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Thanks for the supplier advice. I scored an SLB Riva 650 (they say 750) for $10.95 at Electronic Cigarette Supplies & Electronic Cigarette Refills for Name-Brand Electronic Cigarettes! E-Cigs from LiteCigUSA. I like the polished steel and gold. It's gonna look nice with the black echo-e cartos. I almost opted for a kit for 34.95 but I already have chargers. I think I'm going to be happy with this setup. I now have 4 aging eGo's, a Riva and an echo 650.
Nice price on the Riva. Yeah, most Rivas say 750, but they are really 650's. I'd be interested to know what you think of it in comparison to the echo 650 on the echomizers. Is that the echo-e batt with 510 connection? A comparison of the power it puts out (vapor production and warmth/flavor), and any difference in the time they last between charges would be helpful. - thanks
I have dual coil echo e's on ego batteries now, also single coils. The echo battery I have is 801 and the cartos are 3ml DC chrome echo's.
So far, There's little difference between the two setups as far as flavor and strength. Both are great. The single coil is nice as well but a little "thinner" in strength. Sometimes I like that. The Joye eGo batteries seem higher quality than the echo's although the echo seems fine. The waffled plastic on the end feels cheap. The auto took some getting used to and is more airish. The large volume echo dc needs a syringe. Drip filling takes forever and is risky - I ruined one. The echo battery also takes a long time to charge.
What I don't know yet is if the echo-e carto's longevity is the same as the 3ml echo. I went through 1 echo-e in a week and a half which supprised me. I'm looking forward to the Riva batt since it's 4.2 off the charger. My guess is the echo is 3.7 (total guess)
I will revisit this thread after I have enough time to give you an accurate comparison.
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I am starting to thing that these echo cartos don't like my juice. I am using 65pg/35vg Bounty Hunter. May be alittle thick. Cartos take a few puffs to heat up. Maybe I will try some thinner juice. I am using the DC Echos on the auto battery.
What you describe suggests there is no juice getting to the coil. You would get just the taste of a hot coil, or if it feeds just a bit, the taste of a bit of juice on a hot coil. If you are dry-burning it, it will pop. On the first fill it doesn't hurt to really saturate them (once they are working, you want to be a bit shy of saturation). Fill a syringe with 5 ml of juice, put the threading into the bottle neck, and shoot that puppy full on all sides of the filler. Then let it drip out and sit for an hour+. Before vaping, blow the excess out out the bottom. See if that does it.
Good idea. I'll be trying that - Prime15 juice is too good to waste.
The Echo Dual Coil is one of the best cartos I have uses in all respects. However using a 3.7v Riva battery fresh of the charger at 4.17v, actually 3.77v under load it is a disappointment for me. I find it doesn't start performing well unit 4.6v under load and 5v is ideal for me on my VV PV.
I am using 100% VG with my VG based flavoring but I have tried various blends of PG, about the only difference I could find was the time it took for the wick to re-saturate under heavy vaping conditions.
Another thing is one can't try to economize on juice, as Fernand said fill it until you see it drip from the bottom then make sure it is topped off regularly to keep the packing well saturated. If the top coil starts getting dry it can be the cause of an unsatisfactory vaping experience. I find these points to be the true with all the dual coil cartos I have used, some requiring a higher voltage.
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Got my Riva battery last night and put it on the echo-e with a leo drip tip. So far I really like it. It looks amazing and vapes great. What I REALLY like is the whole setup is only $17 including the tip! It's a good vape for the buck. I love these cartomizers. It looks better than the picture.
Rob at Smoktek has Echo kits on sale today for 34.95 for the 650 and 38.95 for the 1300.
Rob at Smoktek has Echo kits on sale today for 34.95 for the 650 and 38.95 for the 1300.
Echo 650-1300mAh Complete Kit
Echo 650-1300mAh Complete Kit
I have been wanting to upgrade to a big batt model for a while now, and was originally going to go with the Leo, but expense and timing required that I make a Health Cabin run. So I got this Echo set they had on promotion which includes two 1300 batteries and five Echo cartomizers. Funny thing though: this model is a manual switch as opposed to the auto, AND it is supposedly fully 510/eGo compatible. Is this the "Echo-E" that I am getting? I would post the link to Health Cabin's promo, but I am not sure if that is allowed.
It will take a few weeks (I scrimped on the postage) to get here, and I am wondering if I should order some more carts from a US supplier in the interim. Can anyone recommend the best ones durability-wise? I am down here in Costa Rica and ordering these things and getting them here in the span of about two months is a big pain in the rear. Thank you for your input!
It will take a few weeks (I scrimped on the postage) to get here, and I am wondering if I should order some more carts from a US supplier in the interim. Can anyone recommend the best ones durability-wise? I am down here in Costa Rica and ordering these things and getting them here in the span of about two months is a big pain in the rear. Thank you for your input!
Yes, that is the echo-e, and you are allowed to post the link if you want. As far as durability, I don't think any supplier is better or worse than any others. They all get them from the same manufacturer so it's basically the luck of the draw if you get a bad one or a good one.
The Echo-E carto is a little different from the originals that were threaded 901 or something. Better to have all 510 compatible, IMHO. Unmatter is right, it's just price and luck, they are the same. There are dual coil Echo-Es that give a little more and hotter vapor, but I've had longer life out of the single coil ones.
You might also order some cheaper normal sized cartos to try different juices with. The Boge 2 ohm have incredible vapor and flavor, and you can find them as low as $6 for 5. They have under 1 ml capacity. The Kanger 2 ohm are a bottom/horizontal coil design like the Echos, I think a little more capacity than the Boges, and have a good reputation for flavor/vapor. The SmokeTech Resurrectors hold 2 ml + and have an excellent reputation, but they are below 2 ohms and if your batteries are precious you should stay at or above 2 ohms.
You might also order some cheaper normal sized cartos to try different juices with. The Boge 2 ohm have incredible vapor and flavor, and you can find them as low as $6 for 5. They have under 1 ml capacity. The Kanger 2 ohm are a bottom/horizontal coil design like the Echos, I think a little more capacity than the Boges, and have a good reputation for flavor/vapor. The SmokeTech Resurrectors hold 2 ml + and have an excellent reputation, but they are below 2 ohms and if your batteries are precious you should stay at or above 2 ohms.
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Thanks for the replies, guys (rhymed)! Here is the link to the product, and I am thinking this is going to be a cool upgrade from the Joye-510 I have been using for the last two years. I would love to know where I could get some of those Boge cartos at the price you are describing, Fernand...
ECHO Starter Kit - $39.90 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail--
ECHO Starter Kit - $39.90 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail--
GoodProphets.com - Your view into the world of vaping... is advertising them for $5.99 for a five-pack. Electronic Cigarette Supplies & Electronic Cigarette Refills for Name-Brand Electronic Cigarettes! E-Cigs from LiteCigUSA has a regular price of $6.95.
Hey thanks, man! I am originally from Ft. Lauderdale myself, nice to get an assist from the northern end of my beloved home peninsula!
One more question, if I could? Does anyone think the eGo, Riva, or even T-Rex cone could work with this device? I am all for the Boge cartos (cartos in general...been using the tea bag for two years), but the anesthetics of a 510 sized carto on the end of a big eGo sized battery looks like I am huffing on a power tool. I much prefer the continuous shape...
One more question, if I could? Does anyone think the eGo, Riva, or even T-Rex cone could work with this device? I am all for the Boge cartos (cartos in general...been using the tea bag for two years), but the anesthetics of a 510 sized carto on the end of a big eGo sized battery looks like I am huffing on a power tool. I much prefer the continuous shape...
Yeah, ugly for sure. Did you get the 650 or 1300?
The echo-e cartomizers and dual coil version work perfectly on an eGo or Riva 510. I use both. I don't know about the T-Rex. They make an eGo cone to cover the ugly but I've never tried one. All my batteries are all 650's.
The echo-e cartomizers and dual coil version work perfectly on an eGo or Riva 510. I use both. I don't know about the T-Rex. They make an eGo cone to cover the ugly but I've never tried one. All my batteries are all 650's.
I got the 1300 with 5 Echo (I guess '-E') cartos and a fancy tote bag. I guess it would stand to reason that the same threads that connect the echo carto to an eGo, would be that of the cone itself. That's good to know actually!
Joye 510 to a 1300 fat batt? Geesh, that'll be different for you. Make sure you fill with a syringe. If you drip fill, use Mohawk's instructions further back in this thread.
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