Any one interested my want to try and contact Bill from D&B Gold as he has cartos left over from his business. I just got some old stock and they rock. Gave me a great price too. It did take him a while to get back to me, so be patient.
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I have the limit on my echos at 1.7ohm. I think that's what the original ones were that gave the echo problems. As stated, if I go to town on it, it will cause cutoff problems. Now the DCCs that were measured fresh for us by Rob from smok Tek, he measured them at around 2.1
So another test on the stealth. I got out my DCC 1.5ohm cartos that I got from V4l when they started selling tanks. These were the ones that tripped my cutoff and got us talking more about it. They worked on the stealth. No cutoff problems. Am I going to use them? Not really. I'm going to still stay above 2.0 on these. Especially in the kuwako where I may not be able to feel the battery getting warm cause I'm holding it by the bowl. Those who want to live dangerously, don't turn it back against me.
Are these real HSecho batteries? Unlike the echomizers, I'm not sure I care. Kind of like the rubberized finish.
But it's apparent to me now that we may be getting hardware from other sources. We may have to start asking our suppliers for transparency.
So another test on the stealth. I got out my DCC 1.5ohm cartos that I got from V4l when they started selling tanks. These were the ones that tripped my cutoff and got us talking more about it. They worked on the stealth. No cutoff problems. Am I going to use them? Not really. I'm going to still stay above 2.0 on these. Especially in the kuwako where I may not be able to feel the battery getting warm cause I'm holding it by the bowl. Those who want to live dangerously, don't turn it back against me.
Are these real HSecho batteries? Unlike the echomizers, I'm not sure I care. Kind of like the rubberized finish.
But it's apparent to me now that we may be getting hardware from other sources. We may have to start asking our suppliers for transparency.
I got my hard whistle tips in yesterday thanks to Txtumbleweed. They aren't as good as the ones I had from different hardware way back when but they are nice, hard whistletips that you can hold in your teeth. They bent nicely when boiled as well as opened up nicely for a wider hole in the process. One thing that helps with the bent tip is it keeps the occasional overflow that can happen from a freshly filled carto from spitting to the back of your throat or lips. I also got a 5 pack of kanger chrome 2.5 ohm cartos. Very nice- great flavor. 2 came in at 2.4 and 3 at 2.6.
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Just to add to this -- do NOT over-screw .... I destroyed a USB adapter by screwing the battery in too hard. It cracked open in my hand.
Can somebody give me a roundup of their favorite cartos for the 1300? I have been cleaning mine (the ones that I originally ordered with my starter kits) but think I'm about ready to order another tonne. ... I am not electrical-engineering-inclined, so can't wrap my head around all the talk of dual coil, single coil -- just want the best vapor/hit for the money. Echo cartos - do they come in dual coil/single coil models and if so, which would you recommend?
Just for anyone perusing the thread who isn't already a convert: I bought Echo kits back in the middle of January and have not had an analog since, after ~35 years of pack-a-day Camel menthols. There was a steep learning curve at first but I'm so glad I found this thread and the helpful veterans on it to get me up and going.
Favorite e-juices: BWB Casablanca and Vermillion River Minnesota Menthol, with some Highbrow Vapors Orange de menthe for a breakfast vape.
Just my $.02
Happy weekend, everyone!
where are you getting your kangers?
good info on the V4L tanks. good news is they sell different resistance cartos for tanks now. even better would be if we could figure out how to get a CE2 set in one of those tanks
the XL 2.0 horizontal coil I got from IKV was rocking for about 1.5 days, but now it tastes roasted.
I only used it on my echo, because I've had bad experiences with frying juice (not filler) by putting horizontals above 3.7 volts. but if 2.5 ohm horizontals burn juice at 4.2 volts, I can't see how 2.0 ohm horizontals wouldn't roast juice at 3.7 volts.
it tastes like roasted juice, to clarify, not burnt filler.
gonna ask IKV for recommendations. I was pumped because I thought it was a great find for the echo, especially with a boot leg cone.
Cyrus- I tried to send you the info you asked for. I am not computer savy and hope you got my reply. Let me know if it worked.
Kren, you don't need electrical engineering to take them apart and rebuild. That part is really easy. We will have a rebuild thread soon. Just no one has had the time to start one. I feel though the best benifit to taking them apart is the ability to burn all the gunk off the coil and wick. Need alcohol for that. I will isopropyl for you when I have a moment to see if the taste gets eliminated in the dry burn. Seems like it would, since the filler is out, so..............TBC....
The iTurbos from Vaporgirl are nice but a little fiddly so order them when you have some good echos which, of course just work. The standard places are still in effect. Northwest vapors, Cropduster901, Smok Tek, Mtn Vapor and the Vapor Girl (but I think Victoria is on vacation until after spring break. She's a teacher in "real life" with kids so she's out until whenever spring break ends)
DCC vs SC is up to you. DCC's use a lot more power and juice and provide a warmer vape. Single coils can last longer before you refill, provide a nice vape, and are easier to clean.
The iTurbos from Vaporgirl are nice but a little fiddly so order them when you have some good echos which, of course just work. The standard places are still in effect. Northwest vapors, Cropduster901, Smok Tek, Mtn Vapor and the Vapor Girl (but I think Victoria is on vacation until after spring break. She's a teacher in "real life" with kids so she's out until whenever spring break ends)
DCC vs SC is up to you. DCC's use a lot more power and juice and provide a warmer vape. Single coils can last longer before you refill, provide a nice vape, and are easier to clean.
Ok.....a shout to all the stealth users left here. I'm having issues. The battery activates really easy if I draw directly on the battery but the moment I attach hardware, it just doesn't respond. Tried all the usual....cleaning...post adjustment....checking the pinhole/airholes for obstruction the only way it does anything is if I suck with all my might. I get just a whisper of vapor.
Just curious, does the stealth still have the vent holes in the bottom plate? And if so, does it activate w/ w/o hardware if you blow on that end of battery?
I got my 1100 stealth from thevaporgirl,
I like the black rubber-ish feel to it, pretty similar to the kuwako edit: The kuwako scratches the heck out of my battery however...not a problem if I plan on using it exclusively with the kuwako...but do keep it in mind..
other than that and the light it pretty much works like all my other echo's so far. Auto works as good as my other echo's (though I have only ran Iturbo's on it so far because...well thats what I have juice in.
I like the black rubber-ish feel to it, pretty similar to the kuwako edit: The kuwako scratches the heck out of my battery however...not a problem if I plan on using it exclusively with the kuwako...but do keep it in mind..
other than that and the light it pretty much works like all my other echo's so far. Auto works as good as my other echo's (though I have only ran Iturbo's on it so far because...well thats what I have juice in.
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That's the same thing I said. I like the fact that the black matches the Kuwako better than the metallic black of my other echos. I am really careful when taking it out though. I'm happy now that I got one that was a little loose. It fits snugger on my rubberized finish. What I thought was an unlucky break getting a loose one, turned out better in the end.
This sucks dude
Did you try the brute fOrce switch reset? E.g smack it on the edge of a desk three times?
Nope. It's actually taking a charge now, even though I only used it for a short time last night. Some things I will say. All my echos have come off the charger unloaded at about 3.8 and died about 3.5. I believe along the way there is some sort or regulation to optimize because it's steady all the way until the end when I know it's about time for the charger.
However, I remembered to measure the stealth after a short time of use and it measured 4.1v. See, I used it all day yesterday and noticed it was weak about 6pm. I charged it up and it was charged in 4 hours. (maybe sooner, I didn't check, just noticed it was ready) I thought that was quick but I used it for 20 minutes and decided to save it for today, when I got up and couldn't use it. Now, after an hour on the charger, the pinhole light is out. That happens about 20 before the red light changes to green on the charger. So I'll know more soon.
Possible theory is that the charger isn't completely compatible? Maybe we need the 300mah charger for the stealth? Isn't that the one that came standard in you stealth kit, Cyrus?
However, I remembered to measure the stealth after a short time of use and it measured 4.1v. See, I used it all day yesterday and noticed it was weak about 6pm. I charged it up and it was charged in 4 hours. (maybe sooner, I didn't check, just noticed it was ready) I thought that was quick but I used it for 20 minutes and decided to save it for today, when I got up and couldn't use it. Now, after an hour on the charger, the pinhole light is out. That happens about 20 before the red light changes to green on the charger. So I'll know more soon.
Possible theory is that the charger isn't completely compatible? Maybe we need the 300mah charger for the stealth? Isn't that the one that came standard in you stealth kit, Cyrus?
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Yes it is the one that came standard
Just realized about our PM discussion, you're using the 150 mAh charger on the new Stealth. Even more interesting...
let me go measure I'll BRB
Just realized about our PM discussion, you're using the 150 mAh charger on the new Stealth. Even more interesting...
let me go measure I'll BRB
damn I can't even remember how i got it to fire the first time lol
do you suck or blow on the sealed ash end?
do you suck or blow on the sealed ash end?
Yes....you blow on the end. You have to stick the whole thing in your mouth past the pinhole. I just brought it off the charger, it fired fine. Then I measured it and it read 4.2v. Now it's not working again. So MAYBE I got moisture in the pinhole. I'm supposed to be meeting my friends out but I'm going to wait about 10 mins to see if it got wet and just needs to dry.......
wait now I'm more confused lol
you put your hole mouth on the cartomizer side and blow through it, then where do you put the leads?
you put your hole mouth on the cartomizer side and blow through it, then where do you put the leads?
I may be the only human on earth to have unlimited success with the stealth. Seems its the only luck I'm ever gonna get so I best enjoy it. If so much as a touch of anything covers the pin hole light they don't work at all though. Possibly the air hole/pin hole thing is the issue. I wonder what would happen if someone drilled a new pin hole in the end of a stealth that wasn't working. I couldn't say if this is even a possibillity, or if it is even remotely safe.
so I best enjoy it. If so much as a touch of anything covers the pin hole light they don't work at all though. Possibly the air hole/pin hole thing is the issue. I wonder what would happen if someone drilled a new pin hole in the end of a stealth that wasn't working. I couldn't say if this is even a possibillity, or if it is even remotely safe.
+1 to Los Marauder.
ok! we are in business! Seems the stealth just doesn't like that kind of treatment must have been some mouth moisture in the pinhole from trying to activate it. It's dry now...at least it's working. So here's the weird part. If I compare side by side, I can't notice a difference between my regular echo and the stealth. Seems I would notice the higher voltage. I do on my Kgo.
So....I'm off with a question for those that understand. We still don't know for certain that the regular echos are regulated although earlier in the thread, there were those that believed it was. Here's the question.....if it IS regulated could it be coming off the charger at 4.2 and the regulation has it giving a lower reading on the volt meter?
Secondary, less important question......how come our echo chargers have an output of 5v? That's very different since most chargers only charge to 4.2 or maximum output voltage of the battery.
Ok....I'm off to join my friends. I'm sporting my stealth in a kuwako with an echomizer measuring 2.8v. I had a DCC yesterday so that's why I may have gotten so much less use out of this battery. Although 8hrs of very light use still doesn't explain everything.
ok! we are in business! Seems the stealth just doesn't like that kind of treatment must have been some mouth moisture in the pinhole from trying to activate it. It's dry now...at least it's working. So here's the weird part. If I compare side by side, I can't notice a difference between my regular echo and the stealth. Seems I would notice the higher voltage. I do on my Kgo.
So....I'm off with a question for those that understand. We still don't know for certain that the regular echos are regulated although earlier in the thread, there were those that believed it was. Here's the question.....if it IS regulated could it be coming off the charger at 4.2 and the regulation has it giving a lower reading on the volt meter?
Secondary, less important question......how come our echo chargers have an output of 5v? That's very different since most chargers only charge to 4.2 or maximum output voltage of the battery.
Ok....I'm off to join my friends. I'm sporting my stealth in a kuwako with an echomizer measuring 2.8v. I had a DCC yesterday so that's why I may have gotten so much less use out of this battery. Although 8hrs of very light use still doesn't explain everything.
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