something I just "made-up". I told the story as it actually occurred. Notice that Chris has not responded at all. If I were him I would try to sweep this under the rug too.

 

[dreams n chains]

No one can be honestly doubting Jeff here when the only reaction Chris at myfreedomsmokes did was to try to bury the thread in the myfreedomsmokes forum then have it closed. Anyone doubting this incident happened as Jeff stated is in denial because they do not want to lose a place to buy their nicotine or doubt that their supplier may think illy of the customers. Myfreedomsmokes actions prove this.

All else is merely flaming Jeff and anyone else who questions Chris' actions at myfreedomsmokes.

Go ahead... flame on.

 

[nycityjeff]

No one can be honestly doubting Jeff here when the only reaction Chris at myfreedomsmokes did was to try to bury the thread in the myfreedomsmokes forum then have it closed. Anyone doubting this incident happened as Jeff stated is in denial because they do not want to lose a place to buy their nicotene or doubt that their supplier may think illy of the customers. Myfreedomsmokes actions prove this.

All else is merely flaming Jeff and anyone else who questions Chris' actions at myfreedomsmokes.

Go ahead... flame on.

Thank you. Well said.

 

[Thyestean]

Actually you all know what happened. not just me and Chris. Unless of course you still want to call me a liar. As if I have any motivation to trash someone who was perfectly polite to me.

Really...why would I come here to complain about something I just "made-up". I told the story as it actually occurred. Notice that Chris has not responded at all. If I were him I would try to sweep this under the rug too.

ok first.... I never called you a liar at any point in this thread. So keep that comment to the people who have. The only time I directly responded to you at any point in this thread, before now, was when I thought you may have missed the point of my first post.

The point of my posts to "IAMREALITY" was exactly what I said they were and that was to point out that calling for a boycott of a company based on one side of a story of one persons experience is just foolish.

That is not saying you are a liar.

That is simply stating the obvious fact that taking one persons statement about something and then running with it without knowing for an absolute indisputable fact that it is 100% truth and the whole of the story, which is completely impossible for anyone to know without having been directly involved themselves, is a foolish thing to do.

I mean come on really... if some stranger on the street walked up to you and said "Hey man I saw your wife banging some other guy today" would you really run home and pack up and leave your wife based on that strangers statement? I'd say the answer would be obvious to anyone with common sense which is what the point of my responding to IAMREALITY was.

You may or may not be telling the truth and I really don't care which it is. I had no problem with your post because you have every right to air a grievance any way you choose and you will be judged on that just the same as you expect the person you are venting about to be judged by what you say.

However now that you decided to turn something I said that wasn't directed at you into something totally different. I will add something that I had been thinking all along which is that I think the way you went about titling and starting this thread was wrong because if you have a grievance with someone make it about that person not try and say hey these people are better. That is a topic for another thread not one where you are making a statement about a particular vendor. How good someone else is at what they do has nothing to do with whether or not this person is good at it himself.

 

[Thyestean]

No one can be honestly doubting Jeff here when the only reaction Chris at myfreedomsmokes did was to try to bury the thread in the myfreedomsmokes forum then have it closed. Anyone doubting this incident happened as Jeff stated is in denial because they do not want to lose a place to buy their nicotine or doubt that their supplier may think illy of the customers. Myfreedomsmokes actions prove this.

All else is merely flaming Jeff and anyone else who questions Chris' actions at myfreedomsmokes.

Go ahead... flame on.

I have never ordered a single thing from MyFreedomSmokes. So I would be interested to see how I am protecting my supplier.

I don't believe in anything I haven't seen with my own eyes plain and simple.

Also you should check the facts on the things you are saying before saying them

This is exactly the reason things like this turn into such a mess because everyone wants to take one side or the other instead of just using common sense and saying "hey I've never experienced that but if it did happen then sorry that it happened to you." and be done with it.

As I stated above nobody has the facts other than Jeff and Chris and the fact that Jeff types his side here and Chris doesn't proves nothing either way.

 

[scottyj]

i have ordered from mfs and dawn they both have superb products i can see where you are coming from and you have that right to fell that way . i personnaly would order from both again and plan on doing so . dawn and george are in my eyes tops they are the ones that helped me out in understanding this whole eliquid thing.i will continue to refer people to both mfs and dawn @diy .. and as far as ....omer is always right thats a load i have had customers i wouldnt want to ever deal with again for example. if you own a resturant and someone complains that there lobster didnt have a lot of meat on it and they want the meal for free but yet they ate 99% of the lobster. and complained after the fact of eating it instead of bringing it to the waitress's attention how then is the costomer right

 

[nycityjeff]

The customer is always right thats a load i have had customers i wouldnt want to ever deal with again for example. if you own a resturant and someone complains that there lobster didnt have a lot of meat on it and they want the meal for free but yet they ate 99% of the lobster. and complained after the fact of eating it instead of bringing it to the waitress's attention how then is the costomer right

But....in this case..I didn't ask for anything for free, nor make any complaints. All I did was e-mail him and ask, POLITELY, for a tracking number. That's ALL I did. And he lost his mind.

 

[Elendil]

I am closing this thread as nothing productive is coming from it.