The Echo Thread

[txtumbleweed]

duh,,,never mind...I would just use a 510 atty on the echo-e battery...right? Can you suggest a good one? Sometimes my brain gets a little overloaded...lol.

If you want something to test juice for your echo I would suggest getting some 808-d cartos. They are the same design as the echo only smaller about .75ml and they would give you a better ideal what they would taste like with the echo carto. A 510 atty can taste a little different than a carto. This is where I got mine five for 9.00 with free shipping. Signature Series Blank Cartomizers - Cartomizers

 

[GMalarkey]

I got some 808 cartos and they work great. Perfect for sampling e-juice. Also an update on my Echo that went swimming, seems to be working fine. If the battery continues to hold a charge the makers of the Echo will have won me as a permanent customer until something really impressive comes along or they come out with a new model. Thanks to everyone here for their advise.

 

[jackiejunque]

Thanks Eclipse1770 and DarthVper, I poked and lifted and it seems to be charging now. Course I just got power back after 12 hours with no power! UGH I am such a whussy when it comes to being hot. Give me my cool/cold mint vapes and a/c blasting and I can be happy...........

Jackie

 

[VaporTrails]

I got some 808 cartos and they work great. Perfect for sampling e-juice. Also an update on my Echo that went swimming, seems to be working fine. If the battery continues to hold a charge the makers of the Echo will have won me as a permanent customer until something really impressive comes along or they come out with a new model. Thanks to everyone here for their advise.

Cool it's working! What did you end up doing to restore it?

 

[jackiejunque]

Poked the hole with a paper clip and for good measure lifted up on the center pin. Plugged it into the puter again and its lit! So I'm ASSuming that its charging.

 

[VaporTrails]

Poked the hole with a paper clip and for good measure lifted up on the center pin. Plugged it into the puter again and its lit! So I'm ASSuming that its charging.

I've had to do that on one of my batt's in particular. I use a paper towel to wipe any juice off those openings in the batt's from time to time, wondering if I am pushing down too hard.

Kind of had an idea today on charging these batts, as well as the EGo batt's I've been using latelly. I've had chargers and cords all over the place, so I decided to invest in a powered USB 7 port Belkin Hub. That way I can bulk charge the lot all in one convenient location at one time. The hub doesn't seem to have much of a limitation on current draw overall, I've had 5 150 mah chargers and a couple EGo chargers running at the same time without any issue. Sure cleans up my desk freeing it from wires and ac adapters all over the place. Also I can shut my PC down at night, not having to leave it on just to charge batteries.

 

[Cigarman]

Is that right? I didn't know the other 1300's are an inch longer. That's an awfully cumbersome pv! You also have to take into account the extra 1/4 inch or so for the 510 threads on the ego style batts. It's really an inefficient design that I imagine was a workaround to make it 510 compatible, and the reason the echo-e carto holds less liquid than the echo even though it's the same size.

I've been using my echo 1300 for about 5 days now and the batts have lasted me between 17:40 and 22 hrs. until they blink out. Which is plenty long for me. I have gone to using one per day and charging the other overnight and not fully discharging them. When fully discharged they charge in about 10 hrs. for me. I originally let them run till they blinked just to get an idea of how long they would last me. This spanned more than a day per battery and I had to record when I stopped vaping at night and when I started vaping in the morning just so I could time them.

From subjective experience it seems to me that the current from the echo is stronger than an ego on the echo-e, but weaker than the Riva on the echo-e. I'm thinking it might effectively be running somewhere around 3.6v. I don't have the equipment to test if that's the case, though.

I have the chrome too, and I agree it's a great looking pv. The batt lasts me a full day and I top off the carto either before bed or first thing in the morning and then again in the middle of the day and that's it for normal daily maintenance. This is by far, the easiest pv to take care of that I've ever had. And while the vapor performance and flavor isn't quite as good as my Riva on an echo-e, it is more than adequate for me and the other advantages I've already explained outweigh these minimal disadvantages. Others may prefer the extra maintenance to get the slight performance boost, but I'm enjoying not having to fiddle with my pv to keep it running.

I was just doing some testing with voltages on the echo and echo-e batts. The echo seems to be regulated right at 3.7-3.8v but I have no way of testing the auto under load.
I'm amazed that the echo-e is the hottest eGo style battery I've come across, that thing comes off the charger at 4.2v and runs the echo-e under load at 3.8-3.9v steady! That's hot. The echo-e carto is a 3.2-3.3ohm unit. I tried standard low resistance (2.0 and 2.4ohm) and the echo-e wouldn't fire or wouldn't stay fired long on them.
With the same juice, I notice a difference between the echo and echo-e, the echo-e definitely is hotter and produces more vapor. YMMV
-Rob

 

[Eclipsed1770]

Awesome pic there VaporTrails. I'm suprised they all fit given the width of the usb charger that the echo goes into. I'll have to check out the belkin. Where did you purchase it and what was the price?

 

[GMalarkey]

Cool it's working! What did you end up doing to restore it?

I boiled some water then set the carto in it till it cooked to the point I could reach in and pull it out then poured that water through it. I repeated this twice. As for the battery I let it stand on end to drain out the water for a few hours and shook it out. Then since I live in GA and it is pretty warm out her right now I set the battery on end in the direct sunlight with the carto out there too for about 6 hours. Charged the battery up and I am good to go. I think it helped that the unit was assembled when it was submerged cause it didn't seem to get to much water in there

 

[fun2btango]

I have both Echo and Echo-E, 1300 and 650 mah. I started vaping in March with KR808 and thought that was awesome. Switched over to the Echo series about a month ago and haven't touched the KR808 at all. Thought the size would bother me but all the good qualities override the size. The 650's are just perfect! The batteries on both last me forever, I've yet to have one run down on me and the cartamizers hold approximately 2.5 mil (Echo E) - 3 mil (Echo). These are amazing units! Seriously love these things! For the price I paid I was able to get 2 kits of each, manual and auto, 1300 and 650 mah. Don't have to haul around my juice, cuz I'll never run out and I don't have to carry extra batteries or chargers, because these babies last at the very least a full day! Check out the prices at this link...you'll not find better service or better prices anywhere!! I ordered Friday nite and had my kits Monday morning! You just can't beat that!! Bill at D&B jumps through hoops for his people!! No website yet, maybe that's why he has lower prices!! Check it out!!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...94316-d-b-gold-has-echo-e-cartomizers-19.html Post #183

 

[Kirwin]

Congrats on your new kits. I keep waffling between the chrome 650 & chrome 1300 auto bat Echo kits. I need to place an order soon. Maybe a pic of both units laying next to a deck of cards would give me an idea on size comparison...lol.

I have both Echo and Echo-E, 1300 and 650 mah. I started vaping in March with KR808 and thought that was awesome. Switched over to the Echo series about a month ago and haven't touched the KR808 at all. Thought the size would bother me but all the good qualities override the size. The 650's are just perfect! The batteries on both last me forever, I've yet to have one run down on me and the cartamizers hold approximately 2.5 mil (Echo E) - 3 mil (Echo). These are amazing units! Seriously love these things! For the price I paid I was able to get 2 kits of each, manual and auto, 1300 and 650 mah. Don't have to haul around my juice, cuz I'll never run out and I don't have to carry extra batteries or chargers, because these babies last at the very least a full day! Check out the prices at this link...you'll not find better service or better prices anywhere!! I ordered Friday nite and had my kits Monday morning! You just can't beat that!! Bill at D&B jumps through hoops for his people!! No website yet, maybe that's why he has lower prices!! Check it out!!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...94316-d-b-gold-has-echo-e-cartomizers-19.html Post #183

 

[DarthVper]

I got some 808 cartos and they work great. Perfect for sampling e-juice. Also an update on my Echo that went swimming, seems to be working fine. If the battery continues to hold a charge the makers of the Echo will have won me as a permanent customer until something really impressive comes along or they come out with a new model. Thanks to everyone here for their advise.

For 808 cartos, I recommend the low resistance ones, they are more akin to an echo carto. Sure they are vertical coil but I'm not seeing a problem / difference in my use, and they are just for taste-testing anyhow. About a dollar more per pack, not an issue.

Glad to hear your battery is feeling better now One of mine just quit yesterday and I'll have to experiment with it to see what's going on, but I suspect some juice got in it.

You can get 510 to 901 adapters here for 4.00 with free shipping. Ecig Adapters
You can also dry burn your Echo by blowing in the battery end and looking in a mirror to see the coil if you don't want to buy a manual battery.

True, however the LED end of the echo battery is designed not to allow air to flow through it. That's what the big white stopper is (which holds the microphone diaphram) in my pictures I posted. Yes there are tiny slits in the endcap but they are irrelevant. On a side note if you want to take the endcap off, don't use the slits to pry it off, the snap-in pegs are located between the 4 slits around the cap. You'd end up cracking the plastic right quick

 

[txtumbleweed]

You can just stick the battery in your mouth and blow. It activates the coil without taking anything off. It is the pressure that activates it not actual air just to make it clear.

 

[Cigarman]

I get the condensation too, but like you said it's easy to just blow it out. I also stick the twisted corner of a paper towel in there after I blow it out to get any remaining liquid.

Q-tip work great for this too!

 

[Cigarman]

You can just stick the battery in your mouth and blow. It activates the coil without taking anything off. It is the pressure that activates it not actual air just to make it clear.

Actually Tx, if you blow it won't fire, but suck just a little and it will. Try blowing firmly on it and you'll notice it come on and stays on till it times out after you quit blowing on it... just checked it out. It has a pressure sensor in there, not a microphone (sorry Darth).

So which do you guys like better so far? Echo or echo-e?

 

[fun2btango]

Congrats on your new kits. I keep waffling between the chrome 650 & chrome 1300 auto bat Echo kits. I need to place an order soon. Maybe a pic of both units laying next to a deck of cards would give me an idea on size comparison...lol.

I think I can show you pics...if you can get black 650 manual from him that's awesome...I have the chromes and love them too...the auto is great...but I'm a manual person!

 

[fun2btango]

Congrats on your new kits. I keep waffling between the chrome 650 & chrome 1300 auto bat Echo kits. I need to place an order soon. Maybe a pic of both units laying next to a deck of cards would give me an idea on size comparison...lol.

Maybe if you sweet talk him he'll let you mix and match! At his prices I would get a 1300 auto kit and a 650 manual!

 

[txtumbleweed]

Actually Tx, if you blow it won't fire, but suck just a little and it will. Try blowing firmly on it and you'll notice it come on and stays on till it times out after you quit blowing on it... just checked it out. It has a pressure sensor in there, not a microphone (sorry Darth).

So which do you guys like better so far? Echo or echo-e?

I'm talking about blowing on the led end of the battery so you can look in the mirror to see the coil while dry burning. You are correct it is the pressure that does it.
I like the Echo myself because of the auto battery and the cartos hold more juice. I use the e-cartos with my ego some but not often.

 

[DarthVper]

Actually Tx, if you blow it won't fire, but suck just a little and it will. Try blowing firmly on it and you'll notice it come on and stays on till it times out after you quit blowing on it... just checked it out. It has a pressure sensor in there, not a microphone (sorry Darth).

So which do you guys like better so far? Echo or echo-e?

Hey no worries! Here I thought a microphone diaphragm is a pressure sensor! Probably since microphones (or more specifically, the microphone diaphragms) react to sound waves to produce varying voltages of electrical signal and as it turns out, sound waves are actually changes in air pressure. I however didn't realize that the diaphragm in the echo battery is not a microphone diaphragm, but upon further investigation it seems like it's probably just a regular diaphragm with a thin cover like you would see on a very small microphone. I did some wiki research to see what the difference might be.

 

[fun2btango]

Hope you got your orders in! Did you get the automatics? Did you know D&B now has a website? Not complicated and not a bunch of stuff to sift through!!

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Congrats on your new kits. I keep waffling between the chrome 650 & chrome 1300 auto bat Echo kits. I need to place an order soon. Maybe a pic of both units laying next to a deck of cards would give me an idea on size comparison...lol.