Thanx, as always, Charlz. Will be trying this later today; ended up having a ton of stuff to do last night and did not get to try it out. (I would've screwed up on filling above the center post so it's good you wrote. LOL)
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So I've been looking more and more at vinegar as a carto cleaner. It works for my coffee pot. I started with two cartos, both used the same and rinsed until the filler was clear. I chose apple cider vinegar as it is less apt to taste bad if any is left behind. I've also read up on various home remedies that use vinegar for sinuses and such so I know vaping any trace amount left behind will be ok, maybe even good for me.
The cider vinegar was heated and another carto was left to soak in high proof vodka. The first thing I noticed was the cider vinegar got two shades darker when first pulled through the syringe. Gunk off the coil maybe? (remember the filler had been rinsed till it was white) I continued flushing gently until everything was the same color as the original cider and followed with a warm flush with distilled water. And a few dry flushes to remove as much liquid as possible.
The carto soaking in alcohol got a fresh dose of alcohol. Flushing produced no difference in color. The vodka remained perfectly clear. Although a couple of miniscule flecks were seen floating in the alcohol afterwards. A few dry flushes and now I wait. I have a fresh load on laundry going with fluffy towels so I may put the caros in a dry thick sock and tumble dry them with the laundry.
So far, I actually believe the vinegar may do a better job of cleaning coil gunk. We will see how they vape when they are dry.
edit: It suddenly dawned on me that I should measure the ohms. They are both sitting at 2.8 ohms right now so I guess I got lucky with this test.
The cider vinegar was heated and another carto was left to soak in high proof vodka. The first thing I noticed was the cider vinegar got two shades darker when first pulled through the syringe. Gunk off the coil maybe? (remember the filler had been rinsed till it was white) I continued flushing gently until everything was the same color as the original cider and followed with a warm flush with distilled water. And a few dry flushes to remove as much liquid as possible.
The carto soaking in alcohol got a fresh dose of alcohol. Flushing produced no difference in color. The vodka remained perfectly clear. Although a couple of miniscule flecks were seen floating in the alcohol afterwards. A few dry flushes and now I wait. I have a fresh load on laundry going with fluffy towels so I may put the caros in a dry thick sock and tumble dry them with the laundry.
So far, I actually believe the vinegar may do a better job of cleaning coil gunk. We will see how they vape when they are dry.
edit: It suddenly dawned on me that I should measure the ohms. They are both sitting at 2.8 ohms right now so I guess I got lucky with this test.
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I can tell you that standing over the warm vinegar vapors has worked to clear out my sinuses. Maybe it will make my juices taste better. Something to remember when I get the vaping blahs
So...my ECHO came today!! but my juices did not lol But thats giving me plenty of time to check it out and fully charge the batterys. I got the 650 and i cant believe its so small! Super pleased with its look and feel. thats all i can say right now haha.
Congrats! Just please try to avoid the temptation of vaping it while dry. 
Now get back to stalking the mailman!
Now get back to stalking the mailman!
I took the cartos out of the dryer as soon as I heard a knocking noise. Even in a thick sock pulled into a ball, they still made noise. I think the person who mentioned this method uses standard cartos without much weight to them. Guess I will be drying them the old fashioned way.
Edit: Oh, who am I kidding. I gotta know! Oven is on 250. I'm gonna bake em dry.
Edit: Oh, who am I kidding. I gotta know! Oven is on 250. I'm gonna bake em dry.
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whoa! Headache from opening the oven door. The smell of cooked vinegar fumes at this concentration is something I would highly recommend avoiding. Gonna let these air out and get to filling them sometime tomorrow. Phew....
(keep in mind I dry flushed the one pretty well. Next time....a lot more flushes with the distilled water. A LOT more.)
(keep in mind I dry flushed the one pretty well. Next time....a lot more flushes with the distilled water. A LOT more.)
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Since this appears to be an Echo thread, was wondering if any of you are echo-e users and do you have issues using other makes of 510 cartomizers?
I recently got a 510 tank, and the cartomizers with the flange don't seem to fire at all from my echo-e. I thought at first it was the flange keeping it from seating down far enough, but now I am not sure. I ordered and received some ressurector lr's with no flange, and those also do not seem to fire.
All of these work fine on my e-power pv, so it's not the cartos
Any experience with these problems? I really don't want to be forced to get more echo-e carto's to keep these from being paperweights Maybe some wierd 510>x>510 adapters or something?
Thanks
I recently got a 510 tank, and the cartomizers with the flange don't seem to fire at all from my echo-e. I thought at first it was the flange keeping it from seating down far enough, but now I am not sure. I ordered and received some ressurector lr's with no flange, and those also do not seem to fire.
All of these work fine on my e-power pv, so it's not the cartos
Any experience with these problems? I really don't want to be forced to get more echo-e carto's to keep these from being paperweights
Maybe some wierd 510>x>510 adapters or something?Thanks
I don't have an ego-e but I'm sure you need to raise the battery post just a tiny bit. This is a common problem and happens with many batteries when you use different types of cartos. You don't want to raise it too much or you can break the connection.Since this appears to be an Echo thread, was wondering if any of you are echo-e users and do you have issues using other makes of 510 cartomizers?
I recently got a 510 tank, and the cartomizers with the flange don't seem to fire at all from my echo-e. I thought at first it was the flange keeping it from seating down far enough, but now I am not sure. I ordered and received some ressurector lr's with no flange, and those also do not seem to fire.
All of these work fine on my e-power pv, so it's not the cartos
Any experience with these problems? I really don't want to be forced to get more echo-e carto's to keep these from being paperweights
Thanks
is there somewhere that explains how to do this? I didn't even think that was a possibility. I don't see any obvious way of raising it when looking at it.
I usually use my pocket knife but any sharp thin blade that can slide between the post and the wall and then pry up and then do the same on the other side. You just want to raise it a little bit and try it and if it doesn't work raise it a little more.
Inside the battery threads you will see a solid post. Sometimes this gets pushed in as thread lengths vary slightly. Take a pin or a thin metal object like a jewelers screwdriver and stick it between the threads and post and gently push it to the side, prying up a little. As little as possible. The slightest wiggle will do. Rotate the battery 90 degrees and do it again. If you pry too far, you'll separate it from the wire inside and kill the battery so again, just the slightest movement will do.
The post is made to float a little to allow for a solid connection when you screw on the cartos. You'll get used to doing this occasionally.
*oops, tumbleweed beat me to it
The post is made to float a little to allow for a solid connection when you screw on the cartos. You'll get used to doing this occasionally.
*oops, tumbleweed beat me to it
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thanks guys, i tried that and the damn thing still isnt hitting. This is going to suck having ordered 15 cartos if none of them will work on my brand new echo :/
Good thing the xpower I was replacing is still working, else i'd be vapeless! Not really sure what else to try, other than maybe getting an adapter to go 510 to 801 back to 510 or something wierd like that (assuming the adapter even seats enough to fire!)
Good thing the xpower I was replacing is still working, else i'd be vapeless! Not really sure what else to try, other than maybe getting an adapter to go 510 to 801 back to 510 or something wierd like that (assuming the adapter even seats enough to fire!)
There is also the DarthVper method. Hold the battery threaded end down, and give it a few hammer fisted knocks on a hard surface. This method also works with most cartos. Same thing. Threaded end down, give it a few knocks.
So, as I don't yet have any juice not locked in my tiny blu cartos I have had ample time to charge, inspect, play with and day dream about each and every part of my new Echo.
One thing i noticed is when i take take off the whistle tip and look inside the carto the tube in the center of the fill material is off center--so that one side of the fill is thicker than the other.
Is this the issue lulu is talking about, and does that mean thats these cartos are going to give me problems when my juice arrives (hopefully today, but prob tomorrow)?
I ordered a 5 DCs and 5 SCs in addition to the 2 SC's that came with my kit. Its like that to one extent or another in both kit SC's and in at least one of each of the 5 packs (i only opened one from each 5 pack to check out).
Little worried, please advise.
I rarely ever get a carto where the tube is perfectly centered. The real culprit is sometimes it isn't perfectly centered over the coil. Sometimes it's the manufacturing process, sometimes the coil winds up off to the side and scrunched over somehow. I think the nasty taste comes from it contacting the tube or filler as it burns. Its harder to check on DCCs but on single coils you can look down the tube in the proper light and see the coil at the bottom. Sometimes it can be fixed by taking a paper clip and sticking it up the center tube and wiggling the coil back in place and opening up the airflow.
But that's TMI. You are fine as I said; Rarely is a tube perfectly centered. You've got a great PV. Get back to stalking the mailman for your juice!
Since this appears to be an Echo thread, was wondering if any of you are echo-e users and do you have issues using other makes of 510 cartomizers?
I recently got a 510 tank, and the cartomizers with the flange don't seem to fire at all from my echo-e. I thought at first it was the flange keeping it from seating down far enough, but now I am not sure. I ordered and received some ressurector lr's with no flange, and those also do not seem to fire.
All of these work fine on my e-power pv, so it's not the cartos
Any experience with these problems? I really don't want to be forced to get more echo-e carto's to keep these from being paperweights
Thanks
The Echo-E battery won't fire anything under 2ohms, that is the problem unfortunately.
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