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Pelon45

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when you say "after disconnecting the carto, light is staying lit"; did you try sucking through the battery with the carto disconnected? try it as tell us what the led does.

Sounds like a bit of moisture got on the diaphragm that controls the airflow switch. Surface tension. If it's just a bit of condensation from a heavy vape session, it may simply evaporate on it's own. A drop of juice may get a bit sticky. Leave a bit of excess alcohol around the threads when you wipe it. The evaporation may draw the moisture out. You can also suck and blow a few time to get the diphram moving and wipe and leave the alcohol to evaporate around the threads.

Hopefully that's all it is.

ok, tried the above , battery still not working.
cart disconnected and sucking on the battery no led, but when blowing nothing happens but after stopping the led lights and eventually blinks off. obviously the battery has power, but is the airflow switch broke ? or possibly still needs to dry out ?
recommend putting battery on the radiator to help dry out ? use a hair dryer? ( will have to buy one tho) or just buy another spare battery?
 

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Just caught up with this thread, having not looked at it for a while so this post is a little "out of synch" - sorry!

For anyone who wants to try cleaning out their Echo cartos, I can thoroughly recommend using Mohawkx's excellent method for Go-Go cartos which is described in wonderful detail here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/188388-how-clean-rebuild-gogo-cartomizer.html - I would add that it really is well worth carrying out a dry-burn while you have the filler removed in order to remove the deposits which build up on the coil (only those with a non-auto battery will be able to do this), just don't forget to rinse the carto again afterwards to remove any ash.

I wasn't too sure it would work because Go-Go cartos are straight rather than tapered but have recently tried it and it works fine, just make sure to roll the outer filler back up again fairly tightly. It will fluff back out again once it is back in place. I don't possess an ultrasonic cleaner so have just skipped this and washed out the cartos under hot running water.

I have noticed that flavour in a newly-cleaned carto seems a little muted at first but this seems to recover after it has been used for a while, but to be honest also find that brand new Echos seem better after a day or so of use once they have kind of 'broken in'.
 

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ok, tried the above , battery still not working.
cart disconnected and sucking on the battery no led, but when blowing nothing happens but after stopping the led lights and eventually blinks off. obviously the battery has power, but is the airflow switch broke ? or possibly still needs to dry out ?
recommend putting battery on the radiator to help dry out ? use a hair dryer? ( will have to buy one tho) or just buy another spare battery?

Actually sounds like the switch might be broken and not just gummed. But it could be really gummed now.
At this point, I'd actually submerge the battery entirely in isopropyl for about 20 minutes, working it around. Try to ensure some alcohol actually gets into the battery this time. Take it out and let it dry for while, led up. Keep an eye on the led and follow up with the rice suggestion. If it works, it's a backup battery.
 

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So my wife asks me if there is anything I would like as a special treat from the tax refund. I told her it's for her and the kids. My wonderfull wife informs me that the family had a discussion and felt that dad deserved something special for a change. WOW! Totaly cool kids and wife. I owe them all I am. So I get to thinking, and wonderfull wifey says "Go all out. Get one of those verry volume moddles type thingies." Permission to get a vv mod! Which ever one my heart desires. Then it hits me. If thats what I realy wanted, I just would have saved up longer(much, much longer) and got one. What I love and need is the ECHO.

My wife was actualy upset, and was telling me that the family was serious about the idea, when my daughter said to her, "Dady loves his electric cigars mom, maybe he doesn't like buttons."

Wow again. I couldn't have said it better myself, while at the same time amazed that my daughter knew vv's have buttons.

Well, it looks like dad is going to stock up on Echo stuff a bit, and maybe get some extra DIY supplies.

Just as good as life gets!:2cool:
 

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I've been looking more and more at the Janty pipe attachment. Getting more and more into pipe flavored e-juice. I've said it before and I'll say it again. This PV just begs to be tooted on like a fine cigar. It's what makes this thing come alive!

Been dreaming of my own attachment. A regular pipe bowl fitted with the right diameter hole with a mirrored finish on the inside to glow slightly from the led. Yes a literal pipe dream!
 

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I've been looking more and more at the Janty pipe attachment. Getting more and more into pipe flavored e-juice. I've said it before and I'll say it again. This PV just begs to be tooted on like a fine cigar. It's what makes this thing come alive!

Been dreaming of my own attachment. A regular pipe bowl fitted with the right diameter hole with a mirrored finish on the inside to glow slightly from the led. Yes a literal pipe dream!

Now that pipe-dream sounds awesome. I think im going to put my order in for the janty tonight though.

I showed my non-vaping friend my Echo and my 510's last night. At first he went straight for the cig sized 510s, Then after an hour and the battery died he decided he would treat it like a cig and smoke it less often, after his third 510 battery died he wanted to try the echo, which i had been vaping constantly the whole time. He immediately liked it better but asked "Is there any way I can make this into a pipe?" Why yes there is my friend. I left him with 2 of my 510s and a charger, but I suspect his order will be in soon.

When i first started with my blu's I had dreamed up a foam or rubber ashtray with a big battery pack with a usb slot inside so that you could vape a cig sized pass through where ever you go and have it feel more like a cig with a place to set it down. My need for that is gone with echo, but i still might craft one someday for fun. The older people in my life really seem to like ashing their e cigs too. I spent a long time looking for a rubber ash try so they could tap it without "clinking" but never found one.
 

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SARABEE, I think maybe you are looking for a IGO.
It is manual, 808d threads, charges much faster than any echo and the hit will knock your socks ofF.
also it uses cartomizers like the echo but they hold less juice. you can use echo cartomizers on the IGO but their will be a 1/4" gap.
THEY ARE ONE AWESOME UNIT. AVAILABLE IN 650, 1100, AND 1300MAH.
Hey Bill did you get that battery I sent back to you? I'm kind of mad here, bought this kit from you both the batteries broke, and yes I was very careful about letting the juice sit in the cart for a while to make sure it didn't run into the battery. Now I'm back to the old analogs. :( Please let me know what you can do to fix this, I still have 10+ cartomizers for this thing and cant use them!
 

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I've been looking more and more at the Janty pipe attachment. Getting more and more into pipe flavored e-juice. I've said it before and I'll say it again. This PV just begs to be tooted on like a fine cigar. It's what makes this thing come alive!

Been dreaming of my own attachment. A regular pipe bowl fitted with the right diameter hole with a mirrored finish on the inside to glow slightly from the led. Yes a literal pipe dream!

I am still enjoying my Kuwako and use it 100% of the time around the house (also I never misplace my ecig with it). I am not 100% impressed with Janty's new neo line but this Kuwako works so well with the echo I will probably buy a second one, wood would be nice but this rubber plastic feel reminds me of he back of a barnes and nobles nook (also comfortable to hold). Maybe you could talk one of the wood workers into making your wood bowl.

Like you said puffing on it like a pipe or cigar really works on the Echo Auto so it is a good fit.
 

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I am still enjoying my Kuwako and use it 100% of the time around the house (also I never misplace my ecig with it). I am not 100% impressed with Janty's new neo line but this Kuwako works so well with the echo I will probably buy a second one, wood would be nice but this rubber plastic feel reminds me of he back of a barnes and nobles nook (also comfortable to hold). Maybe you could talk one of the wood workers into making your wood bowl.

Like you said puffing on it like a pipe or cigar really works on the Echo Auto so it is a good fit.

There have been a couple of less than impressed views of the neo. I almost bought the Kuwako after posting but didn't pull the trigger. I bet it will happen before the end of the week, though. Even bent a rubber tip to see if I could get a good curve. I did.
 

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Has anyone had any issues with a sore throat after smoking the Echo? I have noticed the Echo vapor is somewhat sharp when I inhale. I have to puff on the echo and slowly inhale the vapor. I can only do small draws on the Echo. I have the same problem with my 801 but it much harder to vape with.

It might have something to do with my juice. I think it is mainly PG and high nicotine. I have vaped with it for 2 or 3 weeks. Just not as much. Also I vaped more with the Echo after I got it then I have with the njoy I normally carry. Maybe I just vaped to much.

Also I just switched from days to night and am not drinking enough water. I am to new to all of this to know what it what...
 

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It's a post I repeat a lot. The echomizers do smooth out after a day or so. I had a couple posts in the beginning about a sore throat. I lowered both my PG and Nic. I'm comfortable at about 30%vg and 16mg. The wide air flow tube does a great job at delivering warm flavorful vapor. But I think a fresh cart can spit juice a little. It's an open path from the coil to your throat.

Vermillion River's Kentucky blends are great. So are Highbrow Vapors. Vermillion River's classic blend is a bit ashy and peppery but a few drops in Highbrows juice is a very good thing because I found their french pipe to be a bit too cherry. Highbrow's exotic blend also worked well to cut down the cherry sweet. Also tried Dekang's french pipe. Very old school and mild. Now they have all muddled together to one hell of a pipe vape. I like the 80/20 blend of Dekang juices from Value Vapor.

Biotene mouth spray is also a gift from heaven for easing dry mouth. water! water! water!
 

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For anyone who wants to try cleaning out their Echo cartos, I can thoroughly recommend using Mohawkx's excellent method for Go-Go cartos which is described in wonderful detail here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/188388-how-clean-rebuild-gogo-cartomizer.html - I would add that it really is well worth carrying out a dry-burn while you have the filler removed in order to remove the deposits which build up on the coil (only those with a non-auto battery will be able to do this), just don't forget to rinse the carto again afterwards to remove any ash.

That method won't work for Dual Coil carts as part of the coils and all the wires are on the outside of the tube at 1/3 and 2/3 of the distance from the bottom to the top.

Errol
 
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