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txtumbleweed

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i finally got my echo-e cartos which are the first cartos i've ever tried. filled it up, let it sit and vaped....WOW. I used a juice that i didn't really like and it made it taste better :O I couldn't believe it. on my 510-t and ego-t type a, the taste of the juice was really heavy feeling and just didn't taste good but with the carto, it was a much cleaner taste and i could really enjoy the juice. I used the liberty flights turkish & usa (pg) mixed with vg to make it thicker. Vapor isn't as thick as the ego-t but comparable to the 510-t. the flavor is just as much as the 510-t but cleaner. It's just a first impression and dont know yet how much mileage i'll get from it but after about a month of usage, we'll see how my impression changes...or stays :)

thx txtumbleweed for making me want these cartos so bad :D

I'm glad they are working for you. I haven't used the e-cartos much being as I like the echo auto so well and just got tired of pushing buttons 1,000 times a day. lol They did work well on my ego when I tested them though.
 

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so far been vaping from 4:30 pm till 4 AM and i'm noticing that it is VERY consistent. the draw is airy but i kind of dont mind it so much. it's so interesting because i was vaping so hard that i got headaches and i noticed NO change in flavor level and vapor. it's truly awesome. I did vape with my ego-t for a couple toots every once in a while but i found myself going back to the echo-e mainly because I can toot however i please (long and slow/fast and short/fast and long) and not have to worry about flooding the carto and it'll bring the same vape. The only thing i'm looking for now is how long the carto will last. If it can get past a week without clogging or a change in vape, these will be my permanent vape arsenal as the T stuff has not lasted past a week without some sort of clogging or change in vape performance. I can't wait till i get my next paycheck as i will be buying like 10 from bill and a LOT of PG, VG, and flavoring to last at least a month. I already feel all giddy inside just thinking about it :D
 

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Careful with the E-power, it's a nice design but the switches have a cut off, at least on mine they do and it is a bad design how they have the cutoff set up in my opinion, it is to dam short of a time and the light starts blinking, I wished they had an on/off switch instead of the cutoff, would make much better sense to me.

I have not had that experience. In fact, after reading your post, I tested the switch to see how long it would function before the cut off activated. I shut it off myself at 10 seconds. Didn't let it go any longer because I have never taken a pull any longer than about 8 secs. I am very pleased with the switch as well. At least so far.
 

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Yes I've found that they tend to work better (read: as they are intended to work) after a good cleaning. Perhaps the filler doesn't expand inside the large end of the tube as they should initially, or there's some kind of chemical residue left in them from the 'factory', or maybe just the moisture of a complete cleaning primes the filler better. :shrug:



Much like there's not much difference between colored pencils and crayons. :blink:

Mn-puffer:

My cleaning advice:

I. disassembly
The way to clean them is first get they carto wet - pour some water over it just to get the filler moist. Then take some tweezers and gently pull the filler out. The filler being wet is important because dry it will pull apart some.
II. cleaning
Soak the empty cartridge in warm water, or for advanced cleaning use some pga or an ultrasonic cleaner (although I don't do these things). Then unwrap the filler, notice there's a tinier, thinner cloth at the center (don't lose this :p ). Wash the fillers thoroughly with some hot water and soap (I suppose there's good kinds and not-so-good kinds to use, but hey, ymmv). Rinse thoroughly being careful not to stretch the bigger filler very much, because it will warp if you're monkey pawing it. It's an excellent idea to give it a distilled water rinse down after this, otherwise you will taste icky faucet minerals for a good while. Dry by pressing between two paper towels, or placing on hard surface and pressing with paper towels, or using a blow drier (be cautious of flying fillers!). Rinse out the cartridge, give it a distilled water rinse, and blow it out from both ends. Then use a blow drier or let sit upside down overnight.
III. re-assembly
Insert a drinking straw over the cartridge straw. A McDonald's red straw is easy to find and only requires a slight enlargening on the end with a pen/tweezers/whatever to fit. Other straws that would fit all the way down are preferable, but I don't have any. Wrap the filler around the straw semi-tightly being certain to keep the mini rectangular cloth-like filler as it was originally (long-wise vertically against the cartridge's straw) and gently twist down into the cartridge until the top is flush. Use tweezers/whatever to push the rest of the way down into the cartridge until it stops. Hold the filler down with the tweezers/whatever and gently twist the drinking straw out of the cartridge. Gently pack down filler a little more, and you are done :)

I'm thinking of doing an illustrated version of this sometime, if anyone thinks it would be helpful.

I would love to see an illustrated version!! Been looking for a cleaning method that didn't involve vodka or alcohol.
 

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Thanks to Unmatter. I'll try using the paperclip. I was really hoping there was some way to revive them.


I flooded 2 echo battries (at once!) A while back and decided to perform surgery. The end with the threads is not the problem. The juice actually seeps in between the battery cell and the (loosely wrapped) plastic around it. Also the led end has all the circuitry and once that gets soaked it's a bad day. I did manage to dry mine out and even the microphone diaphram (at the led end, its what detects you puffing to close the circuit and activate). HOWEVER, the wires are so cheaply soddered they detach at the slightest tug, and the wires are very short. I'm no soldering man so it was the trashcan for those :(

To clarify, the battery would work again if I held the wires where they should connect. I ought to have taken pics for everyone :blush:
 

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Alcohol bath? I've heard of this working before but have no first hand knowledge.

Actually this is worth a try. This technique is used on aircraft electronics ($$$) after spending unexpected time in the river. Long alcohol soak followed by a long dry-out. They key is eliminating all the H2O.

JJ :)
 

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Actually this is worth a try. This technique is used on aircraft electronics ($$$) after spending unexpected time in the river. Long alcohol soak followed by a long dry-out. They key is eliminating all the H2O.

JJ :)

This should work well, I would also try putting it in an oven on the rack at the lowest "keep warm" setting for a few hours.
 

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Oh hey it turns out I did take pics of my echo battery surgery. Hmm. Anyways here's some good ones:



EDIT: I should mention that in that first picture, the orientation is backwards. The end with the white material and small black oval (microphone diaphram) is the LED end of the battery. The back of the mic is the circuitry and the actual blue led, which I did not get a good picture of sadly. I really don't remember taking them at all so... it's all gravy imo....

Also, the yellowish color on these is actually eliquid that is trapped against the battery cell under the plastic that is wrapped around it.
 
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Oh hey it turns out I did take pics of my echo battery surgery. Hmm. Anyways here's some good ones:



EDIT: I should mention that in that first picture, the orientation is backwards. The end with the white material and small black oval (microphone diaphram) is the LED end of the battery. The back of the mic is the circuitry and the actual blue led, which I did not get a good picture of sadly. I really don't remember taking them at all so... it's all gravy imo....

Also, the yellowish color on these is actually eliquid that is trapped against the battery cell under the plastic that is wrapped around it.

Can you read the number on the type of battery it is?
 
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