The Echo Thread

[Charlz]

I prefer the singles to the double coil and horizontal coils. Doesn't really matter who. I've got good and bad from all the Kr8 vendors.

I flush them with a cheapo version of the carto cleaning kit Cartomizer/Atomizer Cleaning Kit - With 10ml Control Syringe, Luer-lock compatible w/cleaning tubes and instructions

There's a method of taking the filler out and cleaning and reinserting it that so far has been unsuccessful for me. Mainly because you need a cocktail straw that slips over the center tube and I haven't found one wide enough.

This is what I use for cleaning. Not as nice, but works You can find it in the baby care section near the pharmacy at walmart for a couple bucks. I cut the end off a carto comdom and insert it over the white adapter thingy and tape it in place with e-tape. An echomizer slips into the other end and you just flush a few times with near boiling water and follow with Devil's Springs Vodka. It's the highest proof I've found in NY.
Nasty stuff. Made in Jersey. Might as well be isopropyl.

 

[Mookie]

Great advise - thanks again.

 

[Errol]

Yes, I am now realizing I need to cut back on the PG. Too bad because I just ordered several pretty high ones. I was still trying to replicate the th of an analog by using high pg and nic. Now that I've been vaping a couple of months I am ready to cut down on both of them. Oh well.......guess I have to go order more juice! I don't even want to guess how much I've spent so far!

Thanks so much for all your help! And now to be really annoying....can I ask a couple more ?'s:

How do you rinse the carto? What cartos do you prefer? There are so many choices and it is overwhelming to figure out.

This SmokTek cleaning kit or something similar is about as good as it gets. I use boiling water but others have their own methods.
Cartomizer/Atomizer Cleaning Kit - With 10ml Control Syringe, Luer-lock compatible w/cleaning tubes and instructions

I haven't found anything better than the 808/901 DC Echo Cart but I use a VV box mod at 4.5 to 5v to get it's potential.

With a 3.7v battery I had the best luck with Boge LR single coil cartos, and the best thing is they are dirt cheap.

http://crystalclearvaping.3dcartstores.com/ has a good selection of Boge LR single coil cartos at a decent price. Have also heard good things about their "C.C.V. Mega LR 1.7 (THE RESURRECTOR)" single coil carto. They also offer free shipping.

Errol

 

[Mookie]

Thanks Errol!

 

[Goldenkobold]

I use higher VG than Charlz and prefer the dual coils as well, in fact VG never really affected though some darker juices (Vaperite cake battery for instance) does a good job of fast killing any cartomizer. I always syringe fill been doing it for over a year now I tried top dripping and syring filling a clear Ego mega dual coil once and its pretty obvious that the bottom filler material never really got really wet even when juice was pooling on top of the filler and the juice was high PG...

I learned a lot from that clear cartomizer.

 

[Mookie]

Good to know Goldenkobold. Unfortunately I am starting to like some of those sweet dark juices. As I read many times we start out trying to replicate analogs but eventually develop different tastes.

Do you use clear cartos? I've been wanting to try them but didn't know what to get.

 

[Charlz]

Clear cartos are a great novelty. Be careful with them on auto batts. Check out this thread. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/kr808d-1/270854-clearomizer-round-up-808s.html It's ongoing.

I still have basic ce2s from awhile ago. If you get one that's leaky, you can take the top seal off an drip onto the wicks. Works well. Of cource they don't look right but they are fine for around the house.

 

[StartLifeEndLife]

Nasty stuff. Made in Jersey. Might as well be isopropyl.

Maybe a dumb question but can you use isopropyl to flush the cartos? I have the smoketek kit in the mail, I have a lot of iso but no vodka at the moment.

I haven't cleaned any of my six original cartos yet but one that I just refilled has a hard draw. So I'm guessing its gonna be about time for all of them. I only plan on using two or three at a time after I clean them.

 

[Errol]

There's a method of taking the filler out and cleaning and reinserting it that so far has been unsuccessful for me. Mainly because you need a cocktail straw that slips over the center tube and I haven't found one wide enough.

Are you referring the the Echo carto Charlz? If so it is so very easy to just pop the guts out and work on them in the open, even easier to pop them back in, no straw needed.

Instruction a few pages back if missed them.

Errol

 

[StartLifeEndLife]

Cropduster and vapor kings order just came in. First impression of my first 1300 auto echo batt was wow that big! But now doesn't seem so big. Also its a "sealed" one. Looks real funny to me kinda like seeing an outie belly button when you were expecting an innie. Great size for my lanyard. Little long on my pipe. Got an adapter too. Doesn't work on the new sealed one but works great on the unsealed 650. And now all my cartos have pretty colored aluminum drip tips! I think they collect less condensation then the derlin but haven't used em long enough to really tell. I've been just using a qtip to plung the tips every so often, like a cannon. With the 1300 and 2 650s and three chargers, I shouldn't be stuck waiting for the next battery anymore! I found I can really wear down the 650s fast with a DC carto.

Last note: one of my two DCs in service cause the new battery to fire till cut off, annoying since I was hoping to use it primarily for DCs, but am thinking I'm going to stick with the SCs from now on. --I know the adapter and cut off things aren't anything new on here, just giving my observations, I love new things!

 

[txtumbleweed]

I got my Kuwako today and I really like it on my 1300. This pic is a little fuzzy.

 

[StartLifeEndLife]

Nice! I think it will grow on me with the 1300, I like the two tone with the chrome in the center, my next purchase will be a chrome because ill have to have something to one up my friend who's getting "exactly what I have."

 

[txtumbleweed]

Here it is with a 650.

 

[txtumbleweed]

I'm really liking this and it may become my main pv. I smoked a pipe for a few years so it is pretty comfortable. You definately need the hard 801 whistle tips though so you can chomp down on it.

 

[Charlz]

Much better looking on the chrome and with a longer PV. Was going to wait until Northwest vapors got more in. The 1100 seems to be the best fit for me. But the kuwako doesn't look so huge on a larger battery so I may be buying a 1300 soon. In the mean time, I made a curved mouthpiece by inserting a paperclip with the right bend into a soft whistle tip and boiling it for about five minutes. Fits perfectly but it does magnify the condensation effect.
I'm going to have to have one by St. Patty's day.


The button placement looks a little awkward on the manual too. Maybe if it was off to the side it could be pressed with the thumb while it is being cupped? Trying to imagine it on my 1100 manual. Can't see how I would push the button and cup the bowl. Is it awkward if it's not being held by the bowl?

 

[txtumbleweed]

I like a curved stem too but the straight hard plastic 801 tips works real good for chomping down on it to hold while typing. I'm liking this much better than I thought I would. It sets real nice too with the flat bottom and easy to find. lol

 

[Charlz]

Not losing my PV in a sea of black and silver parts is definitely another plus.

 

[Charlz]

ok.....done. order confirmation received. I just wish I knew why they charged me 14.59 when it's advertised as 12.99. Whatever. At least I'll have it before everyone restocks their batteries so I'll know what sized chrome echo I want.

 

[txtumbleweed]

Not losing my PV in a sea of black and silver parts is definitely another plus.

lol I know the feeling! It is still a good buy at 15.00. I know it is the principle of the thing that bothers you as it would me. It is the only decently priced item Janty sells but I think they sold it that cheap thinking everyone would buy their 29.00 650 auto.

 

[Los Marauder]

I orderd kuwaco befor reading this thread. Gladd I did. Once its in my clamshackles I'm gonna lay smack down on Janty just like charlz, untill then......., but I did get it for $12.99. Charlz, big brother is watching.