The FDA will NOT Ban E-cigarettes
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For this purpose I'll say nicotine is derived from tobacco;
Right, regulate the nicotine product. The nicotine product is the juice that contains nicotine. If I build myself a Personal Vaporizer and vape nothing but water where does the regulation come into play? Where does it end? On one extreme, I can fill my humidifier up with nicotine juice and vape my house. Ban humidifiers next?
I am not a lawyer but Judge Leon seems to keep his ruling understandable for the lay person. Here is a link to where you can down load it. Let me know if you agree. At the very least it will help you understand what the FDA is currently appealing.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/72514-se-vs-fda-judge-leons-ruling.html
I dont think they will ban them either..there';s money to be made.
But I am for some type of regulation concerning ejuice so that people can be informed what they are getting.
I have allergies and Iv'e found that not having that information can be a bad thing.
But I am for some type of regulation concerning ejuice so that people can be informed what they are getting.
I have allergies and Iv'e found that not having that information can be a bad thing.
About the money, they'll start taxing juice like tobacco products, regulations on juice will just be a side effect. I don't have a problem with disclosure about ingredients but I bet new regulations will shut down alot of small suppliers.
Allergies...Interesting, because that brings to mind an issue a friend had recently.
Converted a friend who smokes to vaping a few months ago and he bought an eGo. A couple of months went by and every time I talked to him he mentioned how pleased he was with the PV and giving up cigarettes.
Recently I ran into him and noticed he was smoking a cigarette. He said he had to give up vaping because of serious allergy issues every time he would vape.
Long story short: After a few minutes talking with him about variables...we got down to cartridges. Asked him when was the last time he changed cartridges. He said he never changed the cartridges because in his words "they don't wear out".
BINGO
I told him the residue liquid or batting might be contaminated. Suggested he pop in a new cartridge and see if that would solve the problem. He did. NO Allergy issues! He is now a happy camper and tosses cartridges once a week. He knows now that he could disinfect the cartridges and make his own batting etc...However, he said that the cartridges are cheap and he wasn't going to take any chances.
Food for thought
I just created a new post on this subject:
Allergic reaction to E-cigarettes: Problem Solved
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The following is my understanding based on everything I've read on this forum over the last 17 months...
There is not enough nicotine in other plants besides tobacco to make it cost-effective.
And producing synthetic nicotine is EXTREMELY expensive.
Extracting nicotine from tobacco is the only cost-effective way to do so at this time.
There is not enough nicotine in other plants besides tobacco to make it cost-effective.
And producing synthetic nicotine is EXTREMELY expensive.
Extracting nicotine from tobacco is the only cost-effective way to do so at this time.
Nobody wanted to extract oil from oil sands either due to cost and difficulty. With greater need came better technology and therefore a cost effective means of extracting the crude. Good thing there are individuals out there who don't just throw their arms up and give up when faced with challenges. There is plenty of will here among the "e-cig" community and it's growing every day. Challenges will be overcome.
Okay.....SO...can e liquid be frozen? Should we be stockpiling? Since we're not panicked that they'll be banned, can we look ahead and plan for a big bump in the expense?
I did that with cigarettes shortly before I quit (NY has been trying to put their taxes on Native American reservations and it looked like they were going to succeed). Then I had to deal with selling off my cartons of smokes. It literally took months. Not doing it again.
You might do better to stockpile 100mg nicotine solution and DIY.
I don't understand why some countries have already banned them. Other than it having nicotine and the liquid could potentially be harmful to kids or pets...what bad research is out there?
Research? Hell...governments don't have to research things 1st *cough*weaponsofmassdestruction*cough*. That's just silly.
Funny you should mention that, nowhere on my bottle of Vitamin C does it say anything about preventing vitamin C deficiency. Bummer.
Well, I am down to only 2 analogs a day now. If they ban nicotine juices, I am going to be really ......!
Simple. Most countries today are socialist. In fact, almost all. The concept by definition involves control. As Ronald Reagan once said "if freedom is lost here, it will not be seen again in our lifetime". He said this with purpose and truth. If we lose it, there are no other countries in the world to replace it.
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well really not the place for a politcal debate but we are damn near socialist as things are going here. or at least with what those in office are trying to do
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