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[JRudey]

For a small shop there just isn't any profit in it. With risks/customs/man hours there is just no profit to be had.

There are barriers to exporting, whether it be government or other, that effectively makes it silly to export unless it large enough to cover those costs.

I have been waiting patiently for 20 years for cuban cigars to be allowed again.

Bank robber Willie Sutton allegedly gave his reason for robbing banks as: "That's where the money is." It's also the reason foreign businesses want to export to America. fasttech overcame all of those same obstacles you mentioned that overwhelms an American shop.

This has nothing to do with obstacles. It has to do with incentives. Chinese businesses see the incentive to penetrating the American market. American companies are content selling to English speaking Americans and don't need to go outside of their comfort zone. As you said regarding motivation: "effectively makes it silly to export".

 

[funkyZero]

You pretty much just made my point for me. Everything you said would apply to a company from another country (ex: FastTech) that ships to America. Only difference is that America businesses are too lazy to bother.

The difference is that if you live in the US and rip someone off, the authorities and legal system will cooperate. Many other countries will not reciprocate and their exports/duties etc are a LOT more lax and easier to deal with.
Again, it doesn't make sense to say that a business who is trying to profit would turn down the opportunity to sell to a global market. The reason is risk. Generally speaking, lazy people don't stay in business for very long.

 

[bluecat]

Bank robber Willie Sutton allegedly gave his reason for robbing banks as: "That's where the money is." It's also the reason foreign businesses want to export to America. FastTech overcame all of those same obstacles you mentioned that overwhelms an American shop.

This has nothing to do with obstacles. It has to do with incentives. Chinese businesses see the incentive to penetrating the American market. American companies are content selling to English speaking Americans and don't need to go outside of their comfort zone. As you said regarding motivation: "effectively makes it silly to export".

Fasttech is huge as well. They already had a name out prior to them stocking the vape supplies (speed cubes and flashlights), along with the supply chain and vendor issues sorted, a new business in a new industry or a smaller business still has those roadblocks.

Obstacles are only void of incentives. One way to look at it How many businesses in the US have started because of incentives from the govt? Many... how could an obstacle be an incentive you may ask... taxes... Here we have local taxes. 2.1% of gross wage to be exact.... The city lures businesses here by waiving the withholding and property tax for X amount of years. Sucks if you are already here... awesome if you aren't. That is 2,100 bucks on 100k in wages.

Their comfort zone is only one of the issues..there are many more.

 

[funkyZero]

Fasttech is huge as well. They already had a name out prior to them stocking the vape supplies (speed cubes and flashlights), along with the supply chain and vendor issues sorted, a new business in a new industry or a smaller business still has those roadblocks.

Obstacles are only void of incentives. One way to look at it How many businesses in the US have started because of incentives from the govt? Many... how could an obstacle be an incentive you may ask... taxes... Here we have local taxes. 2.1% of gross wage to be exact.... The city lures businesses here by waiving the withholding and property tax for X amount of years. Sucks if you are already here... awesome if you aren't. That is 2,100 bucks on 100k in wages.

Their comfort zone is only one of the issues..there are many more.

that's a much better approach. But to say that someone is just lazy because they are American and would turn away profit to avoid filling out a 60 second declaration form?... one that can easily be done automatically when the invoice is printed?
yea, you get by with fudging that in China. Get caught doing it multiple times in the US and guess where you end up. there's just too many obstacles that make it too risky for too little profit.

 

[WattWick]

Found a nice little thingy the other day. Not very vaping related, but sure can be. It's a battery backup that takes 1-3x 18650 batteries and has an USB output. Finally something to use my 18650s for. Should be great as a backup battery for phones, etc. Could also be nice to charge ego batteries with.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1381305

 

[Capt.shay]

that's a much better approach. But to say that someone is just lazy because they are American and would turn away profit to avoid filling out a 60 second declaration form?... one that can easily be done automatically when the invoice is printed?
yea, you get by with fudging that in China. Get caught doing it multiple times in the US and guess where you end up. there's just too many obstacles that make it too risky for too little profit.

And every one seems to be forgetting that PayPal wont touch E-cig stuff in the US so no paypal.

If it were profitable, business would do it. It is not so they don't. Pretty simple.

People who start their own business aren't "lazy". People who sit around and chat on the internet all day like me, well.........

 

[RANGERmsr]

Found a nice little thingy the other day. Not very vaping related, but sure can be. It's a battery backup that takes 1-3x 18650 batteries and has an USB output. Finally something to use my 18650s for. Should be great as a backup battery for phones, etc. Could also be nice to charge ego batteries with.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1381305

I have two of those. They work great! Makes a handy storage compartment for your 18650's as well as charging phones, ego batts. You can use a USB cable to charge it, but it just takes longer. I usually just charge the batts on my house charger then stick them back in this to carry them around.

I had to get two because my wife swiped my first one for her cell phone lol. She LOVES it!
Oh, she also likes the handy flashlight feature these have

 

[JRudey]

If it were profitable, business would do it. It is not so they don't. Pretty simple.

IBM, Coca-Cola, Caterpillar, and thousands of other American Companies thrived once they tapped the global market. It just takes some effort. I'm amazed by all of the apologists here. Shipping overseas is easy. I worked for a small company selling used computer parts that did it. The company has less than 25 employees. The company didn't look for excuses to avoid doing it.

 

[Mike.S]

And every one seems to be forgetting that PayPal wont touch E-cig stuff in the US so no paypal.

Who uses e-cigs? I use a PV.

 

[bluecat]

Who uses e-cigs? I use a PV.

I do, why?

 

[Myk]

Who uses e-cigs? I use a PV.

I use a Portable Electronic Nicotine Inhalant System.

 

[Capt.shay]

I use a Portable Electronic Nicotine Inhalant System.

To each his own I always say.

 

[Myk]

To each his own I always say.

I don't like "PV", it sounds too much like the initials for Personal Vibrator. I'm not putting one of those in my mouth.

 

[JRudey]

Who uses e-cigs? I use a PV.

... says the guy posting in the e-cigarette-forum

 

[nnote]

Found a nice little thingy the other day. Not very vaping related, but sure can be. It's a battery backup that takes 1-3x 18650 batteries and has an USB output. Finally something to use my 18650s for. Should be great as a backup battery for phones, etc. Could also be nice to charge ego batteries with.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1381305

I ordered that, considering it can charge 3 18650's and then I can take it with me for a power backup. Unfortunatly my order had gone to HK acceptance status TWICE since oct 17. I started a ticket on it yesterday, asking them to find it or ship me another. Killin me cause I also ordered an SVT and a bundle of silica in the same package...

 

[RANGERmsr]

I use a Portable Electronic Nicotine Inhalant System.

I don't like "PV", it sounds too much like the initials for Personal Vibrator. I'm not putting one of those in my mouth.

I don't know if I would want to put either of these in mine.

 

[Abstrusius]

Received today 2 packages the FT shipper resent without warning them about the new tracking numbers. Both posted on 10/18. I'm wondering if finally I'll receive the Vamo, the MVP and Ego-X9 I ordered about the same time. Hope the Customs don't grab them!

 

[funkyZero]

I just got an odd one today as well...
This order took longer than any other. Ordered on Oct 14th, delivered today.
funny thing is I checked the tracking this morning and it still said "acceptance" in HKP. Then all the sudden it's in my mailbox.
Hmph... anyway, I'll take it.

AND, it's a lot better than I expected: https://www.fasttech.com/p/1481600

I was skeptical, I figured I would get complete junk based on the FT photos.
I'm quite suprised, actually. It looks really good. I just got done cleaning it and re-coiling... hope to test it out sometime tonight. So far though based on appearances, finish, etc it looks nice.

 

[xtwosm0kesx]

I just got an odd one today as well...
This order took longer than any other. Ordered on Oct 14th, delivered today.
funny thing is I checked the tracking this morning and it still said "acceptance" in HKP. Then all the sudden it's in my mailbox.
Hmph... anyway, I'll take it.

AND, it's a lot better than I expected: https://www.fasttech.com/p/1481600

I was skeptical, I figured I would get complete junk based on the FT photos.
I'm quite suprised, actually. It looks really good. I just got done cleaning it and re-coiling... hope to test it out sometime tonight. So far though based on appearances, finish, etc it looks nice.

Glad to hear its of decent quality, those pictures really sketched me out, FT seems to consistently make their products look like crap in the pictures, when they're actually quite nice in person.

 

[Scope666]

I just got an odd one today as well...
This order took longer than any other. Ordered on Oct 14th, delivered today.
funny thing is I checked the tracking this morning and it still said "acceptance" in HKP. Then all the sudden it's in my mailbox.
Hmph... anyway, I'll take it.

AND, it's a lot better than I expected: https://www.fasttech.com/p/1481600

I was skeptical, I figured I would get complete junk based on the FT photos.
I'm quite suprised, actually. It looks really good. I just got done cleaning it and re-coiling... hope to test it out sometime tonight. So far though based on appearances, finish, etc it looks nice.

Mine came today also ... going to play with it tonight.