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bogs8812

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I have no problem with my atty that measures exactly to 2.0 on my meter. It fires right. It doesn't get quite the long term chain vape a cartp would get but it does get quite the workout though for the short time I use it.

Are you using an Echo or an Echo-E. I have 3 sets of Echo-E and none of them fires with 510 attys lower than 2.6-2.8 ohms.
 

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The battery is probably ok. You just need to raise the battery post a tiny bit. Just put something like a finger nail file and pry up each side just a tiny bit and then try it on the charger and I'm sure it will work.

tx, how do i do this? i tried to search on youtube but got a bunch of hits on a U.S. military unit in afghanistan. lol.
i'm assuming the battery post is the thick middle tube? this is one of the "sealed" ones, but which i mean it's an echo 1300, but the holes are not apparent on the top, no hole in the center of the tube.

ETA: OK, I've raised the center tube and nothing. And on the one USB adapter, the threading stripped when I tried to tighten it too much and the case cracked. It is trashed and I'm going to have to use pliers or something to get it off the battery.

And now my silver battery, different kit that I ordered for my hubby, is ALSO not lighting up on the charger. I'm starting to really freak out here. What the heck is up with these batteries???
 
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I don't have a sealed version and assume it is the same as all the other batteries i have. The center post on the battery is a floating post and can be moved up or down caused sometimes by battery post on charger or carto. You just need to put something sharp and thin like a knife or tiny screwdriver along side it and wiggle it up a tiny bit. You don't want to bring it up very much because you could break the connection. That might not be the problem but most likely is.
 

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Yes, tex, I did that. I managed to raise the post a tiny bit, and that didn't work. I then raised it even higher, to where it was above flush (if that makes sense). I screwed it into the USB adapter and tried it, first in the computer. No lights on the end tip (though the USB charger glowed red, as it always had). Then I slotted the USB adapter into the wall charger and put it in three different outlets. No light on the end tip, though both the USB adapter and charger were glowing their usual colors. When I removed the battery from either the USB port or the outlets, the battery flashed blue three times, which is also what it's been doing for the past few days. There is no charge left.

I unscrewed the battery and the post was back down where it was before - i.e., below the lip/rim of the battery. So obviously it made contact in order to be pushed back down.

I levered the post back up, put it back on the USB adapter, and tried to twist it on more tightly this time, and the adapter case cracked. :( I can't get the ruined adapter case off the batttery; will have to resort to pliers.

We now have two functional batteries out of four for the both of us. One is on the wall, charging normally, and I'm vaping on the other one but I'm now petrified that when I go to charge it, it also will display the same symptoms.

I just ran online and ordered four new batteries from a completely different supplier (mt vapor) but they won't be here until the weekend. I still haven't gotten a response from the original supplier, though I've written twice. Bit annoyed about that.


I am ready to switch entirely if this is normal. I am a geek and don't mind tinkering, but I cannot deal with this.
 

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Wow! All this is very strange. I'd hate to see perhaps a bad batch of batteries coming through. But all my favorite stuff has succumbed to Chinese quality control now and then and it's best for us to keep our eyes open. Can't rule out either bad batches or newbie error but it sounds like you have done nothing wrong. My echos haven't let me down yet. So far, all I've gotten were a couple of weak cartos that didn't satisfy. Now I'm afraid you may have pulled the post up too far. Have you cleaned the charger contacts too?
I feel your pain. When I was starting I had some bad hardware come repeatedly from a reputable supplier, and that's when I was using the little batteries. I wish I had something more for you.
 

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Are you using an Echo or an Echo-E. I have 3 sets of Echo-E and none of them fires with 510 attys lower than 2.6-2.8 ohms.

Sorry, I missed this post. I'm using an echo. Both Swedishfish and Hairball are seasoned vaporizers and have the echo-e. I'd talk to them.

Mattvus, anything helps.
 

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Not sure if this helps but my batts blink three times when I pull them off the charger and they are fully charged. Haven't pulled a partially charged batt off the charger to see what happens though.

Hmmm. This is puzzling, and gives me hope. Since yours is charged even though it blinks three times, I'm going to hold off on assuming the second one of mine is not working. (The first one I wrote about is definitely not working)

Until the last couple of days, mine did not blink when I took them off the charger. They only blinked three times when they were obviously done, and I could not draw on them. They lit on the charger, and the LED went out when they were charged... That's not happening anymore with the second one I suspected was broken. .... but I'm still getting action on it since I tried to charge it before I had fully drained it. I'll have to use it completely up, then charge it to see what happens.

In summary, one battery dead. Just one, at this point. Not a trend. Phew.

Other good news (thanks txtumbleweed) -- I have heard from the supplier; apparently I was writing to a sales/order mailbox that wasn't for support issues. I didn't realize that; was just replying to the e-mails I'd been exchanging back and forth about my orders...

I'm off the ledge. I was so worried yesterday that all my batteries were crapping out on me and I was going to be stuck having to smoke analogs all day. But we managed to go to dinner and a concert in NYC (90 minutes away), and I didn't increase my smoking at all (2-3 a day, down from a pack), and no batteries died, and I got to vape in the front row of the show without freaking anyone out. Back to happiness.

Thank you to all who have kept trying to help me - I'm really appreciative!
 

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I guess I missed that about it blinking three times when you take it off the charger. That is how most all of them react so that battery should be good. I'm glad the supplier was able to help you. There is a bit of a learning curve to vaping in general and each PV is a little different. We are all usually glad to help when we can and that is what makes ecf important to new vapers. I don't think I would have made it vaping without all the help I received from others on the forum. I'm heading toward my third year of vaping and that is after over 50 years of smoking. I know how important it is to stay off the cigarettes and the sooner you quit the better health you will have when you reach my age. You don't realize how bad smoking is until you start seeing your loved ones die and the quality of life for them isn't very good the last few years either. It makes me very happy to see someone succeed at quitting smoking so if I'm able to help a little I'm glad to do so.
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I'm having an odd issue: my drip protected battery is now requiring more force to activate. When it was new it only required a slow, easy draw, but now I have to inhale hard and fast or draw hard in the mouth to get any action. There's a twist - it's only the echo cartos and some are more responsive than others. My CE2s still draw easy. Is this a sign that my echo atomizers are going out? None of them have been used more than one refill.

The one requiring the hardest draw is filled with Boba's Bounty (not thinned). The first filling of BB worked awesome, but after the refill I'm getting mega difficulty getting the battery to fire.
 

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tx, i'm assuming the battery post is the thick middle tube? this is one of the "sealed" ones, but which i mean it's an echo 1300, but the holes are not apparent on the top, no hole in the center of the tube.

ETA: OK, I've raised the center tube and nothing. And on the one USB adapter, the threading stripped when I tried to tighten it too much and the case cracked. It is trashed and I'm going to have to use pliers or something to get it off the battery

Kren, One of the most useful tools a vapor can have is a volt ohm meter. With that you can determine if you are getting voltage from a battery and check atties for ohms and to see if they are functional.

I have many adapters and extenders to vape different atties on my 510 PV equipment and have had problems with many atty, bat, adapter combinations not firing. The method I found that proved where the problem was, battery or atty, was to find wire that fit the hole in the center post of the adapter, paper clip will do, and cut it approximately 1/16" longer than the center post of the adapter so that it had to make contact with the center post of the bat and atty. That particular trick plus a volt meter has solved several problems for me.

Edit: It just dawned on me that you have auto bats and the volt meter isn't going to be much help for checking your bat but the short adapter or extender with a wire will tell you if you are getting voltage to a atty.

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Bino, It sounds like it does when they need cleaning but mine usually last five to ten days before they need cleaning. I use 80-20 menthol or tobacco on mine and I've never tried thicker juices with them. I've heard the BB was very good is it Vg? Sometimes when the draw gets very hard the small air holes on the battery gets plugged and you need to take a needle and run through the hole or keep it cleaned with alcohol. This doesn't sound like your problem though but it sounds like the juice might not be compatible with them. Although I would have thought it would have been brought up before now. I'm sure someone else will chime in that has used BB or similar juices with them. I wish I could be of more help.
 
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thinking on buying some of gotvapes GotVapes VISION Stone II 5ml Tank 2.1-2.3ohms, but since these are threaded for 510 obviously wont work with my echo, so is there an adapter I can purchase to make this happen with the echo?

You can try an 808 to 510 adapter. GotVapes sells them, so you could pick one up at the same time as the tank. I use one with some 510 CE2s I got in a trade and it works fine on my Echo.
 

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thinking on buying some of gotvapes GotVapes VISION Stone II 5ml Tank 2.1-2.3ohms, but since these are threaded for 510 obviously wont work with my echo, so is there an adapter I can purchase to make this happen with the echo?
It would work with a 808D to 510 adapter. There have been a lot of leaking issues with the Vision Stone so I would hesitate to use them on my echo. I think I would pick up a 510 threaded manual if I were you. It should work though but I don't have that particular adapter or I would test it for you. It is really a nice looking tank and vapes pretty good when it is working right.
 

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I've gone thru two 13ml bottles of BB with 3 echomizers. It is very thick and takes a long time between drags to settle down to the coil. If it doesn't settle down to the coil you will get an unpleasant metallic taste. Haven't noticed that BB was anymore difficult to use than any other juice but that's just me. Filling a new echomizer with it is a real experience. Takes about 20 minutes the first time and about 10 minutes to top off if dripping from the bottle so I use a syringe with an 18g needle and that works out pretty well.
 

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It would work with a 808D to 510 adapter. There have been a lot of leaking issues with the Vision Stone so I would hesitate to use them on my echo. I think I would pick up a 510 threaded manual if I were you. It should work though but I don't have that particular adapter or I would test it for you. It is really a nice looking tank and vapes pretty good when it is working right.

got to keep better track of whats in the mail, seems I had bought some mega dual cartos for the egos . but still going to buy some adaptors, 510-808, and 808-510, just to compare difference off of echo and ego batteries.
 
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