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Click on the first NCR (it's the only one that talks about what's in it) and it doesn't mention anything but Li-ion.

Rechargeable Lithium Ion OEM Batteries - Panasonic

All the manganese they list are coins. I thought "hybrid" meant that it acted like "safer chemistry" not that it's an actual blend. Just like some people call them "protected" because they do have protection but it's not the type of low drain limiting protection one normally thinks of.
My source from researching the last time this battery was discussed.

Orbtronic - Panasonic CGR18650CH With Top Button, 2250mAh IMR High Drain 18650 Battery Cell-Made in Japan
 

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I ordered an itaste mvp from fasttech last monday night & it appeared in my mailbox this monday (even though the tracking still showed it in Hong Kong lol). 7 days from Hong Kong to Rhode Island...i don't know if this was some once in a blue moon kind of luck or what, but i'm impressed.

I've placed multiple orders and they are taking like 4 days to pick and ship the stuff, slower than heck... and that's me making sure the items show as in stock. I'm not very happy about that sort of response from them.
Having said that, I ordered an MVP on a separate order all alone and it showed as shipped within an hour. I still don't have it yet though, it was only shipped 2 days ago. I'm hoping to have it next week but we will see...
 

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I don't know that CGR are the same as NCR. Click around the NCR's at Orbtronic and they only mention Li-ion.

I'm only going by RC/flashlight forums and a bad memory, plus I wasn't looking to see what the chemistry was, but I thought the NCRs mainly have heat protection and a high limit cut off.
I don't know what to think. I found one post that says says CGR is a hybrid LiNiMnCoO2. NCR is LiCO. I also found a dealer saying NCR is LiMN. An electric car forum saying NCR is completely new and proprietary.

All I really care about is if it will explode in my Vamo or not :)
 

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I don't know that CGR are the same as NCR. Click around the NCR's at Orbtronic and they only mention Li-ion.

I'm only going by RC/flashlight forums and a bad memory, plus I wasn't looking to see what the chemistry was, but I thought the NCRs mainly have heat protection and a high limit cut off.
I don't know what to think. I found one post that says says CGR is a hybrid LiNiMnCoO2. NCR is LiCO. I also found a dealer saying NCR is LiMN. An electric car forum saying NCR is completely new and proprietary.

All I really care about is if it will explode in my Vamo or not :)

NCR have a discharge rate of 6amps average and CGR have 10amp avarege rate. CGR have less capacity of MAH because the higher discharge rate, NCR have better MAH capacity, If you are using them for a regulated mod your best way is for NCR with better vape time regulated mod have a limit of 3-5amps so your good to go. For mech mod and low resistance coil you need a higher AMP rate CGR are the best for mech's.

Both NCR and CGR came unprotected an protected

In regulated mod your best choice are unprotected since the mod have their own protection and unprotected are shorter and fits better.

Im using this on my evic and svd and vape time is out of this world NCR18650A 3100mah unprotected
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1141105


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I don't know that CGR are the same as NCR. Click around the NCR's at Orbtronic and they only mention Li-ion.

I'm only going by RC/flashlight forums and a bad memory, plus I wasn't looking to see what the chemistry was, but I thought the NCRs mainly have heat protection and a high limit cut off.
I don't know what to think. I found one post that says says CGR is a hybrid LiNiMnCoO2. NCR is LiCO. I also found a dealer saying NCR is LiMN. An electric car forum saying NCR is completely new and proprietary.

All I really care about is if it will explode in my Vamo or not :)
OK, I think we're talking about two different batteries. The post I responded to linked these batteries $11.03 Panasonic CGR18650CH Rechargeable 2250mAh 3.7V 18650 Lithium Batteries 2-pack - authentic cells / 2-pack at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I had this one bookmarked on Orbtronics specifically because FT carries them.
 

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Panasonic kind of makes things confusing. The NCR18650PD is a high drain hybrid like the CGR18650CH, and are rated for 10 amps max constant currant and 18 amps max pulse. The rest of the NCRs, like the NCR18650A are protected li-ion (not hybrid/IMR).

The NCR18650PD and CGR18650CH are the only batteries I'd personally buy from FastTech for APV use.

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Oh, don't get me wrong. I have been trying like hell to tempt her into upgrading by showing her all the pics of pink and butterflies I can. I think her main issue is the size. she thinks they will be huge. I will have to explain a smaller battery/telescoping mod to her better and see if that perks her up. I really want $23.78 Empire KeCig K100-101 Mechanical Rechargeable Electronic Cigarette - gold / no battery at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping but i want to make sure its more orange than gold. Then i can buy us matching mods...she gets into that.

Has anyone bought $23.78 Empire KeCig K100-101 Mechanical Rechargeable Electronic Cigarette - gold / no battery at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping?? Is it more orange than gold like the pic???
 

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Panasonic kind of makes things confusing. The NCR18650PD is a high drain hybrid like the CGR18650CH, and are rated for 10 amps max constant currant and 18 amps max pulse. The rest of the NCRs, like the NCR18650A are protected li-ion (not hybrid/IMR).

The NCR18650PD and CGR18650CH are the only batteries I'd personally buy from FastTech for APV use.

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I can kind of understand the NCR-B but why not the NCR-A? I thought that one's specs sounded amazing and figured they could handle just about anything a properly function ecig and thinking vaper could throw at it.

Although all the NCRs may be protected in some form they're not all the kind of protection that is advertised as "protected Li-Ion". When I was trying to figure out which ones would work for a Vamo and eVic I figured out that Panasonic has both protected and unprotected using the same numbers and you have to rely on what you're told or measurements.

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I can kind of understand the NCR-B but why not the NCR-A? I thought that one's specs sounded amazing and figured they could handle just about anything a properly function ecig and thinking vaper could throw at it.

Although all the NCRs may be protected in some form they're not all the kind of protection that is advertised as "protected Li-Ion". When I was trying to figure out which ones would work for a Vamo and eVic I figured out that Panasonic has both protected and unprotected using the same numbers and you have to rely on what you're told or measurements.

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I've chosen not to use any li-ion batteries, only IMR and hybrid. While protected li-ion is often used by vapers, and is certainly much safer than unprotected li-ion, if that protection fails your left with an unprotected li-ion which can explode. I prefer to trust batteries made with a safer chemistry over protection added to a less safe chemistry that can fail. That and the IMR/hybrid batts usually have a much higher max discharge rating.

From what I understand, the NCR18650A is just another protected li-ion, though one of the better ones. The max discharge is decent, but still much less than the IMR/hybrid NCR18650PD. Safer chemistry and higher amp draw rating is more important than the stated capacity in mAh to me, and those capacity numbers can be misleading. A 3100mAh protected li-ion NCR18650A doesn't necessarily have more usable power than the IMR/hybrid 2250mAh CGR18650CH and 2900mAh NCR18650PD. Much of that stated capacity is only available when the battery is under 3.2volts, which we've already changed it out anyways.

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Received my first FastTech order yesterday. Ordered the 'INNOKIN iTaste SVD' for $37.21 Shipping Included! Ordered on the 12th and received on the 23rd so 11 days to Canada. Extremely pleased with the ''INNOKIN iTaste SVD', item was as advertised and arrived in solid and attractive packaging. Excellent product, pricing, and international shipping time. Will definitely order from FastTech again!
 

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Received my first FastTech order yesterday. Ordered the 'INNOKIN iTaste SVD' for $37.21 Shipping Included! Ordered on the 12th and received on the 23rd so 11 days to Canada. Extremely pleased with the ''INNOKIN iTaste SVD', item was as advertised and arrived in solid and attractive packaging. Excellent product, pricing, and international shipping time. Will definitely order from FastTech again!

Be sure to use the reviews option on the fasttech website so people know how it works out for you after you use it a while.
 

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Got my vape mail from FT yesterday, 12 days, not bad. Everything works great. I got:
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1368500
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1358600
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1368505
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1382500
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1391901

And some odds and ends. Everything works great, no issues, but the USB passthrough needs a LOT of amps on the input side to work. (But I knew that thanks to this thread :) )


Looks like you made some good choices,wheres your brass V3?
 
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